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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old March 27th, 2011, 21:28 Thread Starter
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Our Next Generation

Reconstruction: Time to think who's going to represent us for WC2014

Who should be called up for our next campaign? Who should be left behind? Why?

My opinions:

Tata, Panti and Lung are what we have.

Chivu has shown he has no more incentive to play for the NT: Goodbye
Radu Stefan: the mainstay of our defense for the next decade: Welcome
Rat has also shown he's still ready to play for us anytime: Welcome back
Goian: the best defender in the past decade (yes, better than Chivu): Welcome back
Tamas: he's still sort of young and of reasonable quality: Welcome back
Sapunaru: despite his injuries he's our best RB no doubt: Welcome back
Maftei: reached the end of his NT career: Goodbye
Rapa: Our up-and-coming RB: Welcome back
Papp, Gaman, Barboianu: Welcome to the NT squad (provided they play well, of course)

Gardos: Hellz yeah, very classy player; I see him as an excellent DM for the future. I like him more in that position
Alexa: Sorry, dude, you have to go, you only do well in friendlies
Bourceanu: you're the next Alexa, welcome home
Floare: would you please go play for FC Yakutsk so we never hear of you again?
Muresan: Our main DM for the future, welcome back
Ropotan: As a back-up.
Lazar: Provided there's a reason to call him up, welcome back.

Torje: No explanation needed, really, welcome back
Deac: Provided he plays he gets another chance, welcome back
Zicu: Welcome back
Mutu: Welcome back, you've still got a point to prove
Sanmartean: A must have at least for this campaign
Varga: I'm sure he'll do well for Kuban, welcome (back)
Cocis: Bye-bye, you've passed your time of usefulness

Marica: welcome back
Stancu: welcome back

2 strikers: missing in action... any thoughts?


Standard team:
----------------------------Tatarusanu

Sapunaru--------Goian-----------------Radu---------------Rat

-----------------Muresan---------------Gardos

-Torje------------------------Zicu---------------------------Mutu
----------------------------(Stancu)
-----------------------------Marica


or
----------------------------Tatarusanu

Sapunaru--------Goian-----------------Radu---------------Rat

-----------------------------Muresan

-Torje---------Sanmartean-------------Zicu--------------Mutu

-----------------------------Marica (Stancu)

Depending on our opponent
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old March 27th, 2011, 22:11
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When Marinescu gets the possibility of being important at Steaua, he should be considered too. Sorry if I insist too much with him but we are SO BAD in midfield that any new option there is interesting. Marinescu is not perfect but knows how to control a ball, how to dribble and how to make a pass, you know, all those basical things that our NT current players don´t know how to do. I'm not a big fan of Bicfalvi but he should be prefered over the old Alexa. At least he's young and can progress. Popa and Hoban could be selected at some point and when they are in good form. I don´t care anymore in which team they play; we have played an official game with a guy without team, so the next is always an improvement.

Sanmartean. It's vomitive that a player like him never got a chance while others like Florescu or Cocis get ethernal chances. Nobody in the press talk about his constant absence in the NT, people in Romania see it as normal. If someone believes that he doesn´t make defensive tasks I'll say that that's a BIG URBAN LEGEND. Actually Sanmartean is always worker in the pressing, and he does it quite well. I see no reason to not consider him, especially given the fact that with the ball he can kill any defender in a concrete moment. He's 30-31, it's now or never for him. I can say the same about Cernat.


We can try to make Radu our next Chivu in the NT if Chivu finally retires. The guy has personality and is used to play in football of big exigence. I'd count with Mutu as long as he's in good form and wishes to play with the NT.


About the strikers we still have to see how develope some of them. Alexe is interesting, but we need a pure number 9, a goalscorer, a Raducioiu or Moldovan.
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we have a lot of wild cards where only time can tell. it's wasted time to speculate who could be our up and coming stars who can solve our problems on some positions...in the end it's often somebody with whom you doesn't even counted with.

i'll keep on waiting for the day when some smart people are leading our football...only then we can blame the players and question our talent and potential if we still suck.
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Core of players:

GKs: Pantilimon, Tatarusanu, Lung

Defenders: Sapunaru, Rapa, Matel*, Tamas, Goian, Gardos*, Papp, Gaman, Radu, Rat, Barboianu and one more LB like for example Latovlevici, Sepsi or Pulhac.

Midfielders: Torje, Nicolita, Goga, Muresan, Ropotan, Lazar, Bourceanu, Bicfalvi, Marinescu, Popa, Hoban, Tanase, Deac, Varga, Sanmartean, Zicu, Cernat, Herea, Parvulescu.

