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The 2007 NFL Draft

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1. Oakland Raiders – JaMarcus Russell, quarterback, LSU. His ability to keep his eyes focused downfield, plus his rifle arm and eye-opening size, would make him a perfect fit for a Raiders team that lacked firepower and punch in its offense this past season.

Detroit 2. Detroit Lions – Jamaal Anderson, defensive lineman, Arkansas. A quick glance at the Lions' depth chart shows that despite Calvin Johnson possibly being the most talented player on the board, they could use an impact defensive lineman. That makes Anderson highly attractive. Detroit is the team most others will look toward to make a deal since one of the two top-rated quarterbacks will still be available at this selection.

(A coin flip at the NFL combine will decide the No. 3 and No. 4 choices between Cleveland and Tampa Bay.)

Cleveland 3/4. Cleveland Browns – Alan Branch, defensive lineman, Michigan. Branch would fill a major void for the Browns, who would allow him to clog the middle while opening up lanes for their outside pass rushers and young linebackers Kamerion Wimbley and D'Qwell Jackson. Cleveland paid close attention to the interior line position leading up to last year's draft but opted to take the pass rusher, so addressing the spot this year should come as no surprise.

Tampa Bay 3/4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Calvin Johnson, wide receiver, Georgia Tech. The healthy return of quarterback Chris Simms, running back Carnell Williams and wide receiver Michael Clayton certainly will help, but having a playmaker on the outside like Johnson to line up across speedy veteran Joey Galloway would open up the ground attack and provide the Bucs' quarterback with the type of rare pass-catcher who can make plays anywhere on the field.

Arizona 5. Arizona Cardinals – Joe Thomas, offensive tackle, Wisconsin. They have areas on the defensive side of the ball to address, but finding a tackle that can lock down and anchor their line for the next 10 years is a primary need heading into the offseason. The Steelers have made it a habit of dominating the line of scrimmage during Ken Whisenhunt's time in Pittsburgh; it is something he now will stress in Arizona.

Washington 6. Washington Redskins – Gaines Adams, defensive end, Clemson. While not a complete player, Adams possesses the primary asset of harassing the quarterback. Creating pressure and forcing throws would provide the 'Skins with an improved pass defense and likely force opposing teams into an increased number of turnovers in 2007.

Minnesota 7. Minnesota Vikings – Reggie Nelson, defensive back, Florida. Nelson has the cover skills to man-up against slot receivers and has keen awareness when called upon to blitz. It may seem out of the question for Nelson to come off the board this early now, but come draft day, he will have the type of meteoric rise that saw Donte' Whitner shoot into the top 10 a year ago.

Houston 8. Houston Texans – Marshawn Lynch, running back, California. He's just too good to pass up here, as he can run, catch and provide the big-play ability that only a handful of backs in the NFL possess. Adrian Peterson's name has often come up or been associated with this pick, but Lynch is a far better fit for the Texans' scheme because of his above-average hands. Also, both Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith have seen the type of instant impact a rookie back can bring as evidenced by the success of divisional rivals Jacksonville and Indianapolis.

Miami 9. Miami Dolphins – Brady Quinn, quarterback, Notre Dame. The Dolphins were close evaluators of Jay Cutler leading up to last year's draft and now sit in prime position to solidify the quarterback position once again. They have needs along the offensive line and at defensive tackle and safety, but those are likely to be addressed in free agency. Quinn is a good fit for Miami's marketplace, too, since he has a big name and the type of maturity and character to handle the South Beach lifestyle.

Atlanta 10. Atlanta Falcons – Ted Ginn Jr., wide receiver/return man, Ohio State. Bobby Petrino has been successful at every stop along the way, using a variety of schemes, formations and, most importantly, playmakers in a variety of roles. Ginn has been outspoken in his desire to play some defense at cornerback, so he'll fit right in with the Falcons' other elite playmakers in cornerback DeAngelo Hall, running backs Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood, and quarterback Michael Vick.

San Francisco 11. San Francisco 49ers – Amobi Okoye, defensive tackle, Louisville. The 49ers need to upgrade their defensive talent at cornerback and in the interior part of their line. In three to four years, Okoye will develop into one of this draft's best talents, and when he reaches that potential, he will still be only 23 years old. There is better depth at cornerback than interior line, so look for the 49ers to double-dip on corners later on.

