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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old December 4th, 2008, 21:00 Thread Starter
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Argentine cinema

I have seens Nine Queens and El Aura by Bielinsky. Both great movies.

I rented a movie called Ronda nocturna, directed by Edgardo Cozarinsky, is it any good? How respected is Cozarinsky as a director?

Life in Argentina is similar in many respects to life in Serbia, so I am interested in Argentine cinema, as films are often the best way of learning about different cultures.
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I've never seen any of those movies. Maybe Fangio has.

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you are out of touch, my friend. I highly recommend Nien Queens and The Aura.
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Nine Queens: entertaining, Darin is playing himself, therefore it works out.
El Aura: has its moments, but too much pretentious (in a bad sense, you can't try to be tidy and pretentious at the same time, it doesn't work) and forced to be obscure.
Ronda Nocturna: I didn't see it.

Cinema in Argentina is from old data, from mega productions in the early days (the era of the white phones as it was called), to independet cinema, passing through pretentious stuff...

As a whole? I don't like our cinema...way below any other art form of expression made down here...still, some new fellas are having more refreshing ideas, others made just commercial but crafty movies like 9 Queens, and some few movies are good cool movies...

We used to love cinema, many here still does and we were one of the few countries were Godard, Allen, Antognoni or Bergamn could have movies "en cartel" for long periods of time...by the way Serb, Kusturica is a big cult here...I guess you can find him playing with his band in his Banfield t-shirt.

Nowadays is not that much the case, but still is a place with at least some cult for cinema and lots of young directors and other jobs related to cinema have their voice.

One thing I like that still is pretty much the norm, is that movies are subtitle, and not translated...when we reach the point of tarsnlating almost every movie, well we will fully join the blockbuster world...and that would be lame...but what the heck, things change, some changes won't change me.

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Kusturica is a cult figure everywhere, it seems. Movies are subtitled in Serbia, as well. I don't understand why in some countries they dub them over. Can you imagine some GErman fuck dubbing over Deniro's "Are you talking to me?" scene? Ridiculous.
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Fangio has to tell me more about Argetine made movies. But there is one movie shot on location in Argentina that suits me. Wong Kar-Wei's "Happy Together"

Wong, a Godard disciple (who isn't if you are serious about modern cinema, no?), also incorporated many Argentine songs in his later work "2046."

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Wong for me is thinking too much about his style, if you he stills thinks too much about it, he actually might find he has no style or end like Wenders or Jarmusch

I didn't like his last movie in the USA, the one with Natalie Portman and the singer I can't recall her name.

I have 2046 in DVD, I still I didn't watch it...

Happy together manages to make look Buenos Aires like some other place, in a somehow a bit surreal and alienated perspective...which works to some extent since the protagonists are alienated, so once being in such state, is quite logical to transform your "place" in some surreal ambient

I never watched so many Quilmes beers like in that movie, not even in some Quilmes commercial.

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Kusturica is a cult figure everywhere, it seems. Movies are subtitled in Serbia, as well. I don't understand why in some countries they dub them over. Can you imagine some GErman fuck dubbing over Deniro's "Are you talking to me?" scene? Ridiculous.
Dubbing takes out almost half of the acting, but I guess that once people gets accostume to it, they feel is odd to watch a movie in its original language.

Nevertheless few things are as funny as watching Top Gun dubbed in spanish

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Possibly only watching Warriors chaning to spanish - english - portuguese. It is very funny.

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post #10 of 34 (permalink) Old December 9th, 2008, 21:05
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Argentine movies in a nutshell: ZzzZZzzzZz....
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Bombón El Perro is a good Argentine film.
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The one from Sorin?...he is like an argie Win Wenders, he as his moments..but like Loco said, most of argie cinema is booooooooooooooring

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Yeah Carlos Sorin... it's the only Argentine film I've seen but very enjoyable.
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He has some odd bizarre movie with Daniel Day Lewis playing a role of a dentist in Patagonia

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Well, there is one Argie -- besides the MessIAH (woohoo as you can see I'm still huffing and puffing from el Classico) -- that uses the country as a jumping off point, the pianist and conductor Daniel Barenboim. A Good man with a kind heart, and once married to the wild fire Jacqueline du Pré

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Seems linda you realized argie cinema sucks so you moved to music...there's way more than Barenhoim in such regard, like martha Argerich, Piazzolla and a large etc..

Do you know this phrase?: "The best European composer I know is Argentinian"..was said about one of the most bizarre (avant garde sounds more neat) muscians ever, a certain fellow whose freedom challenged his surname...the composer is Kagel, not long ago dead.

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More evidence that Argentina does not exist at all...

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but sounds good

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Which is an improvement over Uruguay, they do not sound good. All those imaginary countries of south america would improve a little better if they could sing.

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Fito Paez is a great composer, me thinks.

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