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NFL's Wk 17 . This is it babe !!!!!!!

WEEK 17

Saturday, Dec. 30
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N.Y. Giants at Washington 8:00 pm 125 124

Sunday, Dec. 31
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Carolina at New Orleans 1:00 pm 117 118
Cleveland at Houston 1:00 pm 130 119
Detroit at Dallas 1:00 pm 122 122
Jacksonville at Kansas City 1:00 pm 107 110
New England at Tennessee 1:00 pm 181
Oakland at N.Y. Jets 1:00 pm 144 144
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati 1:00 pm 146 146
Seattle at Tampa Bay 1:00 pm 158 158
St. Louis at Minnesota 1:00 pm 152 152
Arizona at San Diego 4:15 pm 125 123
Atlanta at Philadelphia 4:15 pm 147 123
Buffalo at Baltimore 4:15 pm 110 143
Miami at Indianapolis 4:15 pm 125 153
San Francisco at Denver 4:15 pm 119 117
Green Bay at Chicago 8:15 pm 143 147

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Saturday, Dec. 30


N.Y. Giants at Washington SKINS

Sunday, Dec. 31

Carolina at New Orleans SAINTS
Cleveland at Houston TEXANS
Detroit at Dallas POKES
Jacksonville at Kansas City CHIEFS
New England at Tennessee TITANS
Oakland at N.Y. Jets JETS
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati BENGALS
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St. Louis at Minnesota RAMS
Arizona at San Diego CHARGERS
Atlanta at Philadelphia EAGLES
Buffalo at Baltimore RAVENS
Miami at Indianapolis COLTS
San Francisco at Denver BRONCOS
Green Bay at Chicago PACK
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Saturday, Dec. 30


N.Y. Giants at Washington SKINS, NEVER NY

Sunday, Dec. 31

Carolina at New Orleans SAINTS
Cleveland at Houston TEXANS
Detroit at Dallas POKES
Jacksonville at Kansas City CHIEFS
New England at Tennessee TITANS
Oakland at N.Y. Jets RAIDERS,NEVER NY
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati BENGALS
Seattle at Tampa Bay B U C C AN E E R S
St. Louis at Minnesota RAMS
Arizona at San Diego CHARGERS
Atlanta at Philadelphia EAGLES
Buffalo at Baltimore RAVENS
Miami at Indianapolis COLTS
San Francisco at Denver BRONCOS
Green Bay at Chicago PACK
My precise sentiments !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yea, it's a shame too... I'd prefer to see another AFC team like the Bengals in the playoffs.

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Only to wave goodbye after their first game !!!!!! suckers !!!!!

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• Giants DE Strahan to miss rest of season

• Cowher to announce decision next week

• Mora defends record as Falcons coach

• Giants likely to make playoffs with win

• T.O. frustrated by lack of involvement

• Packers, Bears to meet on Sunday night

• Playoff-bound Eagles can win NFC East

• Raiders' Shell won't worry about future

• Colts lose control of playoff position

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Thw Jets are a Middle Shool team...Consider them E L I M I N A T E D !!!!!!

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They lasted longer than the Dolphins or Buccaneers anyway.
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Absolutely, Chicago will rest their starters, and Favre will want to go out with a bang. If Miami can win at Soldier field, anyone can.
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Bwahahahahahahaha :dielaugh: Then the Buccs must be a pee-wee team.

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I really hope this happens and the Giants lose to the Redskins saturday that way we can see the Packers and Favre in the playoffs. and if they played a team like the Eagles in the 1st round anything can happen.
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They bought the referees !!!!!!!!!

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• Giants' Shockey to sit out vs. Redskins

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• T.O. doesn't think Newman called him out

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Conference calamity

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Year-end review time, and from this vantage point it's easy to identify the most significant story of the NFL's 2006 regular season: The NFC's descent to second-class status in comparison to the powerful and more glamorous AFC.

How is it that the conference that boasts such high-profile and well-paid head coaches as Bill Parcells, Joe Gibbs, Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid, Jon Gruden, Tom Coughlin, John Fox and Dennis Green -- 13 Super Bowl trips, seven rings, and 95 seasons of NFL head-coaching experience among them -- has sunk to such embarrassing lows this season?:thmbdown: Even by the standards of the past decade or so, with AFC teams winning seven of nine Super Bowls and not having lost in the interconference season series since 1995, this year has been a disaster.