Buffalo 12. Buffalo Bills – Aaron Ross, cornerback, Texas. The expected loss of cornerback Nate Clements in free agency opens the door for the Bills to find an ample replacement with Ross, who burst onto the scene with an outstanding senior campaign. He also can contribute to an already solid special teams unit.

St. Louis 13. St. Louis Rams – Charles Johnson, defensive end, Georgia. The Rams are hoping to upgrade a few areas, but none is more pressing than at outside pass rusher. Johnson was one of the best front-four playmakers, and he will wow scouts with his all-around athleticism, which will drive up his draft-day value.

Carolina 14. Carolina Panthers – Lawrence Timmons, outside linebacker, Florida State. The Panthers' defense struggled after the loss of Will Witherspoon in free agency and Dan Morgan to injury. Timmons has amazing athleticism and brings the big-play ability Carolina lacked at the position this past season. The Panthers could also go off the board and take a guy like Adrian Peterson if he were to slip down this far.

Pittsburgh 15. Pittsburgh Steelers – Leon Hall, cornerback, Michigan. The Steelers got burned on the outside several times last season and hope to upgrade the corner position through the draft. Hall may lack the straight-line speed of Ike Taylor, but he would provide Pittsburgh with better ball skills and toughness. Hall also brings the experience of having defended many of the top-rated receivers in this year's draft.

Green Bay 16. Green Bay Packers – Adrian Peterson, running back, Oklahoma. While Peterson clearly is a top-five or top-10 talent, teams in need of a running back could address other positions, meaning he could fall right into the lap of the Packers. They need to upgrade the position, but they may opt for younger, fresher legs instead of re-signing veteran Ahman Green.

Jacksonville 17. Jacksonville Jaguars – Adam Carriker, defensive lineman, Nebraska. The Jaguars need to spice up their outside pass rush, so the addition of Carriker, the best front-four defender still on the board, would give them a versatile prospect that can strengthen the play of their entire front seven.

Cincinnati 18. Cincinnati Bengals – Darrelle Revis, cornerback, Pittsburgh. The Bengals are growing old on the outside, especially with Tory James hitting the free-agent market. Revis is a potential playmaker with no baggage, something that should be of more importance in their draft room this year.

Tennessee 19. Tennessee Titans – Robert Meachem, wide receiver, Tennessee. There will be several receiver options on the board, but the local talent may fit in the best. The former regime brought in a number of receivers, but none of them have become a primary go-to guy. And with Drew Bennett on the open market, the addition of Meachem would give Vince Young a vertical threat to grow with.

N.Y. Giants 20. New York Giants – DeMarcus Tyler, defensive tackle, North Carolina State. The Giants could look for help at offensive tackle or running back, but their primary need is to find a run stuffer that can aid their ample pass rushers on the outside. "Tank" can step into the role as a rookie and secure the spot next to Fred Robbins, who is coming off his best season.

Denver 21. Denver Broncos – Jarvis Moss, defensive end, Florida. Using the leftover linemen from the Browns the past few years has grown old in the Mile High City, so this year's goal is to find a pass-rushing presence. Moss, who has upside if he can gain weight and concentrate full-time on football, would give the Broncos the young pass rusher they desire.

Dallas 22. Dallas Cowboys – Brandon Meriweather, safety, Miami. The leak in their defensive unit starts over the top in pass coverage. That's why Meriweather, with his all-around play, would be a huge difference-maker for a team that still has its eyes on a Super Bowl berth next season.

Kansas City 23. Kansas City Chiefs – Tony Ugoh, offensive tackle, Arkansas. The Chiefs went through offensive tackles at an unprecedented rate, and that slowed down their ground attack and ruined the rhythm of their play-action passing. Ugoh is raw in some areas, but he brings a wealth of athleticism to an aging line and the potential of becoming a future standout at left tackle.

New England 24. New England Patriots – Jay Moore, defensive end, Nebraska. The Patriots are growing old at the pass-rusher positions, where Moore excelled in the postseason. He is fluid enough to play outside linebacker in New England's 3-4 scheme, and he is a bright, poised kid who can start right away if necessary.

N.Y. Jets 25. New York Jets – Zach Miller, tight end, Arizona State. The Jets looked to fill this spot in last year's draft but missed out on the top prospects. Our mock has the tight end position sliding down the draft board, providing New York with the chance to add a prospect that can be a solid addition in terms of pass-catching skills and blocking ability.

