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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old December 20th, 2005, 07:44 Thread Starter
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Should México abandon South American competitions?

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México podría abandonar la Libertadores
Según los directivos 'reciben maltratos'

MEXICO- Los directivos mexicanos podrían analizar su deserción de la Copa Libertadores y la Sudamericana, torneos en los cuales han tenido buenos resultados, pero son maltratados, según el presidente del club Cruz Azul, Guillermo Alvarez.

En declaraciones a los medios este lunes, Alvarez dijo que sería bueno analizar la permanencia en competencias en Suramérica, y si se decide no continuar, los medios debían apoyarla y no reclamar después la falta de roce internacional.

"Es importante ese análisis, mientras no hay que quejarse, sólo adaptarse a patadas, manotazos, pisotones y empujones como le hicieron ayer en la Sudamericana a Ismael Iñiguez en una jugada en la que debieron expulsar al portero del Boca Juniors", señaló.

Alvarez se preguntó si vale la pena adquirir roce a costa de lo que sea y reafirmó que económicamente a los mexicanos no le conviene nunca competir en América del Sur.

El directivo reconoció que la participación de México en la Libertadores y la Sudamericana ha ayudado a divulgar el fútbol del país, pero se mostró inconforme con el trato recibido y por las decisiones de los oficiales desde 1998 cuando el país debutó en la Libertadores.

"Se ha dado a conocer el fútbol mexicano, pero tampoco esto ha servido como vitrina para exportar jugadores a Europa; sólo se llevaron a Francisco Palencia en el 2001 y fue de préstamo al club Espanyol de Barcelona", recordó.

El desenlace de la final de la Sudamericana entre el Boca Juniors de Argentina y los Pumas de México ha sido la comidilla de los medios mexicanos, inconformes por el cambio de fecha de la serie, beneficioso para los xeneises, y críticos con las decisiones de los árbitros que, según sostienen, anularon un gol a Pumas en el partido de ida y perdonaron una expulsión al Boca en el de vuelta.

Guillermo Alvarez confirmó que en las primeras horas del año nuevo el Cruz Azul viajará a Estados Unidos a participar en la eliminatoria de la Libertadores del 2006, pero adelantó que la prioridad de la temporada será ganar el torneo de Liga.

Cruz Azul es el equipo mexicano de mayores logros en la Libertadores; en el 2001 perdió la final ante el Boca Juniors en serie de penaltis luego de imponerse como visitante en la "Bombonera" de Buenos Aires, y en el 2003 fue eliminado en cuartos de final, 2-3 por el Santos de Brasil.

Para la Libertadores del 2006 el primer equipo mexicano clasificado ha sido los Pumas de la UNAM y los otros dos boletos se los disputarán Pachuca, Veracruz, Monterrey, Morelia; Cruz Azul, Necaxa, Tigres y Guadalajara.

El campeón de la preliminar accederá de manera directa al torneo continental y el segundo lugar, participará en una repesca por otro boleto.

http://www.univision.com/content/con...368&cid=761312

According to Univision's website, the Mexican federation is now reconsidering in sending teams to such tournaments, because of said abuse by CONMEBOL.

While I certainly agree CONMEBOL blatantly favors their teams, I don't believe abandoning their tournaments would be the right decision. Playing against the best from South America beats playing anything named MLS or CONCACAF competition. But, I do believe this rumor will only serve to put more pressure on the South American confederation and demand a fair competition. If Mexico were to abandon their competitions, the party that could possibly be hurt more would be CONMEBOL. Mexico is a great money provider that CONMEBOL can't lose that easily.

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old December 20th, 2005, 12:23
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It's an interesting thought. Mexican clubs have always done well in the Libertadores and Mexico has had strong showings at the Copa Sudamerica. I don't think they should abandon the tournaments. The club part of CONCACAF is very weak, the only strong clubs are from Costa Rica (Deportivo Saprissa), MLS, and the Mexican clubs. By competing in the Libertadores, the Mexican teams get an opportunity to showcase their players to the world.

I doubt they'll pull out, I think this is just a threat to make their complaints heard.

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I think it all comes down to language. Mexico speaks Spanish, as do the South American countries (with the exception of Brazil). Culturally and linguistically it is a great fit. At the same time, they should not abandon CONCACAF club competitions as they bring credibility to them. After all, other than MLS, what would Canada and the USA have to compete for past the college level? Not much.
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I think it all comes down to language. Mexico speaks Spanish, as do the South American countries (with the exception of Brazil). Culturally and linguistically it is a great fit. At the same time, they should not abandon CONCACAF club competitions as they bring credibility to them. After all, other than MLS, what would Canada and the USA have to compete for past the college level? Not much.

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Yea, Costa Rica seems to be overlooked in CONCACAF. They're a strong national team and they have a strong domestic league. Deportivo Saprissa is a very good club, they finished third at the World Club Championship.

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I think Mexico shouldn't have it both ways -- if they want to participate in the CONMEBOL Libertadores, they should also play the South American WC Qualifiers. The way it's set up now, they get to play the most prestigious club competition in the continent AND play relatively-easy Qualifiers, where the risk of Mexico not qualifying is minimal.

If Mexico wants to keep playing the CONCACAF Qualifiers, they should stick to CONCACAF's club competitions. And if they want to play CONMEBOL competitions, then they should also compete in the South American qualifiers – but of course they don't want to take that chance, as the competition in the South American qualifiers is far tougher than what they face in CONCACAF's Qualifiers. It's very convenient for Mexico, but it doesn't really seem fair.

In my opinion, Mexico shouldn't play the Libertadores PERIOD. But that's just my opinion.

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Mexico ... and the USA are practically out of Competition in their part of the world...Fifa...Concacaf and Conmebol ALL know that very well...thats why their Nats and many of their Clubs are being courted by Leoz for so many Conmebol activities..Nothing wrong with that...I welcome them aboard...Gone FOREVER are the days when in S America we looked to the northwest laughing and downgrading their football...Whether we like it or not...they're at a very high international level and that being the case ... its only better for us to have them around.


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I would like to have mexican clubs playing in Libertadores but only if the nation team plays in the conmebol. Makes it more better for mexico if they play VS South American clubs and Nations.
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I think it would be tough to get the Mexican team to play in CONMEBOL qualifiers. They're an established power in CONCACAF and I don't think they'd like to lose that. I'm not sure if they'd be able to qualify out of CONMEBOL.

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I think if Mexico went to Conmebol, they would be very succesfull. Mexico is a great team.
Enough said !!!!

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