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post #1 of 436 (permalink) Old June 23rd, 2013, 17:51 Thread Starter
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Israeli Clubs in European Competitions 2013/2014

Tommorow we will have the draw in Switzerland of the Champions League and Europa League qualifiers.

All Israeli clubs are seeded in this stage (Hapoel Ramat Gan as cup winners will start in a later stage, but not seeded).

Maccabi Tel Aviv´s possible opponents:

Zeljeznicar (Bosnia)
Harfnafjadar (Iceland)
Gyor (Hungary)
The New Saints (Wales)
Ludogorets Razgard (Bulgaria)
Sligo Rovers (Ireland)
Shahktyor Karaganda (Kazakhstan)
Skenderbeu Korce (Albania)
Birkirkara (Malta)
Streymur (Faroe Islands)
Cliftonville (Northern Ireland)
Vardar Skopje (Macedonia)
Daugava Daugavspils (Latvia)
Tre Penne (San Marino)
Sutjeska Niksic (Montenegro)
Kalju Nomme (Estonia)
Fola Esch (Luxembourg)

Not very known opponents, and whoever Maccabi gets in the draw they are favourites. Zeljeznicar are known to Maccabi, but last time we met we had comfortable win.
Maccabi going through in this stage it will have two more rounds to reach the group stage. Losing in the third round they still have a chance at the Europa League playoffs, if they reach the Champions League playoffs and lose they will automatically qualify to the Europa League Group Stage.


Europa League possible opponents for Hapoel Tel Aviv and Maccabi Haifa:

Rejkjavik (Iceland)
Dudelange (Luxembourg)
Senica (Slovakia)
Inter Turku (Finland)
Piast Gliwice (Poland)
Hacken (Sweden)
Hibernian (Scotland)
Dacia Chisinau (Moldavia)
Levadia Tallin (Estonia)
Lokomotiva Zagreb (Croatia)
Linfield Belfast (Northern Ireland)
Honved (Hungary)
Stromgodset (Norway)
Valetta (Malta)
Honka Espoo (Finland)
Olimpja Ljubljana (Slovenia)
Differdange (Luxembourg)
Metalurgs Liepaja (Latvia)
Gefle (Sweden)
Pyunik Yerevan (Armenia)
Zrinjski Mostar (Bosnia)
St. Johnstone (Scotland)
Inter Baku (Azerbaijan)
Beroe Stara Zagora (Bulgaria)
Skonto Riga (Latvia)
Dila Gori (Georgia)
Siroki Bireg (Bosnia)
Suduva Marijapole (Lithuania)
Vaduz (Liechtenstein)
Flora Tallin (Estonia)
Jagodina (Serbia)
Khazar Lenkoran (Azerbaijan)
Trencin (Slovakia)
Hodd (Norway)
Torshavn (Faroe Islands)
Rudar Plejlja (Montenegro)
TPS Turku (Finland)
Breidablik (Iceland)
Botev Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Derry City (Ireland)

A few opponents very traditional in Europe, but still whoever Maccabi Haifa and Hapoel Tel Aviv face they are favourites. If they confirm their edge Hapoel will go the other rounds seeded while Maccabi Haifa will go through the other two rounds unseeded.
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In Champions League the third round and playoffs, Maccabi Tel Aviv possible opponents are Basel,BATE Borisov,Celtic,Steaua București,APOEL,Viktoria Plzeň ,Dinamo Zagreb ,Partizan ,Austria Wien ,Legia Warsaw.
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In Champions League , Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC with a tie against Hungarian club Győri ETO FC.

In Europa League , Maccabi Haifa would play against Sliema Wanderers FC from Malta or FC Khazar Lankaran from Azerbaijan.
Hapoel Tel-Aviv would play against Beroe Stara Zagora from Bulgaria.

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Maccabi Tel Aviv Vs. Gyori ETO

First Leg: ETO Park,, Gyori, 16th or 17th of July

Second Leg: Bloomfield, Tel Aviv, 23rd or 24th of July


Gyori is one of toughest opponents Maccabi Tel Aviv could have got from this draw and despite the yellows being favourites they will need to be focused in order to go through. One of the advantages is that Paulo Sousa has recently worked in Hungarian football with Videoton and will know how to prepare better the team against them.

Gyori has won four Hungarian league titles and four Hungarian cups (this includes the double they made last season).

They have never played an Israeli opposition before and they hold a very respectable history reaching the European Cup semifinals in 1964/1965 season losing to Benfica. And the following season a quarterfinal finish at the Uefa Cup Winners Cup falling to Standard Liege.



Hapoel Tel Aviv Vs. Beroe Stara Zagora


The club has won the league title only once and holds two Bulgarian cups being the last season their second one. Despite an apparent low record the team is traditional in the country and has some European history especially in the late 70´s and early 80´s. The team had a gap in Europe since 1987 until 2011 where they fell at the 3QR to Rapid Wien. They return now to Europe because of the cup title as they finished 7th place in the league and should not pose much threat to Hapoel Tel Aviv.
Beroe has never played an Israeli opponent in European competitions.


Maccabi Haifa Vs. Sliema Wanderers or Khazar Lankaran

Maccabi Haifa waits for the winners of the game above. Sliema are the most prized team in Malta with 26 league titles and 20 cups, despite not winning any of them since 2009. Last season they finshed in third place.
They have played Maccabi Netanya in the 2009/2010 Europa League 2QR and lost 3-0 on aggregate.
Khazar Lankaran is also known to the Israelis as they played Maccabi Tel Aviv in the 2011/2012 Europa League 2QR and lost 3-1 on aggregate. The club was founded in 2004 and has a good financial support being since the beginning in good positions in the local league and eventually participating in Europe. The team has one Azerbaijan title and 3 cups.