Philadelphia 26. Philadelphia Eagles – LaRon Landry, safety, LSU. With safety Michael Lewis set to move via free agency, the Eagles will look to find a replacement. Landry could be the one who gets paired with All-Pro defender Brian Dawkins the next few years.

New Orleans 27. New Orleans Saints – Anthony Spencer, defensive end/outside linebacker, Purdue. The Saints have built a defense around speed and playmakers, but they are likely to lose Charles Grant in free agency. Spencer is a "hybrid" pass rusher who could play an important role off the bench during his rookie campaign.

New England 28. New England Patriots – Daymeion Hughes, cornerback, California. The Patriots like players that have solid character and production, and Hughes fits that profile. He could challenge to start as a rookie if Asante Samuel is lost in free agency.

Baltimore 29. Baltimore Ravens – Justin Blalock, offensive lineman, Texas. The Ravens are looking to find more consistency out of their interior blockers, a quality Blalock could provide short-term. He has the ability to step into the starting lineup if he keeps his weight down and his right knee healthy.

San Diego 30. San Diego Chargers – Tanard Jackson, defensive back, Syracuse. The Chargers will be on the hot seat going into next season, since most feel they have been the most talented team not to make an impact in the playoffs the past few years. Jackson would give them a versatile defender who could find a starting role at safety as a rookie and help solidify their pass coverage.

Chicago 31. Chicago Bears – Greg Olsen, tight end, Miami (Fla.). The Bears have a few other holes, but they could use another playmaker on offense. The return of Tommie Harris and Mike Brown will help their defensive unit bounce back to full strength. Moreover, general manager Jerry Angelo seems to like playmakers from the state of Florida.

Indianapolis 32. Indianapolis Colts – Jon Beason, linebacker, Miami. The Colts have allowed linebackers to walk during free agency, and that could happen again with Cato June. Beason would be a near-perfect fit for the Super Bowl champs and a great value pick if he slides to No. 32.
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old February 9th, 2007, 17:12 Thread Starter
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The first top 50
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Calvin Johnson is the best player in this draft and i still don't believe the Raiders will take Russell at #1 IMO they are gonna take Johnson especially now since Randy Moss will be gone from Oakland.
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Rating the quarterbacks
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1. JaMarcus Russell, LSU. He became the headliner of this QB class thanks to his fine performances down the stretch of his junior campaign, finishing the season with 28 touchdown passes and just eight interceptions. He also raised his completion percentage to 67.8 percent while making a large number of big plays.

Russell has the keen ability to keep his eyes focused downfield, in the pocket and out on the move, and he throws the ball fluidly and with terrific velocity on all his passes. Most quarterbacks his size (6-foot-6, 260 pounds) have more of a windup, but he has a quick release and his ball soars down the field on vertical routes. He is able to shrug off pass rushers and would-be tacklers, but he's not a scrambler by any means. He will hold the ball too long at times and has taken a few big hits that have led to injuries (separated left shoulder, right wrist).

Russell can be raw at times and go back to being more of a thrower than technically sound passer, and when that happens, he is open to sacks, turnovers and poor reads. Still, such instances seemed to occur with far less regularity this past season, giving most teams the belief that he can take over an offense similar to the way Vince Young did with the Titans.

Russell, who has big hands, should be an impressive all-around athlete at the NFL scouting combine since he has shed a few pounds while working out with a QB coach on positional drills. He will not last past the first three picks of the draft.

2. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame. If there is such a thing as overexposure when it comes to a prospect, then Quinn is suffering from it right now. The preseason favorite to win the Heisman Trophy is now being deemed by some evaluators as a mid-first round pick. That clearly will not occur, but the story makes for good headlines.

He has a quick release, enough arm strength to make all the throws and very good poise in the pocket. His two-year run under the guidance of Charlie Weis will also work well in his favor. Quinn is a very good athlete for the position and will pass the eye test as well as anyone at the combine.

His lack of success against top-rated teams or defenses has raised some concern, but he also proved his smarts and toughness throughout his career. He will force some throws at times rather than taking a sack or waiting for the next down, but he also stands tall and sets up quickly, getting the ball out with good authority. Still, some of his downfield throws seemed to wobble a little more than desired.

Should Quinn slide even past the first few picks, a team will trade up for his services as he brings toughness, intangibles and a winning attitude.

3. Trent Edwards, Stanford. He's an interesting prospect to evaluate because you can go so many ways with his grade. His injury history has some teams concerned; others see a big, potentially physical pocket passer that could develop into a solid starting quarterback in the next few years.

