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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old December 20th, 2009, 00:08 Thread Starter
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R10 and TGO, so what do we do now?

I'm refering to the games involving the Italian teams. First of all, I'd like to know if all the Italian teams of our game have been affected, although knowing that several games of Serie A have been suspended, I can bet it's most (if not all) of them.

There may be several solutions, but the one I like the most: The Spanish and English teams who face the Italian teams will keep the results of this weekend, since they're not involved in this situation. The Italian teams will have to do their teams again for the next Serie A fixture, which I think it will be on Jan 6 (correct me, if I'm wrong).

Of course, if any of the Italian fantasy teams are not affected by the suspensions at all, then I don't think we should allow them to go to the Jan 6 fixture. Although, knowing that 2 games have been suspended, I don't think it'll happen.

For now: Bolonia-Atalanta and Fiorentina-Milan, but more games can be affected.

But I want to listen to your opinion.
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There may be several solutions, but the one I like the most: The Spanish and English teams who face the Italian teams will keep the results of this weekend, since they're not involved in this situation. The Italian teams will have to do their teams again for the next Serie A fixture, which I think it will be on Jan 6 (correct me, if I'm wrong).


I don't think it gives the Italian sides any real advantage, even if they know how well their opponents have done.
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Well add Cagliari-Udinese to that. Plus not sure if other games of tommorrow will happen either, depends if the weather eases up, little murmurs and bit unclear.

I can avoid some of the players involved in these games (Di Vaio, Jeda, reserve CBs), even if it can be bit annoying (reserves not so good, in general depends on Ale plays or not). If I did I can have a regular round. But others may have more problems, for example, Andrey, his attack is a Fiorentina one, so he is rather effected, a great attacking duo for him.

Your solution is good enough. Because if we postponed the count to when these games will be played (as we have to for our league), then we'll have to wait til end of January I think.

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There may be several solutions, but the one I like the most: The Spanish and English teams who face the Italian teams will keep the results of this weekend, since they're not involved in this situation. The Italian teams will have to do their teams again for the next Serie A fixture, which I think it will be on Jan 6 (correct me, if I'm wrong).
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Okay, then the Spanish and English teams keep their points and the Italians go to the next Serie A fixture. I think it's fair.

There are 6 Italian teams (for now) that are affected by this situation and I don't think that, even knowing the results of their rivals, things change at all... as if they could know what their players will do in a couple of weeks.

I'll announce it, ok?
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post #6 of 47 (permalink) Old December 20th, 2009, 16:25
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Yes I agree, it's not like knowing they're losing 3-0 or something means they can play 6 strikers, there's no real advantage gained. Go ahead with your plan K4

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Thanks for your input guys.
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From how I understood it, if my players played today, the results count. And the players that didn't play today will get their scoring counted next game....for example, I had 9 players start today but am missing 2. The result of my game doesn't count until next week when my 2 players are active and get a result next game. That is what I thought I agreed to, if it wasn't 100% clear cause I am confused a bit.

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Thats fine with me.
I interpreted this as players affected today will have their games counted on January 6th. Not that we had to re-submit an entire 11 on January 6th. It is unfair not to count players results of today.

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Well, in order to avoid confusions, the idea was to leave it all for the next fixture, not just the teams who did not play.

The Italian teams will have to do their teams again for the next Serie A fixture, which I think it will be on Jan 6 (correct me, if I'm wrong).


Only if a team was not affected at all, we could continue with it, but it's not the case in any team, as far as I know.

Personally, I didn't care about it. I just thought it was easier for everyone to put everything in the same fixture. Easier to count the points, to do the lineups, etc.

Now I just see a problem... we'd be changing the decision AFTER most of the Serie A games have been played, which may lead to complaints. This is the only thing I fear now.
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I had 9 players play....my full attack, midfield, and keeper so in my opinion, my team was not affected. My 2 CBs didn't play and I have a sub on the bench. 2 CBs not playing did not affect my team. Basically my full squad played and my results should count.

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In XT Serie A, we have had these issues in the past with weather and hooligans causing matches to be postponed. We never postponed entire weekends...we ALWAYS count the stats of the players that played today. Those who did not play this weekend because of postponed matches had to wait for the rescheduled matches to have those points tallied.

Now because we have a set schedule of matches in XT Europe with different leagues involved, I understand that we cannot wait til the real Serie A decides to re-play matches. So I understood it as the players that didn't play today will have their points tallied on January 6th. In XT Serie A, we will wait til those matches are played even if its in March.

Now I misread your post of ALL Italian teams and I was not online this morning to read or clarify anything. In my opinion, I should not be penalized today because of 2 players. If I had 2 players play and 9 missing, I understand. But I don't want to lose my scoring of today. Looking at the results, I may be eliminated or go to penalties against Hunter so its not like I know I won with today's results. I had 95% of my team play, so it should count.

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So do you want to play with your full squad today? Or are you implying that you want 9 of your players to be counted today and the other 2 next weekend?
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Yes, I think this is what he's implying, and were I in his situation, I would feel the same way.
Yes and thank you K4 and Culed.

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Okay, maybe it makes sense. So I'm opening this debate again.
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Yes and thank you K4 and Culed.
I'd like to listen to TGO too.
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Sorry I have to disagree with romanista10, it'd be unfair to count the points of 2 players this week and the rest the next. It means opposing players in Serie A have been used in two fixtures, for example one of those two players could have played against a weak defence this week, and benefitted from that. Then next week when his remaining players play, another one of his players could play against the same weak defence and score more points. Team selections are made based also on the team your players will be facing, and I think this will perhaps give an unfair advantage as you could play the same "opposition" twice.

I think it'd be unwise to split the games across two separate Serie A gameweeks.

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Understandable K4...remember the precedent was set in XT Serie A already. Since the issues involves our league, we should follow how we dealt with the situation.

I take the blame for this as I should have clarified when I agreed with your statement above. I was not careful in my reading or detailed in my response.

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TGO then my subs come in and my game is not affected....either way the results count. I would have changed by bench had I known this as well. I am unable to be on the comp 24 hours a day. If not that, then ALL leagues replay the game on January 6th as I don't agree with different leagues playing on different weekends. Unfair that some of the Italian players played today and could then be injured or suspended on January 6th....or if players in England and Spain scored today but would be suspended on Janaury 6th, you have the advantage.

This debate can go on and on....we should follow the precedent rule we used the past 3 years in XT Serie A.

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