World Cup 2018 Russia - Group D - Game 3 - Iceland v HRVATSKA - June 25th, 2018 - Page 2 - Xtratime Community
View Poll Results: Who will win this World Cup 2018 Russia Group D match?
Iceland by 1 goal 1 8.33%
Scoreless Draw 1 8.33%
Draw with goals (1-1, 2-2, etc) 2 16.67%
HRVATSKA by 1 goal 3 25.00%
HRVATSKA by 2 goals 5 41.67%
HRVATSKA by 3+ goals 0 0%
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post #21 of 144 (permalink) Old June 23rd, 2018, 11:49
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I think it’s a stretch to conclude that we’ll lose our edge simply because of what happened in ‘08 and ‘16. Each game coming will be a final and every advantage you can take should be exploited to the fullest IMO.

In any event, Dalic is surrounded by experienced people who will know what and how the players will be feeling. I’m confident that he’ll do what’s best.
...mate but there is a pattern there, surely when one takes analytics into consideration all aspects are important, I would definitely not repeat that strategy again if it was detrimental twice before to THIS generation of players ... rest a few but not the whole lineup
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Just rest all the players on yellows.

Jedvaj for Vrsaljko
Badelj for Brozovic who's suspended anyway
Kovacic for Rakitic and bring Rakitic (or Bradaric) on in the 2nd half to rest Modric
Pjaca for Rebic
Kramaric for Mandzukic

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I am so happy that the boys are finally gelled and playing as a team rather than individuals! All the facebook/twitter posts have #family and everyone happy to be with each other (except Kalinić of course), and on the pitch the communication and switching of places/roles or covering each other has been great to see. For me it seems like it was like this in 96 & 98, and then again in 2008 but not really since, not to the same degree anyways


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what do you guys think of the rumored lineup ? :

Kalinic
jedvaj - corluka - caleta-car - pivaric
bradaric - badelj
pjaca - kovacic - perisic
kramaric

ive been having this discussion at work. do you play "your team" and keep them in form ?
Or prepare your bench players for the later rounds and not have them come in cold when needed.

Both seem to have good arguments.

Sorry, just read the first page of this thread.
I agree with ero and SLF. I think the core of the team should play.
right now the core at least is:

vrslajko - Lovren - Vida - strinic
Modric - Perisic
mandzukic

yellow cards do scare me for the next round...

dont know what to think really...
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what do you guys think of the rumored lineup ? :

Kalinic
jedvaj - corluka - caleta-car - pivaric
bradaric - badelj
pjaca - kovacic - perisic
kramaric

ive been having this discussion at work. do you play "your team" and keep them in form ?
Or prepare your bench players for the later rounds and not have them come in cold when needed.

Both seem to have good arguments.

Sorry, just read the first page of this thread.
I agree with ero and SLF. I think the core of the team should play.
right now the core at least is:

Lovren - Vida - strinic
Modric - Perisic
mandzukic

yellow cards do scare me for the next round...

dont know what to think really...
I think we should have taken Rog instead of Bradaric.

Well you just need something to fill the void that's left in your life. Lois has her knitting, Chris has his video games, Meg's learning how to drive, and me, I like the sauce…
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"Imamo energije, vjerujemo u sebe i došlo je vrijeme da odrastemo i napravimo korak više. Više nije dovoljno pobijediti Španjolsku ili Argentinu. Nije bilo velikog slavlja nakon pobjede protiv Argentine, mislimo na Island i drugu fazu."

- Vedran Ćorluka

Exactly!!!!!! Stay focused, one game at a time!!
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what do you guys think of the rumored lineup ? :

Kalinic
jedvaj - corluka - caleta-car - pivaric
bradaric - badelj
pjaca - kovacic - perisic
kramaric

ive been having this discussion at work. do you play "your team" and keep them in form ?
Or prepare your bench players for the later rounds and not have them come in cold when needed.

Both seem to have good arguments.

Sorry, just read the first page of this thread.
I agree with ero and SLF. I think the core of the team should play.
right now the core at least is:

vrslajko - Lovren - Vida - strinic
Modric - Perisic
mandzukic

yellow cards do scare me for the next round...

dont know what to think really...

Have absolutely no problems with that B team lineup. I'm not buying this form continuation business. Our guys are professionals in their prime who have played together for close to a decade now plus they're coming off long seasons with their clubs. They need all the rest they can get especially if we want to go far. Also let's not forget Iceland has everything to play for. It's going to be a tough and physical match so why should we risk injuries to key players when our B team is more than capable of beating Iceland.
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24sata reports it will be a mixed team, basically the guys on yellows + Rebic will not play but players like Vida, Perisic and to a lesser extent Kramaric will retain their starting spots. Its possible even Vida sits for Caleta-Car but this looks likely the lineup, doubt Modric plays but 24sata says its a possibility rather than Bradaric

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24sata reports it will be a mixed team, basically the guys on yellows + Rebic will not play but players like Vida, Perisic and to a lesser extent Kramaric will retain their starting spots. Its possible even Vida sits for Caleta-Car but this looks likely the lineup, doubt Modric plays but 24sata says its a possibility rather than Bradaric

Kalinic
Jedvaj-Corluka-Vida-Pivaric
Kovacic-Badelj-Bradaric
Pjaca-Kramaric-Perisic
Our B team looks very good and strong ! I'm really excited to see what they can do !!

