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Yes, I want Mutu in the NT 14 73.68%
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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old January 15th, 2010, 00:15 Thread Starter
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Mutu yes, Mutu no

Right now the big question in the NT is very clear: should Razvan Lucescu count with him? Or do you consider him a bad influence and a nuisance for the rest of players (especially the young ones)?

At this moment, Razvan seems decided to not call Mutu again.

The sinister Ioan Becali even says that Razvan can be forced by Sandu to not call him
http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/i...tu-171490.html

I´d never believe what someone called Becali says but when you read Sandu saying that "Mutu and Chivu don´t have a good relation" you can put two and two together. I don´t think the FRF president should say these things.

Mutu is little by little scoring goals and playing well again. Can Romania take the luxury of not counting with him?
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Romania has no luxury at all right now. We're in a situation where we play ultra defensive football and lack the class upfront to take advantage of the few chances we might get. We need a player like Mutu because we have no real replacement for him. Tanase is a midfielder and Costea can't do what Mutu does. We need Mutu but we shouldn't put everything in his hands and this is where our coaches failed so far.

Mutu can't carry our team on his back in every friggin game. It's impossible... but without him we simply have no one who can surprise the opponent unless we change our approach.


So I would count on him but I'd seriously rethink our tactics or else he'll be made the scapegoat yet again.

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Tanase is a midfielder and Costea can't do what Mutu does.
Costea is a Mutu case in a lesser extent, because he isn´t called by Razvan, not even when he scores goal after goal.


The question here is serious. Maybe more serious than we think, because I think this case must be solved before the start of the next qualifiers. If (let´s suppose) Mutu keeps scoring and playing well and Razvan doesn´t call him, I don´t know how this will end, because it´s difficult that we can perform without our only proven world class striker.


If we fail with Mutu, Razvan will have problems.

If we fail without Mutu, Razvan will be eaten alive.


He should think carefully what he does in this case. I always say the same: discipline is necessary, but never against the interest of the team.
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Leaving Mutu out of your NT would be like leaving Ibrahimovic out of the Swedish NT. Good in theory, horrible in reality. He is far far too good, compared to the alternatives, to leave out.

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Leaving Mutu out of your NT would be like leaving Ibrahimovic out of the Swedish NT. Good in theory, horrible in reality. He is far far too good, compared to the alternatives, to leave out.
I fully agree, besides the transgressions that Mutu made seem to be pretty trivial really. If he's playing well, and if he's producing for the NT, then to leave him out would be the very definition of being a dumb stubborn bastard on R. Lucescu's part.
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the real issue is... I repeat... the way we use Mutu... if we continued to play him to be our hero then we'll get torn apart again.

I say we should try a balanced 1st XI and see what happens:

--------------------Panti
Maftei-------Constantin---Chivu------Rat
-------------Bourceanu----Muresan
Costea--------------Sanmartean----Mutu
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It's quite the luxury to snub Mutu. Not as big as the Trapattoni vs Baggio story, but still big p

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Boloni: "Razvan will call Mutu again"
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We are going trough one of the worst periods i remember, maybe the worst. If we look carefully we can see that Mutu is 100 times better and reliable than any other option. Now that Mutu is scoring again(and in what way) this becomes ridiculously clear. Coming from Mutu we know that this isn´t just a streak, he´s done it dozens of times. We need to take advantage of this before he gets too old (he turned 31).
His scandals are considerable but not really outstanding, and i´ve never doubted his devotion to the team judging from what we saw on the pitch.

If some players don´t develop we really risk becoming a third class team, as we have terribly slim options. Mutu has been warned and should be controlled properly, but we can´t leave him out. As PMC says we need a better approach, for example including more offensive players than before to help Mutu in the creativity. This could be done with guys like Tanase, Ghioane, Sanmartean, Varga, Torje or Roman to avoid giving him so much responsability.
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Mutu has tested positive for doping in Seria A, apperently during some tests after the match against Bari. A very long ban is to be expected (ProSport are saying 4 years ban), might be a career ending story this time.

Looks like Lucescu was right all along, once an asshole...always an asshole, to bad I always defended this dipshit, well no more.

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Hey guys, I read Mutu tested positive in a doping control test. Will this further alienate him from being in the new coaches plans.?
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I wouldn't condemn him yet. Let justice do its work and we'll see what happens.

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I play college level soccer and we are regularly informed about these kind of drugs, Its weird because sibutramine is used as a weight loss drug but its widely known in the athletic community that it is not very effective for athletes themselves to get rid of those few pounds. I find it a little odd that mutu had this in his system and I am more skeptical of the media scewing this story than mutu engaging in that kind of drug. Its also pretty widely known that it has been completely banned in the UK and EU. I wouldnt understand the nature of Mutu's decision in taking this kind of drug... this is not the way to lose weight as an athlete.
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Medicul sportiv Piero Volpi, care în trecut a fost angajat al clubului Internazionale Milano, a declarat joi că Adrian Mutu s-a dopat iraţional, deoarece sibutramina nu aduce niciun beneficiu.

"Mutu s-a dopat iraţional, deoarece sibutramina nu aduce niciun beneficiu. Sibutramina este o substanţă care este prescrisă pentru a reduce senzaţia de foame. Mi se pare anormal ca Mutu să folosească sibutramina, pentru că nu văd de ce avea nevoie de această substanţă. Este o eraore din partea jucătorului şi ar putea fi suspendat de WADA, care este extrem de severă în astfel de cazuri. Nu pot înţelege de ce a luat acest produs. Jucătorul nu îşi putea îmbunătăţi prestaţiile din teren cu ajutorul acestei substanţe", a spus Volpi.

It´s a strange case because that substance don´t improve sports performances. Many medicaments have sibutramine, so let´s see what happened there.

Damn, this could be the final act for Mutu.
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Incredible...what´s clear is that this has nothing to do with cocaine. It´s something of a totally different nature. It´s very strange cause Mutu never had weight problems. I hope this isn´t the end
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Surse din cadrul FRF susţin că Mutu poate scăpa de suspendare

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Incredible...what´s clear is that this has nothing to do with cocaine. It´s something of a totally different nature. It´s very strange cause Mutu never had weight problems. I hope this isn´t the end
Not quite. You see, cocaine is also used as a 'cure' for hunger and causes weight loss. Sibutramine has the same properties, it's a dopamine and serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Chemically, the two substances may not be similar, but they are somewhat similar in effects.

He can not afford to make mistakes like this... I'm still not sure what happened here...
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What a dummy. Once a doper, always a doper. Get him out of our sport.

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And every time there are bad news about him you appear here. We don´t see you around here when he scores goals


Foresta, I tend to think it was an 'accident' more than anything.

http://www.prosport.ro/fotbal-extern...omania-5455271


Mutu are şanse să scape nepedepsit: "Pe prospect scria că e medicament natural"
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I'm not saying he did it on purpose. However, that fact will count against him during sentencing. It looks very very bad, even if it was an accident.

I hope no suspension will happen.
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