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post #1 of 333 (permalink) Old July 24th, 2009, 05:09 Thread Starter
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Magyarország 0-1 Romania || August Friendly Game || Ria Ria Romania!

The game is scheduled on 2009-08-12

Razvan reached a gentlemen's agreement with Prandelli and Mutu according to which Adi will be called only if fit. Also, Cr. Tanase could be replaced by Max Nicu.

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i don't consider it a good idea that Tanase loses his spot that quickly only because of the Arges incident. its just a friendly afterall.

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Razvan said that he would call Tanase even if he plays in Liga II.
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'Foreigners' called for this game:

Cristian Săpunaru (FC Porto), Mirel Rădoi (Al-Hilal), Cristian Chivu (Internazionale Milano), Răzvan Raţ (FC Şahtior Doneţk), Mihai Neşu (FC Utrecht), Tiberiu Ghioane (FC Dinamo Kiev), Paul Codrea (AC Siena), Maximilian Nicu (Hertha BSC), Adrian Mutu (Fiorentina AC) and Ciprian Marica (VfB Stuttgart).
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I'm surprised to see Rat there as he isn't fully fit

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I am shocked to see Paul Codrea called again. Didn't he prove so many times already that he is worthless?
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There is still 2 weeks or so for this game.

Codrea did well at Euro2008. Surely Razvan wants to test him.
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There is still 2 weeks or so for this game.

Codrea did well at Euro2008. Surely Razvan wants to test him.
Codrea didn't do well at the Euros. Beter said, he never did well.

Some players should never be called again, mainly Cocis and Codrea, but also others (Contra, F. Petre, etc).
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He did well, even if he´s not the great thing.

Actually he´s useful because tactically he´s better than most of midfielders in Romania. That´s what does to play a decade in Italy.


Anyway, we can say here what we would do and who we would call
https://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=235359

We all can complain, but we should say what other alternatives are.
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He did well, even if he´s not the great thing.

Actually he´s useful because tactically he´s better than most of midfielders in Romania. That´s what does to play a decade in Italy.


Anyway, we can say here what we would do and who we would call
https://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=235359

We all can complain, but we should say what other alternatives are.
I did post my thoughts in that topic too.

He is good "tactically"? Somehow people always say that about players that fail to perform. His task is to block opposing midfielders and contribute a bit to our own attacks. He does neither well.

I can give you at least 7 better alternatives for his position: Ghioane, Alexa, C. Lazar, Prepelita, Ropotan, Bourceanu, Stoica. Any of them is vastly superior to Codrea.
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Codrea is even in Italy considered one of the most aware players around... he sits in the middle of the park and distributes the balls and functions very well as collector and link up-guy.

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Oh, really? Perhaps you can remind me of one game when he actually played well for Romania. He can't pass accurately at more than 2m and ruins every attack when he gets the ball, while failing to at least perform well in blocking opposing midfielders.

Next, you guys will probably claim that Cocis is good as well.
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Oh, really? Perhaps you can remind me of one game when he actually played well for Romania. He can't pass accurately at more than 2m and ruins every attack when he gets the ball, while failing to at least perform well in blocking opposing midfielders.

Next, you guys will probably claim that Cocis is good as well.
Cocis is a different story... Codrea has played in the Serie A for years and he's a really good CM but he's a bid of a luxury player for a team that lacks a true playmaker like its the case in Romania.

He does the work that's not very visible

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Codrea is one of those invisible players. If you notice him, it's cause he did something wrong, but he does well in passing, destroying without him being overly noticed on the pitch. Compared to other Rom. players he played awesome in Euro2008, lol.

It's true, I feel there are better options, but as it has been said, he played for YEARS in Serie A. He's a good footballer. You know what to expect from him.

Cocis... Well, if he'd play 10 years in Serie A he might be useful. But he's not nearly close to that level.

Let's see:

Ghioane much better, indeed.
Alexa doesnt have the experience, but can be useful, as long as he doesn't kick anyone.
Lazar... Needs to be more constant, never performed for the NT.
Prepelita... Hmmm... Maybe, needs to be tested.
Ropotan... (Alexa+Bourceanu)/2
Bourceanu... No way. Potential though. Still needs to play more than 20 games in Liga I.
Stoica: I must withhold my laughter. Bad player at the NT level.

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At one point, last season, Codrea was one of the the players with most interceptions in Serie A, even more than Pirlo.

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It's true that you'll never see spectacular moves by Codrea, he'll never shine with a great dribble or an awesome tackle but he's almost mental at reading the game and intercepts many passes just by knowing how the game flows.

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Codrea is "invisible" alright, at least as a defensive player. You never notice him actually stopping any action of the opposition, because he doesn't stop any. Unfortunately, he is extremely visible when Romania attacks, as he fumbles even short passes as soon as he gets the ball, or he just gets rid of it by passing it back or sideways.

I asked above for an example of a good game made by him and you gave me none, I wonder why. Spare me of generalities like "he's good tactically", just point a game when he actually annihilated a good attacking midfielder from the opposing team.

Anyway, apparently he is considered to be good because he played for 10 years in Serie A. That is so irrelevant, as long as he never played well for Romania. A bad player remains a bad player, no matter where he plays.

Some of your arguments about the other options we have for his position are laughable.

Lazar never performed for the NT? How could he, since he was never given a real chance?

Alexa has plenty of league experience + some European experience, that is enough I'd say

Bourceanu - he didn't need more games to already show more potential and skill than Codrea did in all his years at the NT. Both him and Prepelita need a chance to show what they got.

Stoica - bad player because of what, one og in one game when Piturca played him out of position? In how many games did you actually see this guy play? I agree he is the worst alternative because of his age, but if we ever get desperate he is still miles better than Codrea. Not to mention he is one of the few current Romania players with some playmaking ability.

In any case, since many of you live abroad, I have the feeling you haven't seen much of the players in question.
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Dragos... maybe I live abroad but I can guarantee you that I've seen more romanian games last season than you did.

You want examples of good games of Codrea? EC vs Italy is one... he was absolutely crucial in that game and was one of the reasons Italy weren't able to tactically outsmart our midfield.

Players like Codrea do the "quiet" work... they close down gaps and keep a positional awareness throughout a game.

Did you watch Donezk vs Timisoara? Did you see that Timisoara just hoofed the ball upfield desperately because they had no one to pass to? None of the Donezk defenders did any spectacular move, their DMs covered the gaps and Timisoara had no options at all. This is what Codrea does very well and what most romanian footballers aren't capable of.

Bourceanu is a running mad man but he runs so much because he lacks the awareness of Codrea for example. Alexa the same.

Only Stoica and Ghioane are similar to Codrea in that aspect with the difference being that Codrea is one of the best in Italy.

Regarding Lazar... you really must have not watched him enough because despite him being the most skilled DM in Romania he does some terrible mistakes in many games and lacks concentration. He makes lots of bad passes and slows the game down in crucial moments. He hasn't been that great for Rapid at all last season and he's as dangerous upfront as Codrea for example.

But Dragos, I must admit... it took me years to figure out what Codrea is really doing to be rated highly. I didn't quite understand it either but then I specifically followed him in the game and realized that his job is quite important for a team.

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