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post #2 of 69 (permalink) Old August 27th, 2009, 23:06 Thread Starter
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What places do you guys think are the best for a vacation in Greece?
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As to your first question, I have no idea.

In regards to your 2nd question, that all depends. Are you looking for a beach vacation or historical? Perhaps a combination of the two? Are you on a budget?

Myself I've always loved the Ionian islands. Corfu is a nice green islands with a lovely main town which has a Venetian flavour and is known also for its club/nightlife.

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I am not on a budget, unless a vacation in Greece costs 1000 Euros per day.

A beach vacation ( some place with clean sea water and no british drunks running amok ), even through I am interested in history sights, but probably more or less every place in Greece has some interesting historical sight in it's vicinity.

Where do you vacation?
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Try Zakynthos.


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Looks nice. What is the best place for vacationing near Athens?
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Corfu and Zakyntos are indeed nice, but, Corfu in particular, is so damn expensive. Both have great sea though, especially Zakynthos. If you want something less fussy than the likes of traditional tourist places like Mykonos, Malia ect, you should try Rodos Island or Pylos (if you go there you should try the beach of Voidokoilia). No drunks or gays there, just beautiful places with cultural vibes. Nafplio (one of my favorite destinations) would also be a good choice, I usually go there with my girlfriend, its only 130 miles away from Athens.

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Pylos (if you go there you should try the beach of Voidokoilia). No drunks or gays there, just beautiful places with culture vibes.
This one sounds the best so far. And it looks beautiful.

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Btw, how do you guys change the settings from Greek to Latin alphabet on your keyboards?

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http://www.foundalis.com/lan/grkalpha.htm

Pylos was home to the wise King Nestor from the Iliad.


Ambrosian Iliad, Nestor and Patroclus.

Cave of Nestor

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Thank you very much Icarus.

One more question about the alphabet, are the letters always pronounced the same? Do you have those letter combination's like the Germans do? Sch = sh(š) tsch = ch(č) are the examples I can think of. Does the Greek language have that?

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OK this is a quick guide.

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The Greek alphabet


1st column: The letters
2nd column: How the letters are pronounced in the words

(Α - α) – (as in A-tomic NOT as in A-nd)
(Β - β) – (as in V-olcano)
(Γ - γ) – (as in Y-eti NOT as in Pla-y)
(Δ - δ) – (as in Th-e NOT as in Th-ink) opposite of (Θ - θ)
(You can pronounced it as the English D if you want to, as most foreigners do)

(Ε - ε) – (as in E-pic NOT as E-than)
(Ζ - ζ) – (as in Z-oo)
(Η - η) – (as in I-taly)
(Θ - θ) – (as in Th-ink NOT as in Th-e) opposite of (Δ - δ)
(Ι - ι) – (as in I-taly)
(Κ - κ) – (as in K-ey)
(Λ - λ) – (as in L-etter)
(Μ - μ)– (as in M-an)
(Ν - ν) – (as in N-o)
(Ξ - ξ) – (as the “cc” in A-CC-ess or “x” in e-X-it)
(Ο - ο) – (as in O-minus)
(Π - π) – (as in P-arty)
(Ρ - ρ) – (as in R-esident)
(Σ - σ) – (as in S-ex)
(Τ - τ) – (as in T-rain)
*(Υ - υ) – (as in I-taly)
(Φ - φ) – (as in F-antasy)
(Χ - χ) – (as in H-ard)
(Ψ - ψ) – (as “ps” in ecli-PS-e)
(Ω - ω) – (as in O-minus)

Don’t be confused
(Η - η)
(Ι - ι)
(Υ - υ)
All as in I-taly.

Example
Ήλιος - Ilios
Ιταλία - Italia
Ύστερα - Istera

*(Υ - υ)
BUT as in V or F when not the first letter in a world.

Example
Υλοτόμος is pronounced as ilotomos
BUT
ευνοϊκός as evnoikos
and
εύκολο as efkolo

Both
(Ο - ο)
(Ω - ω)
As in O-minus.

Example
Τόπος - Topos
Τώρα - Tora
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Correct Stressing


In Greek language we use a symbol to indicate the letter a word is stressed at, it’s similar to the dot above the letter “i” in the English language. I’m I going to bold the letters a Greek word is stressed at so you can understand it.

1: For example, we say «τόπος», so the word is stressed in the first «ο».
2: To pronounce the word «τόπος», you have to stress the word in the first «ο».
3: This symbol (ό) indicates that the word «τόπος» is pronounced as «topos» and NOT as topos.

So in addition to what most people call the club, Παναθηναϊκός it’s actually called Panathinaikos and NOT Panathinaikos, the same with Ολυμπιακός – Olympiakos ect.

Example:
Χώρος – Horos
Μέσα – Mesa
Άρης - Aris
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Combinations:


3.1
(ΕΙ - ει)
(Οι - οι)

The above combinations are also pronounced as in I-taly.

Example
Εικόνα - Ikona
Οιωνός - Ionos
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3.2
(Αι - αι)
This is pronounced exactly like (Ε - ε).

Example
Αιτία - Etia
Απαίσιο - Apesio
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2.3
(Ου - ου)
This is pronounced as in (S-u-san)
NOT as in (U-p)
NOT as in (U-ser)

Example
Πουθενά – Puthena
Ουρανός - Uranos
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Combination splitting


So we have
1: (ΕΙ - ει)
2: (Οι - οι)
3: (Αι - αι)
4: (Ου - ου)


In Greek language we use a 2 dot symbol (similar to the German umlaut) to indicate the split between the above letter combinations, for example:

This is why Παναθηναϊκός, even though it has an (Αι - αι), is pronounced as Panathinaikos and NOT as Panathinekos.

The combination (Αι - αι) is spit into two autonomous letters, it’s ΝΟΤ (Αι - αι) anymore, it’s (Α/ι – α/ι). Autonomous «α», autonomous «ι».

Example: (the bold here indicates the splitting/non splitting not the stressing)
Παιχνίδι - Pexnidi
BUT
Παναθηναϊκός - Panathinaikos

Ενοίκιο – Enikio
BUT
Απλοϊκός - Aploikos

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You guys are great. Thanks Saravakos.
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Btw, how do you guys change the settings from Greek to Latin alphabet on your keyboards?
I have just figured out how this is done in Vista, all that has to be done is:

Language bar > settings > add > Greek > click Greek on the language bar
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Are Greek letters in cursive different? Or do they stay the same, just with being connected by lines at the bottom?
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So, what is the economic situation like in Greece now?

Did the tourist season go well?
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Purger, I'd answer your tourism question but honestly I have no clue. I'm sure its taken a dip as many Europeans have less money to float around.

http://athenspost.com/

http://www.ekathimerini.com/

http://news.ert.gr/en/greece/index.php

http://www.topix.net/world/greece

http://news.nabou.com/world/greece_news.html

http://www.einnews.com/greece/

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what was that song someone posted here a few years ago when I asked about the Greek Zorba song? It was an instrumental song like Zorba, but sounded more 'menacing' and serious.
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what does Ouzo taste like?

What's the difference between 5 star and 7 sstar Metaxa? Is tehre a noticeable difference in taste?
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