A former highly touted prep prospect that suffered through injuries, inconsistent line play and average weapons during his college career, Edwards has gone through a strenuous rehabilitation and workout regiment to get his foot back to full strength after playing just seven games this past season. He has also taken the time to increase his conditioning while adding weight-room strength (he's currently hitting mid-20s in 225-pound repetitions on the bench press).

Edwards has a strong arm, very good accuracy from the pocket and the ability to progress through his reads if given the proper protection. He throws a very catchable ball, too. His game breaks down some when he is forced to move or roll out, he does not always get his feet set and he fails to keep his eyes focused downfield, which has led to turnovers. A little fumble prone earlier in his career, Edwards must learn to get the ball out quicker or throw the ball away rather than taking so many sacks.

He has an ideal body type at 225 to 230 pounds, and he's a very bright kid who will absorb playbooks quickly and can still improve his pre-snap reads. His final draft status will be based on his ability to complete a full workout for scouts and prove his injuries are behind him.

Teams with an aging veteran or the hope of developing a pocket passer over the next two to three years should take a hard look at Edwards. He has all the tools to start in the league and you will not have to spend a first-round pick to select him.

4. Kevin Kolb, Houston. The biggest question surrounding him is whether he is just another system quarterback or a future NFL starter. The system QB label has become an issue because his college team's terminology and play calling were based around concepts and ideas that won't translate to success at the next level.

He took the majority of his snaps from the shotgun, so his footwork needs some refinement, but he has quick feet and gets to his spots in fine order. He also has good size and shows more elusiveness than pure athleticism when he has to pull the ball down and run.

Kolb has not been responsible for reading the entire field, so how quickly teams feel he can become adept at going through his progressions will be the deciding factor on how high he is ranked on draft boards. He has a good enough arm to make all the throws, even on the move, but the ball does not jump out of his hand. He will also carry the ball low at times, causing him to have a bit of a windup.

Teams would like to see him come to the combine with better development in his physique, which lacked definition at the Senior Bowl. He had a smaller lower frame than desired for the position, too. But I like his accuracy on the short-to-intermediate routes, and he puts good touch on his fade routes. He will stand tall in the pocket and step into his throws most of the time.

Kolb helped turn the Cougars around during his four-year career, so he brings some good intangibles to the table. Recently married, he's the type of well-committed kid that will take the pro game seriously. He offers a solid second-round option for a team that could not trade up for Russell or Quinn.

5. Drew Stanton, Michigan State. A sporadic past two years has caused scouts to have various opinions on the future of a quarterback that possesses very good natural ability and ideal toughness for the position. This past season, Stanton started out strong once again, faltered some in the middle and then became more of a cautious passer than outgoing gunslinger.

He has the ability to roll out of the pocket and make all the throws, but he got hesitant at times, not trusting his arm and decision-making skills and reverting to bad habits that led to turnovers and some close, hard-fought losses. He also took some serious beatings in games, which caused him to fight through a number of nicks and bruises. To his credit, he remained on the field most of the time.

Stanton is a good athlete that should run in the 4.7 range in the 40, and that speed helps him escape the pocket and keep the play live. He has good arm strength on deep routes, but he holds the ball too long and puts too much air under the ball, floating some throws up for grabs. His mistakes seem to come in bunches as he had a few Jake Plummer-type games during his career, but his accuracy is fine as long as he steps into his throws. He can get antsy feet when pressure gets in his face. Most of the time, though, he is able to find a check-down route or escape thanks to his foot speed.
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I really don't know why Russell is all of a sudden better then Quinn now. Becuase of the Sugar Bowl?

Our defense makes everyone look like a first rounder. We have a good track record cementing those things happen. I mean what is Quinn's weakness? He's a very polished product with great tools. Plus he has great intangibles. He's really tough, I mean his whole career he's been beaten up and he's always willing to step up in the pocket. I really love Quinn as someone whose watch the kid for 4 years is a great talent. I mean it seems he's being knocked becuase of his inabaility to win the big game? Has anyone seen our defense, it ain't Quinn that cost us games.

I would take him #1 in a heartbeat.

But seriously though Russell will go to Oakland. Davis loves freakish athletes. If the Lions don't take Quinn they franchise should shut down.