The NFC is the JV of the NFL, and one must factor in the depth of its inferiority in almost every consideration, from MVP balloting to the Coach of the Year race. If your schedule was dominated by 12 games against NFC teams -- and sorry, Drew Brees and Sean Payton, we're looking in your direction -- you simply weren't up against the same level of competition. Case closed. And lest you think that mere hyperbole, consider the following:

• The NFC's six-team playoff field has never inspired less confidence. Top-seeded Chicago struggled to beat lightweights Tampa Bay and Detroit (six wins between them) the past two weeks, and is considered a good bet to be the least regarded 14-2 team in league history. The No. 2 Saints (10-5) are a great story, but their loss at home to Washington two weeks ago proved they're far from invincible, as has their 5-4 record in their past nine games.


NFC West champ Seattle (8-7) has dropped three in a row in route to clinching the worst division in football, somehow managing to lose its last three division games. Dallas, which started December as the "hot'' team amidst Romo-mania, has been blown out at home twice in the past three weeks, and is staggering into the playoffs in reverse.

And don't even make us bring up the mockery of a playoff team that the NFC's No. 6 seed will be. The "contenders'' are currently led by the collapsing Giants (7-8), the poster child for the conference's sinking fortunes. All of which leaves us with only the Eagles (9-6) in possession of any true sense of momentum as the postseason beckons. Like Washington last year at this time, Philly has gone from 5-6 to a playoff berth, but at best can probably only count on one home game in the postseason.

• And that's the cream of the NFC's crop we're talking about. The rest of the conference has been a much uglier train wreck. All told, 11 of 16 NFC teams already are assured of non-winning seasons, compared to six in the AFC. Maybe more eye-opening, NFC teams are under .500 for the season at home (58-63), and would need to go 6-1 at home in Week 17 just to break even for the year. Only one NFC team (Chicago at 6-1) is more than two games over .500 at home, and just five have winning records playing in front of their own fans.

• Through Week 16, eight of the top nine teams in terms of strength of schedule reside in the AFC, with the Titans, Bills and Bengals leading the way, and only the Giants at No. 4 bucking the trend. At Nos. 5-9 are the Broncos, Colts, Dolphins, Jaguars and Patriots. Making the playoffs has been a real accomplishment in the AFC this season. Surviving the NFC regular season was an exercise in mediocrity.

• With just two interconference games remaining, the NFC is headed for its second-worst showing ever in the 37-year history of the series. The AFC leads 39-23 this season in games against the NFC, with only 2004's 44-20 domination topping that record. In the last three years, the NFC is 73-117 against the AFC, a .384 winning percentage. Among NFC teams, only Dallas put up a winning record (3-1) against AFC clubs.

The reasons for the NFC's pathetic showing are multiple, but it's hard to not start any explanation of the discrepancy at the quarterback position, which was hit with a conference-wide downturn in 2006. Have you noticed? While Brees has been a star, and Tony Romo and Rex Grossman had their big moments, the seasons turned in by Eli Manning, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck and Michael Vick have registered as underachievement on many fronts.:embarass:

Injuries derailed Donovan McNabb and Chris Simms, and veteran starters such as Brett Favre, Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell, Marc Bulger, Jon Kitna and Drew Bledsoe weren't capable of winning consistently. Newcomers Matt Leinart, Jason Campbell and Alex Smith offer hope, but have yet to fully develop. The AFC has the better quarterbacks -- Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Vince Young, Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger -- and its coaching roster looks far deeper too, with the likes of Bill Belichick, Mike Shanahan, Tony Dungy, Brian Billick, Bill Cowher, Jeff Fisher, Marty Schottenheimer, Marvin Lewis, Jack Del Rio and Eric Mangini leading the way.

Any way you cut it, it hasn't been pretty in the NFC this season, and there's little reason to believe the playoffs will offer a different story. In 2006, the NFC could have doubled as the NCF, because it featured so much Non Competitive Football.

Banks' Shots

• Will anyone be stunned if Nick Saban bolts Miami some time next week for the University of Alabama coaching job? They shouldn't be. Saban has repeatedly denied interest in the vacancy, but he's also the guy who told his LSU players he wasn't going anywhere in January 2005, 24 hours before taking the Dolphins job. If he can dissemble to that degree to players he recruited, he can come up with the reasoning he'll need to explain his reversal of field in this instance.

The Tide will take their best shot at him once the Dolphins conclude their regular season on Sunday at Indianapolis. Saban already started creating wiggle room this week, telling the Monday Night Football crew that he missed the teaching aspect of college coaching, and refusing to say he wouldn't listen to offers from Alabama at the end of Miami's season.

League sources I talk to indicate that Saban isn't exactly in love with the NFL coaching lifestyle, and may not be convinced that Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga will own the team indefinitely. If he does go back to the college ranks, some in the Miami organization won't miss Saban and his penchant for controlling all things relating to the Dolphins, a style that produced the "The Nick-tator'' moniker.