All Israeli teams are favourites in their clashes, but Maccabi Tel Aviv has a tricky opponent and in the Champions League you never face easy opponents even on early stages.
Let´s hope for the best.
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ETO hold a very respectable history reaching the European Cup semifinals in 1964/1965 season losing to Benfica. And the following season a quarterfinal finish at the Uefa Cup Winners Cup falling to Standard Liege.
lol yeah but that was in 1960s when our league and football was still in world elite. (even MTK reached a cup-winners cup final back then even though they were already a shadow of its former self)

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lol yeah but that was in 1960s when our league and football was still in world elite. (even MTK reached a cup-winners cup final back then even though they were already a shadow of its former self)
In the 60s, Ferenc Puskás still scored goals for Real Madrid. Today Gyori ETO most dangerous player is Georgian striker - Rati Aleksidze as he scored 23 goals in 86 games. But he is 36, so he is older player and certainly far from his best.
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Well, if there is something we shouldn´t do is to enter the game underestimating the opponent. In the Champions League there are no easy games and we are talking about a champion from a country here. Of course Maccabi has history in Europe as well participating in Champions League and Europa League Group Stage, but did we reach so far in Europe? Nope. Did the public ever here of Eran Zahavi, Eliran Atar or Shiran Yeini? Very few ones, so we too aren´t known. We can´t enter the game thinking it will be piece of cake, but we must understand of course that we have all the conditions to win this.
Plus, Maccabi started late their pre season at least in terms of organization. The new coach arrived only 3 days ago, two key players left and today the fitness coaches announced they are out. So we aren´t in a position of underestimating.
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lol yeah but that was in 1960s when our league and football was still in world elite. (even MTK reached a cup-winners cup final back then even though they were already a shadow of its former self)
Certainly Hungarian football was back then one of the best and certainly this contributed for teams to reach these positions in Europe. Of course it was 40 years ago, but still what i meant is that Gyori isn´t a nobody team and we must be focused.
How is MTK, BTW? They returned from second division and were fighting for European spots right? Will they play in Europe this season?
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When is the European fest starting? July or August?

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When is the European fest starting? July or August?
Mid July the Israeli teams will have their first games.
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got my flight and hotel booked in budapest. whos coming????????
still trying to figure out how i'll get to Gyor. but it'll be ok. !!!!
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got my flight and hotel booked in budapest. whos coming????????
still trying to figure out how i'll get to Gyor. but it'll be ok. !!!!
2 years ago I traveled to Hungary, Slovakia, and Austria. You can rent a car in Budapest and It will take about 1 hour of driving to get to Gyor. If you have some time to spend, you can get a train or bus to get to Bratislava and Vienna. It will be really nice trip.
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we are like 350-400 people from the organization who got their tickets already, dont think renting a car will be the thing for us... but yeah i guess we all gonna get us couple of bus'es or something, i just dont know anyone there who we can contact with, a bit unkown place for people in israel..
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we are like 350-400 people from the organization who got their tickets already, dont think renting a car will be the thing for us... but yeah i guess we all gonna get us couple of bus'es or something, i just dont know anyone there who we can contact with, a bit unkown place for people in israel..
Just contact to Budapest Jewish community which are about 50 000 people. Also many Israeli tourists come to Budapest each once in a while. And Gyor is not that big town something like 100,000 people so you certainly will not lost there.
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Győr has a fast railway connection with Budapest (the fastest in Hungary), taking as little as 1 hour 15 minutes. InterCity and RailJet trains run this route. Győr is also easily reachable by train from the surrounding countries: from Bratislava (Slovakia) and from Vienna (Austria) (in one and a half hour). Buses start from Budapest, Nepliget (Central bus station of Budapest) nearly every hour, for example, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00... There is also a bus at least once a day from Vienna and Bratislava.


Apparently , it will take about half our to get from Budapest International Airport to Nepliget (Central bus station of Budapest), and another one and a half hour to get to ETO Park stadium which located at Nagysándor József Street, Győr.

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How many tickets are available for Maccabi fans?
Guess that if it is possible there will be a good presence in Hungary.
Maybe some MTK fans that are from the Jewish community could give an assist or guidance as well.
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How many tickets are available for Maccabi fans?
Guess that if it is possible there will be a good presence in Hungary.
Maybe some MTK fans that are from the Jewish community could give an assist or guidance as well.
Stadion ETO has a capacity of 16 000 people, so if about 1 000 cheer for Maccabi that will be great.
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Stadion ETO has a capacity of 16 000 people, so if about 1 000 cheer for Maccabi that will be great.
Certainly! Have no doubts about that!
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What do you guys think of Israeli teams chances in Europe? I think Hapoel and Maccabi Tel Aviv should qualify to at least the europa league. Maccabi Haifa is not seeded in the play-offs so they need some luck... And hapoel ramat gan......Would be great if they get a win or a draw, unlikely though.
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Im hoping Maccabi TLV can do some damage...cause seriously....they got the money to buy good players and do some real impact.....

Hapoel Tel Aviv...only a legacy..
Maccabi Haifa is good..

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