Strikers: Marica, Stancu, Costea (I hope he recovers his highest form some day), Alexe, L.Ganea, Mutu, Sburlea, Hora, Axente. Andrei Cristea and Jula could be added.






*: They can be considered midfielders too.

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Damn I was thinking that even Bajenaru from Gloria Bistrita has more vision than the whole NT midfield...
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Nicolita? What's he got better than Cocis? Will he scare the opposing players or something?

TBH, I still rate Roman better than Nicolita as back-up to RM.

You're right about Bajenaru though
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i'd prefer Nicolita over Roman but i wouldn't call both

i'd also cross out Jula, Bicfalvi and even Tamas, atleast in the long run
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I don´t. I rate Nicolita over Roman. In fact, I think Nicolita is quite decent in the role he has to be assigned for. The problem with Nicolita is when you ask him things he can´t do.

He runs like a horse and has international experience. Useful in some concrete games.
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Interesting... How about Deac vs Nicolita as RM, assuming Deac plays well (even for CFR if he returns)? Varga can also do the right attacking mid role, even if he prefers the left.

Szekely vs Nicolita?
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I wanna see how Szekely ends this season.

Deac and Varga can play on the right yeah. But I limited the RM thing to right footed players.

There are 1000 options and alternatives that could be tested in these last 2 years, but Razvan insisted always in the same.
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There are 1000 options and alternatives that could be tested in these last 2 years, but Razvan insisted always in the same.
yeah, because "never change a winning team" hehe
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The players are fine. We have good keepers, we can have a great defense. there are plenty of good players for the wingsa, and altough the strikers are few they are very good(Mutu, Marica, Stancu)

There are also a couple of players who can grow a lot and raise the quality, like Alexe or Alibec.
The only real problem is the central midfield, as aside from Muresan we don´t have much more. We would have to make tests with Sanmartean, Popa, Nicu, Prepelita, Tanase, Herea, Marinescu, Radut, Ologu and every suitable player, until we find someone that can hold the ball and make a pass.

The rest is up to a good coach cause the quality is there.
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My 30 man squad right now (excluding any of the 6-7 injuries before any respectable NT match):

Pantilimon
Tatarusanu
Lung Jr

Sapunaru
Rapa
Barboianu
Goian
Radu
Papp
Gaman
Rat
Sepsi/Latovlevici

Chivu
Muresan
Lazar
Gardos
Bourceanu

Sanmartean
Zicu
Marinescu
Goga
Torje
Varga
Tanase
Hora

Mutu

Marica
Axente
Stancu
Alexe


There are some choices even in this thread I disagree with, such as Bicfalvi and Nicolita. For example Burdujan is a Nicolita+, but without the constant running (B's faster though) and he's a difficult character.

That said, in the NT, the best players should be called up. As long as you give 100% of what you can for the NT I don't care how much you drink and smoke. If you can't run after the 60th minute because of this... well, **** off

First of all, I'd look at percentage of completed passes and percentage of forward passes (for midfielders, of course). For example, Nicolita is somewhere towards the middle there at LIGA I standards. Personally I like Spain's style of play (not so much their WC scorelines)... But you can't do that with Nicolitas and Ropotans, can you? No one's calling Ropotan the new Xavi. There's a reason for that. It has something to do with his near zero pass completion rate

Second of all, looking at who's suspended for a couple of games and saying "you can't come to the squad" is bullshit given the excellent quality of Romanian refs. That said people like Bourceanu and Alexa should take it a bit easier, man. Chill out.

Age? All things being equal, younger players. All things are never equal, so there isn't a set age limit or anything... This whole 'generation' talk is just blowing smoke up one's ass really; don't tell me Romania 2004 is the same 'generation' as Romania 2008 (quite a short period) aside from Mutu and Chivu and well that's about it, really.
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If we look at it this way, we've got quite good young players.

A team with under-26 players:

Pantilimon (25)
Lung jr (23)
Balgradean (24)

Radu Stefan (25)
Parvulescu (24)
Gaman (23)
Chiriches (22)
Papp (22)
Matel (22)
Rapa (22)

Nistor (24)
Radut (22)
Stanciu (19)
Torje (22)
Antal (23)
Maxim (22)
Adi Popa (24)

Stancu (25)
Tucudean (21)
Grozav (21)
Rusescu (24)

If we add a few older players like Sapunaru, Rat, Goian/Tamas... Muresan/Lazar, Sanmartean/Cernat... Mutu and Marica/M. Niculae... we should be set. But... eternally hoping.
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We lack real strikers and poachers. We should honestly play a 4-5-1 with these players if this were the squad and I'd replace Tucudean with Matei and Rusescu with Iancu
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