• With their run defense a shambles, and the Colts losing all three of their division road games -- at Tennessee, at Jacksonville and at Houston -- all the hand-wringing in Indianapolis is well-founded.

But it is possible we're all over-dramatizing the state of affairs for Tony Dungy's team, which lost on a last-second 60-yard field goal at Tennessee and a 48-yarder at Houston. The Colts, in other words, were dangerously close to being 13-2 and entering Week 17 in possession of the AFC's No. 1 seed, based on a better conference record than San Diego.

Just a reminder that sometimes when it seems like the sky is falling, it's actually a case of low-level clouds.

• Once again, Tom Brady isn't going to win the NFL's MVP award this season, and it occurs to me that some day we're going to look back and marvel how it is that the game's winningiest quarterback -- the Joe Montana of his time -- never took home the hardware, or even finished runner-up to the winner.

Brady's team is going to again win 11 or 12 games, and this time the Patriots are going to do it with a virtual minor-league receiving corps, and a running game that has been both reliable and productive only about two-thirds of the time.

The stunning thing is, Brady isn't even mentioned in this year's MVP debate, with LaDainian Tomlinson, Drew Brees and Peyton Manning getting all the buzz. Even Tony Romo sparked some MVP talk in early December. Brady didn't even make the AFC Pro Bowl roster, losing out to the likes Philip Rivers of San Diego. How does that happen?

Brady's lack of monster statistics will always hamper him, but who this season has done more with less to work with on offense? He's the NFL's equivalent of Hollywood director Robert Altman, who went 0-for-5 in terms of winning the Oscar as Best Director, but eventually received a lifetime achievement Academy Award.

• That said, I have one of the 50 votes in the Associated Press' coach and player awards, and here's how I have my ballot filled out pending the results of Week 17:

MVP -- Tomlinson, based on both his value to the Chargers' 13-2 season and his overwhelming record-breaking performance.

Offensive Player -- Drew Brees. His 4,372 yards passing lead the league, and his NFC-best 26 touchdowns and 96.1 rating make him deserving of an honor all his own.

Defensive Player -- Shawne Merriman. The San Diego linebacker is the most disruptive defensive force in the league. His four-game suspension hurt him, but as the current rules are written, it did not disqualify him.

Comeback Player -- Chad Pennington, because no one has overcome more to enjoy renewed success. Pennington's two shoulder surgeries beat out Brees' one.

Offensive Rookie -- Marcus McNeill. Deserving skill-player candidates for this honor were everywhere. But the job turned in by the Chargers' offensive left tackle is even more impressive and should not be overlooked.

Defensive Rookie -- DeMeco Ryans. The Houston linebacker was a play-maker from start to finish in 2006.

Coach -- Eric Mangini. The Jets started the season with a question mark at quarterback, no discernible running game, and the youngest head coach in the NFL, who had never been the top man anywhere but for a semipro team in Australia. Kudos to Sean Payton of the Saints, whose turnaround was inspiring, but Mangini is going to go 10-6 and make the playoffs in the NFL's best conference.

• The Giants yanking the play-calling duties away from offensive coordinator John Hufnagel and giving them to Kevin Gilbride for the final week of the regular season is one of the more obvious desperation moves in recent memory. Tom Coughlin said Hufnagel isn't a scapegoat, but if it looks like a scapegoat, and smells like a scapegoat, it's probably a scapegoat. If Coughlin was going to make the move in an attempt to jumpstart Eli Manning's faltering game, it seems to me he waited about six weeks too long.

• I'm not saying Jason Taylor doesn't have a point about Shawne Merriman and his candidacy for Defensive Player of the Year. If Merriman wins, it's valid to question whether it sends the wrong message, in light of his four-game suspension for steroid use. I don't think you can penalize him until the rules say he's ineligible for such an honor, but I respect the opposing opinion.

Rightly or wrongly, however, Taylor comes off a bit diminished in my book for being the one who led the anti-Merriman campaign, given his status as one of the favorites for the award.

• Ditto for Jim Mora, taking the time this week to extol his accomplishments as Falcons head coach to the media. Let someone else make those points, coach. It's impossible to not sound like you're in a defensive crouch, worrying about your job, when you're reminding everyone that you own the most wins in the NFC South over the past three years


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I really hope this happens and the Giants lose to the Redskins saturday that way we can see the Packers and Favre in the playoffs. and if they played a team like the Eagles in the 1st round anything can happen.
I wish he retired already. It seems for the last five years he's wanted to retire. And you better pray the Packers don't play the Eagles in the playoffs because Garcia, although an effiminate fag, is money.
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