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C/J/K League average attendance by year

C/J/K League average attendance by year

the average attendance of the five professional leagues in the three countries
Football League Style in China, Japan and South Korea:

Japan: National League has 4 levels:
J1: profesional
J2: professional
JFL: Semi-professional
Division 4: amateurish

China: National league has 4 levels:
CSL: professional
China League: professional
Division 2: Semi-professional
Division 3: amateurish

South Korea:
K1: professional
K2: enterprise league

the year when these leagues turned to be professional league
K1:1983
J1:1993
Jia-A:1994, name changed to CSL in 2004
Jia-B:1995, name changed to China League in 2004
J2:1999

Japan:

J1-League
1993 17,976
1994 19,598
1995 16,922
1996 13,353
1997 10,131
1998 11,982
1999 11,658
2000 11,065
2001 16,548
2002 16,368
2003 17,351
2004 18,965
2005 18,765

J2-league
1999 4,596
2000 6,095
2001 5,703
2002 6,842
2003 7,895
2004 7,213
2005 7,482
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China:

Jia-A and CSL
1994 16,325
1995 23,790
1996 24,300
1997 21,266
1998 21,350
1999 19,900
2000 19,900
2001 18,296
2002 14,984
2003 17,710
2004 10,053
2005 10,448

Jia-B and China League
1995 6,173
1996 9,955
1997 11,539
1998 13,610
1999 15,296
2000 15,222
2001 13,776
2002 7,733
2003 7,697
2004 6,560
2005 6,899
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Korea:
K1-League
1983 10,493
1984 4,093
1985 5,393
1986 3,500
1987 3,233
1988 3,757
1989 4,128
1990 4,211
1991 9,871
1992 11,553
1993 8,532
1994 7,152
1995 10,258
1996 10,388
1997 6,731
1998 11,780
1999 14,413
2000 10,052
2001 12,745
2002 14,600
2003 9,800
2004 11,941
2005 11,258
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Thanks for the info, greenlion

Did China have an Enterprise league before going pro? (eg. Railway workers v Police etc...)

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Thanks. Good stats
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Thanks for the info, greenlion

Did China have an Enterprise league before going pro? (eg. Railway workers v Police etc...)
before 1980, the clubs in China National League was ownd by the local Physical Culture and Sports Committee, Sports institutes,and Army sports units, those factory owned clubs was not allowed to participate in the National league, for example, there was a famouse factory club called Dalian Dockyard, which was found in 1946, could only play rigional tournaments or the national Workers Championship etc,in 1980,CFA allows foctory clubs to play national Leagues,Dalian Dockyard entered National League in 1981, then in 1983, Dalian football club founded, that is the current Dalian Shide, based on dalian dockyard.

in the middle of 1980s', CFA encourage factories and companies to sponsor those government-owned clubs,in 1984, Guangdong, Beijing,,Guangzhou and Beijing sponsored by big companies for the first time!, CCTV satrted to show Domestic league to the whole country, according to some asrticles, the match between Beijing Snowflakes and Guangdong Wanbao was really exciting, more and more clubs started their way to became a semi-pro club, in 1988, Liaoning turned to be China's first professional club, Liaoning was one of Asian's best club at that time, 1990 ACC Champions, 1991 runner-ups, 1987 third place.

in 1987, CFA tried to find a way to found a semi-pro league, that season National League division 1 signed it's first sponsor contract, Goldlion became first main sponsor of China football league.gradually more and more fans bought tickets to watch football leagues.

in 1987 the National League Division 1 was devided into two levels- Jia-A(8 teams) and Jia-B(12 teams), CFA never admit there was a semi-pro league before 1993, because of the restrict by some laws, the enterprises could only cooperate with the government in club managements. so actually we could consider it as a enterprise league though not so accurate to describe the league.

the 8 teams in 1987 Jia-A are:

