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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old October 11th, 2009, 14:49 Thread Starter
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Do you want Razvan Lucescu to stay as NT coach?

Making a poll to see what people think: should he given more chances or should we sack him before the start of the next campaign?

Sack Lucescu until it's too late
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post #2 of 43 (permalink) Old October 11th, 2009, 17:32
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I go with him by now. But he obviously has to change many things.
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I'm against keeping him... his favouritism and approach is very Piturca-esque minus the good periods. The mistakes vs France and Serbia indicate that he's not using logic in his selections

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He should leave on his own.
The only Romanian coach that can turn this around is Dan Petrescu!
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post #5 of 43 (permalink) Old October 11th, 2009, 21:27
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We need a foreign coach. Now.
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We need a foreign coach. Now.
that was gonna be my other choice...the problrm is frf would rather spend the money on other things...noone knows what
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Dan Petrescu gameplan is very similar to Razvan. He´s doing very well at Urziceni, but the NT is something different.

About a foreign coah, who? Bergodi?
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post #8 of 43 (permalink) Old October 11th, 2009, 23:52 Thread Starter
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Whoever comes can't be worse than him, our NT has reached an absolute low. Just sack him.

Sack Lucescu until it's too late
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post #9 of 43 (permalink) Old October 12th, 2009, 00:20
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Razvan proved in Belgrade that he's not a good coach.

Yeah, sure, the players also ****ed-up, no one doubts that, but Razvan has absolutely no tactical instructions it seems like. There are three to blame for this outrage: MUTU, CHIVU (who ****ed up on goals 2 and 3) and LUCESCU (Goian for Marica... really?)

How can you start with Radoi against a 2,02 player when you have Goian, and when the game starts opening up at 2-0 you put Goian in, who cannot defend that well against low balls, which the Serbians started using when they realized it's easier against Romania than against any other team in Europe.

Mutu should be out, I'm sorry to say it, for he's a good player, but to even compare him to Hagi is to do the universe a direct insult. Mutu, if you don't want to play against the Faroes, **** OFF! It's a shame, because you could've helped the team, but elected not do so. **** YOU, Mutu! You don't have the weight of 17 million Euros on your shoulder and what do you do? You party! **** you, we don't need your kind. And take your doppelganger from Iasi with you.

Chivu, I hope for you you're just in a bad phase. Because if this happens again, even once, you should also be out. Seriously. The worst match I've ever seen by a Romania captain was the one in Serbia. I don't want to see such things ever again.

Lucescu, you went so wrong somewhere along the way... I did not ever think I'd be missing Piturca. It's obvious a Romanian coach can't do shit with this team.
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Razvan proved in Belgrade that he's not a good coach.

Yeah, sure, the players also ****ed-up, no one doubts that, but Razvan has absolutely no tactical instructions it seems like. There are three to blame for this outrage: MUTU, CHIVU (who ****ed up on goals 2 and 3) and LUCESCU (Goian for Marica... really?)

How can you start with Radoi against a 2,02 player when you have Goian, and when the game starts opening up at 2-0 you put Goian in, who cannot defend that well against low balls, which the Serbians started using when they realized it's easier against Romania than against any other team in Europe.

Mutu should be out, I'm sorry to say it, for he's a good player, but to even compare him to Hagi is to do the universe a direct insult. Mutu, if you don't want to play against the Faroes, **** OFF! It's a shame, because you could've helped the team, but elected not do so. **** YOU, Mutu! You don't have the weight of 17 million Euros on your shoulder and what do you do? You party! **** you, we don't need your kind. And take your doppelganger from Iasi with you.

Chivu, I hope for you you're just in a bad phase. Because if this happens again, even once, you should also be out. Seriously. The worst match I've ever seen by a Romania captain was the one in Serbia. I don't want to see such things ever again.

Lucescu, you went so wrong somewhere along the way... I did not ever think I'd be missing Piturca. It's obvious a Romanian coach can't do shit with this team.
I agree 100%. At least Piturca knew how and when to use Goian and Ovidiu Petre and even Tamas against tall players like the Czechs and even the Dutch (in Constanta). Razvan's squad made no sense whatsoever...And taking out Marica and Mutu was retarded (even if Mutu was crap he still had the best chances).

And oh my god introduce Bucur? Poor guy what the hell was he supposed to do?
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I don't get why was he hired in the first place?
I actually agree, I mean he's a good prospect but he is way to green and hasn't had a solid enough record in my opinion to be given the National Team.