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Is QB Russell or WR Johnson a better bet?
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The misadventures of Millen
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the only thing I hate about the NFL draft is that it takes forever, 15 minutes between picks is ridiculous

which is why the baseball draft is the best, 30 seconds I believe

Anyway, Giants need to draft an offensive lineman or a running back the most. OT was a disaster last season and without Tiki Barber, we have no proven running back

Russell should be the #1 pick, Lions should draft a QB
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I love this pick especially when Berman goes "Detroit has wasted no time" and Millen makes the Mike Williams pick in just 2 minutes. The worst part about it is the fans at the draft party are going wild especially Roary the lion lol
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Rumor: Braylon Edwards and 3rd to OAK for 1st
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...c.php?t=133113

The newest rumor is that the Raiders might trade the #1 pick to the Browns for Braylon Edwards and their #3 pick where they would take Brady Quinn.


Falcons owner orders GM to move up and draft CJ
http://www.footballsfuture.com/news/...ve-up-and.html

Raiders make contract offer to Quinn
http://www.footballsfuture.com/news/...-to-quinn.html


Packers make Chiefs offer for LJ
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Scout.com’s Warpaint Illustrated this morning confirmed with a source in the Chiefs organization that the Packers have offered their first overall pick (16th overall) and fourth round pick (112th overall) in this weekend’s NFL draft.
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Russell was the #1 pick by the Raiders
Calvin Johnson goes to the Lions at #2
Brady Quinn went down to #22, Browns who traded a lot to get that pick
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I've never seen this before and it was shown on Sky the other night.

Just a quick question, if a team drafts a player, do they have to agree salary beforehand or is this done later? I assume the draftee has to go to the team ,though they can be traded.
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NFL is different from other sports, but there is a guaranteed salary for the 1st round picks only, they discuss the rest of the contract after they get drafted. Not all the picks make the team, usually the 1st round pick is 99% certain but the other guys have to win a spot.

this is what I think, maybe somebody else knows better
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Thanks for that

Once drafted there is nothing stopping a new contract being negotiated is there?

Also is there a level of American Football below NFL where people who don't make the cut can play?
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Once drafted there is nothing stopping a new contract being negotiated is there?

Also is there a level of American Football below NFL where people who don't make the cut can play?
Nope unless the player refuses to sign one and holds out in which case he wont get paid and unless the team trades him he is stuck there.

Not really there used to be the XFL for a year and the USFL back in the days but they both folded cause there was no interest for them.
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usually guys who can't make the NFL go play in the Canadian Football League (CFL), young guys play in NFL Europe and there is the Arena Football League which is played indoors and only half the size of the real football field, in this league its mainly guys who couldn't even make the CFL.

XFL had interest for a few weeks but it died down, in fact the opening match got a higher rating than the final
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I've never seen this before and it was shown on Sky the other night.

Just a quick question, if a team drafts a player, do they have to agree salary beforehand or is this done later? I assume the draftee has to go to the team ,though they can be traded.
The only player that can agree to a contract (though not sign) before the draft is the first player selected. In other words, only the team with the number one pick can start talks with a certain player (who they plan to take with the first pick overall.). All other players and teams have to wait until they are drafted, or sign as an undrafted free-agent rookie after the draft is over, to negotiate and come to a contract agreement.

The player, however, is not under any obligation to sign a contract. Should he not come to terms with the team that drafted him, the player can re-enter the draft the following year.

This, however, seldom works in the benefit of the player (nevermind the team, who'll get no compensation the following year for losing said player) because you lose a year of income, not to mention signing bonuses, but also because the year off will drop your value and teams will be leary of drafting someone who they don't know they'll be able to sign, so his value will drop, in all likelihood, drop very significantly. SOmebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that has ever happened.

So it is in the interest of both club and player to get a deal done. The most that happens is the player will hold out of training camp and preseason. Very rarely though do they hold out past preseason. However, as rookie with a contract based on incentives, holding out means time taken away from training camp, which means he'll be completely useless to the play book, and thus, delay his debut.

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well the only one I can think of is Eli Manning, he was drafted by the San Diego Chargers first pick but he did not want to play for them, then the Giants traded their pick (Phillip Rivers) for Manning...

I have never seen what you mentioned though, a player not signing ans re-enters the draft. That is very common in baseball though as you can get drafted out of high school but most decide not to sign and play college baseball and get drafted higher if they play well at the college level.

In basketball thats not allowed, if you declare for the draft and don't get drafted or sign, you can't re-enter and they go to Europe or the NBDL to impress NBA scouts

In hockey draft its rare, mainly European players though
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