National B
Liaoning Dongyao - Now Liaoning FC, became professional team in 1988
Tianjing Seagull - Now Tianjin Teda, became pro club in 1995
Shanghai Shenzhou - Name changed to Shanghai Shenhua in 1991 and became pro clubs in 1993
Shandong - Now Shandong Luneng Taishan, became pro-club in 1993
August first
Beijing Snowflakes - Name Changed to beijing Guo'an in 1992 and became pro-clubs
Guangzhou Baiyunshan - Now Guangzhou Rizhiquan, became professional club in 1992
Hubei Energy - Now Wuhan Dragon Huanghelou, became professional club in 1994

in the early 1990s, CFA allows enterprises to purchase football clubs and manage them, whether they are state-owned enterprises or private-owned companies, Dalian Hualu - the former Dalian Dockyard, was bought by a private-owned copany, Name changed to Dalian Wanda and became a professional club in 1993.

in 1992, CFA made a important decision - The China professional league will be started in 1994, the forced all the Jia-A clubs set up professional system before 1994, and for Jia-B clubs, they must realize professional structural reform before 1995. after that CFA hold a semi-pro football champions league in 1993, and finally, in 1994, first ever professional leagues in China football history started.
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thanks greenlion. You're as comprehensive as always. Have you ever thought of writing a book about Chinese football?

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Greenlion: the reason for why the attendances have decreased in China, is it because of the betting scandal that has been happening in the Chinese LEague during the last couple of years, or could be it just be the fact that the people are frustrated since China could not qualify to the World Cup?
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The question is who will publish it , I think not much english readers care Chinese soccer.
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well the reason is really intricate, but it is true both of the facts you mentioned are parts of them. here is the second part of my former post:

No doubt the Jia-A league was one of the best professional leagues of asia in 1990s', Dalian and Beijing has some impressive performances in ACC and ACWC although they didn't won any of them,the league has big attendances and attracted sposors like Marl-boro,Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Adidas, Nike, Motorola, Siemens,Hyundai,Sumsang,Canon,Nissan,Fuj i …… Star Sports shows it to the whole asia.the CFA then decided to make C-League a more professional one so in 2002 they made a decision to found the China Super League in 2004.

Compared to Jia A, the CSL is a lot more demanding on teams. The CFA and CSL commitee has imposed a range of minimum criteria to ensure professional management and administration, financial probity and a progressive youth development programme at every club. besides the regular professional league, CSL also has reserve league, U-19 League, U-17 League and U-15 League, also some cups for the young boys.

the second division, Jia B, with the new name China League, also has a new system.

The CSL and China League's goals are to promote high quality and high level competition; introduce advanced managerial concepts to the market; enforce the delivery of minimum standards of professionalism; encourage the influx of more higher quality foreign coaches and players; and gradually establish the European system for player registrations and transfers.

But the new league style faces series of big problems in 2004 season,the C-League achieve great success in the 1990s' and it became the most succesful sports league in china,but in 1998 scandals like soccer fraud, black whistle started to reveal. follow them are the irresponsible reports from the media, and the clash between the ultra fans of diffrent clubs, also riots between the fans and polices. in 2001 season, just after the china NT enterd WC, the most serious match fixed scandal in chiese football history happend, five Jia-B clubs fixed games to affect the promotion and relegation situation, they got punished by CFA, about this affair here are some articles from Sinosoc:

Changchun promoted to Jia A
Jia B shame
Changchun promotion doubt
Jia B scandal outcome

Faceing these seriously corruptions, the CFA actually perfomanced flabby. then gradually,in the season of 2004 the image of the Chinese professional league has been tarnished by episodes of match-fixing and corruption involving referees.the whole season were dominated by match boycotts and corruption scandals, the Chinese Olympics team's failure to qualify for the Athens 2004 football tournament, China National team's defeat in the Asian Cup Final and their elimination in 2006 World Cup qualifier gives the league a deathblow, the season finished with the CFA presidets' resign and the main sponsor siemens' withdraw from its sponsorship

The chaotic scene in 2004 season angered fans and caused a loss of interest in the domestic game, and there is still too many negative reporting on Chinese football in the local media.so the 2005 CSL still has low attendances.
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Wow, you really have great knowledge of chinese football...

Thanks a lot for the info man...
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do you know the 2006 version?
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long time no see, greenlion

you're so knowledgeable about china soccer, especially the days before 1990's

First time I found a english website about chinese soccer.

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