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Have absolutely no problems with that B team lineup. I'm not buying this form continuation business. Our guys are professionals in their prime who have played together for close to a decade now plus they're coming off long seasons with their clubs. They need all the rest they can get especially if we want to go far. Also let's not forget Iceland has everything to play for. It's going to be a tough and physical match so why should we risk injuries to key players when our B team is more than capable of beating Iceland.
.... check out the final paragraph in Slaven Bilic interview in today's online SN ....

https://sportske.jutarnji.hr/rusija2...-samo/7515408/

Gdje možemo? Eto, to je ona euforija koju smatram negativnom. Ima toliko pozitive iz ova dva dvoboja, pogotovo s Argentinom i možemo o tome pričati euforično ali samo u kontekstu idućeg izazova koji se zove Island.

Galamiti kako smo sada sposobni za tko zna što samo je šteta. Kalkulirati? Nisam pametan sto se tog tiče. Podsjetit ću, na EP-u 2008, uz nas su prolaz nakon druge utakmice grupe ostvarili Nizozemska i Portugal. No, u polufinale su nakon toga išli Turska, Rusija i Njemačka koje su treću utakmicu morale igrati za plasman u četvrtfinale, i nisu odmarali igrače. Je li to slučajnost ili nije ne znam, ali je dobro imati na umu.
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I like the line up if Modrić plays...

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24sata reports it will be a mixed team, basically the guys on yellows + Rebic will not play but players like Vida, Perisic and to a lesser extent Kramaric will retain their starting spots. Its possible even Vida sits for Caleta-Car but this looks likely the lineup, doubt Modric plays but 24sata says its a possibility rather than Bradaric

Kalinic
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Kovacic-Badelj-Bradaric
Pjaca-Kramaric-Perisic
.... maybe keep Strinic in the LB position too ...
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Ljudi moji ..... iskustvo dosad kaže.. svaki put kad smo poslje prva dvije utakmice osigurali prolaz dalje ,i u trećoj utakmici skupne faze išli odmarati najbolje igrali sa rezervistima /Portugal ep 1996,Poljska ep 2008,Španjolska ep 2016/ u sljedećoj utakmici bila je eliminacija /Njemačka,Turska,Portugal/.Jedino na sp 1998 kad smo osigurali prolaz dalje .u srazu sa Argetinom,Ćiro nije puno mjenjao /opecen iskustvom sa ep 1996/.Kontra gaučosa u Bordeauxu igrali su :,Ladić,Marić/Valović/,Jarni,Šimić,Soldo,Bilić,Asanović,Prosinečki/Štimac/,Šuker,Boban,Stanić..dakle kod najboljih/najuspesnijih vatreni,nije bilo odmaranja .....
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Ljudi moji ..... iskustvo dosad kaže.. svaki put kad smo poslje prva dvije utakmice osigurali prolaz dalje ,i u trećoj utakmici skupne faze išli odmarati najbolje igrali sa rezervistima /Portugal ep 1996,Poljska ep 2008,Španjolska ep 2016/ u sljedećoj utakmici bila je eliminacija /Njemačka,Turska,Portugal/.Jedino na sp 1998 kad smo osigurali prolaz dalje .u srazu sa Argetinom,Ćiro nije puno mjenjao /opecen iskustvom sa ep 1996/.Kontra gaučosa u Bordeauxu igrali su :,Ladić,Marić/Valović/,Jarni,Šimić,Soldo,Bilić,Asanović,Prosinečki/Štimac/,Šuker,Boban,Stanić..dakle kod najboljih/najuspesnijih vatreni,nije bilo odmaranja .....
Just down to dumb luck if you ask me. I'd rather not risk injury to someone like Modric especially against an Iceland team who have everything to play for.
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Just down to dumb luck if you ask me. I'd rather not risk injury to someone like Modric especially against an Iceland team who have everything to play for.
I totally agree ! Plus in 2008, Turkey and Russia didn't have a player like Modric who has played a CL final, with an intense regularity/presence inside the Real Madrid team.

Modric had a tough season and he had some little injuries during this same season. I really think that it would be stupid to lost him against an Iceland team who will be aggressive in the duels because they want to qualify at all prices.

A mixed team is the better way to approach this match and yes, I really think that our best players need to be rested. And now, with the Kalinic absence, we need to be smart with our strikers because, a simple injury for Mandzukic or Kramaric, and it would be a disaster !

Look at Rebic who had a knock with Mercado... I couldn't imagine a match without him, he's really important for our impact on the wings !

Ok, we have a good B team but on this bench, there is not many solutions if we have an injury.

The better example is how Kovacic took the Perisic place in the end of the match against Argentina. Our chance is to have some players who are able to play in some different positions on the pitch. But this is too risky to play with our best players, for example look at Kramaric, he's the only sub for Mandzukic, but he's also the only sub with Pjaca for the Rebic and Perisic position.

The win is important against Iceland but at my eyes, this is clearly too risky for some players to play this match.

We need a team who is fully fit.
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Mora podić formu, bio je jako loš protiv Argentine, 4 puta zaredom izgubio loptu zbog glupih odluka.
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