I'm split on whether or not he should be given the boot. I don't think he should be fired only because of this last result necessarily because it seems like the players were not in their right mind for this one (although one can argue that whenever you put on the NT shirt, you better get your mind damn straight and go out there to win and take no prisoners), but if you look at the way the team has played under R. Lucescu, even during the couple games that we won, against modest opposition by the way, the team looked really bad, almost amateurish. And apropos this last game, I can't imagine Lucescu senior "leading" the team to a 0-5 loss.

So honestly, the more I think about it the more I think he ought to be sacked. Wouldn't it be grand if the FRF stopped its dickin' around and hired a solid coach, with a history of results; that way even if the team screws the pooch in a few games, at least you know it is more likely the inability of the players and not due to ridiculous selection and tactical mistakes by the coach. But I don't think the FRF has the money for a truly world class coach unfortunately, and so I think we're always going to half a$$ it when it comes to getting a manager
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I think Razvan Lucescu was simply overwhelmed in that situation as he probably never experienced something like this before.

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As I said this is strike one for Lucescu. (but it feels like strike two)

IF he kicks out Mutu and keeps Mara I don't want to see the guy's face again. Ever.

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Razvan proved in Belgrade that he's not a good coach.

Yeah, sure, the players also ****ed-up, no one doubts that, but Razvan has absolutely no tactical instructions it seems like. There are three to blame for this outrage: MUTU, CHIVU (who ****ed up on goals 2 and 3) and LUCESCU (Goian for Marica... really?)

How can you start with Radoi against a 2,02 player when you have Goian, and when the game starts opening up at 2-0 you put Goian in, who cannot defend that well against low balls, which the Serbians started using when they realized it's easier against Romania than against any other team in Europe.

Mutu should be out, I'm sorry to say it, for he's a good player, but to even compare him to Hagi is to do the universe a direct insult. Mutu, if you don't want to play against the Faroes, **** OFF! It's a shame, because you could've helped the team, but elected not do so. **** YOU, Mutu! You don't have the weight of 17 million Euros on your shoulder and what do you do? You party! **** you, we don't need your kind. And take your doppelganger from Iasi with you.
It wasn´t Goian for Marica. It was Bucur for Marica and Goian for Ghioane with Radoi going to midfield.

I think Lucescu has to stay for the moment. He was one of the few young romanian coaches with good results to choose from and he was a good choice. I won´t go back on my words there, he was clearly the best choice with Petrescu. But he took a team that realistically was out of the WC and it was really hard to motivate the team to play the remaining games. Normally it wouldn´t but romanian players only seem to do their best when they have a clear objective in front. Remember the pathetic game vs Bulgaria that would have got us in a totally different group for these qualifiers.
He made gross mistakes like his choice for the defence and his player selection with Surdu and the likes. But probably having little time to form a team he went for players he already knew. As i said before he is not leaving any stars out, he leaves out players like Costea, Sanmartean or Torje that are very talented but have their issues too.
Regarding the defence i can only imagine that he wanted a player with the personality of Radoi on the team. Radoi is after all a player of recognized quality who seems screwed up by his move to Arabia. On midfield he probably preferred The more talented Apostol and Ghioane.
I don´t think he is a bad coach, he is just messing up in a hard situation. I´m not trying to excuse him but i´m certain that the NT problems are far deeper than Lucescu´s mistakes. Now our players will need a lot of motivation and he should be able to provide that adding a better tactical approach and selection now that he´ll have more time to form the team for the next qualifiers. At the moment i don´t think many coaches could do much more. We have to recognize that our football is in a poor moment, our players are not doing anything abroad and the ones that play well are many times injured.

Regarding Mutu, it would be a mistake to drop him. I don´t know how much trouble he really creates in the team, but it´ll take years and maybe even decades to have an offensive player able to perform like him, and we would drop him while he can still do it. Brazil is full of conflictive players, divas and party animals and they do fine. But in our case the rest we have are miles ahead from his level.
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Plus we can´t change coachs every time they do something wrong, especially because a new coach doesn´t guarantee good results or good football. They have to learn from their mistakes too. Stability is needed. I´m sure he´s not that stubborn to not to learn a couple of things after a 5-0 defeat.

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Guys, what exactly happened with Mutu? I read that the NT coach decided not to call him anymore for some party some days ago??

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It´s not official as far as I know. But the coach is considering that.
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Guys, what exactly happened with Mutu? I read that the NT coach decided not to call him anymore for some party some days ago??
What i heard is that he was in a restaurant or a club till 2 AM. I wasn´t a party or anything that serious.
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And was it the night right before match against Serbia?

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