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post #1 of 111 (permalink) Old August 19th, 2006, 01:40 Thread Starter
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Official Basketball World Championship Topic

We had a general basketball topic but I think this deserves its own thread.

I must admit that I haven't been as excited about a basketball tournament for a long time, but I'm feeling quite positive at the moment about our team and I think we can do well and build on our European Championship title of last year. Our defence is amazing, and Giannakis has worked a lot in the attack which remains our weak spot with these rather annoying lapses of scoring. We still don't have a natural scorer but we have a mean bench and a 12-man debth so if one isn't on his best day someone else will be. Hopefully we won't underachieve.

We were drawn on the hardish 3rd group which includes Brazil, Lithuania, Australia, Turkey and Qatar. Nothing needs to be said about Lithuania which even without Jasikevicius probably remain the best European team. Australia has Andrew Bogut, the guy who was number 1 pick in last year's draft, but not much else. I don't know how Turkey is at the moment but I can't remember the last time we lost from them. Brazil are a bit of an unknown quantity but they do have a couple of NBAers in their ranks which could mean either a lots of things or absolutely nothing. Qatar is the weakest team of the tournament. Basically, if we turn up I think we are strong favorites for the 2nd spot behind Lithuania but we should give them a game for the 1st spot which will put us in the pleasant situation of not having to face the Americans till the final (if either goes there) provided they get top spot in their group.

We are starting with a game against Qatar tomorrow morning. But who the hell are Qatar? Well, Qatar are basically the weakest team of the tournament. They recruited an obscure American coach named Joseph Stibing and they gave passports to some African players, and this brought them the 3rd place (behind Japan and China) in the last Asian Championship. They don't have any player who stands out particularly but we should be expecting a sort of African team playing American basketball - energetic defence, lots of jumping and fast breaks when possible. To be honest, they really shouldn't be a problem. Unlike football, small nations in basketball usually serve as a punching bug rather than having a realistic chance of doing damage.
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post #2 of 111 (permalink) Old August 19th, 2006, 02:48
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Besides Luthuania I think we should do very well. The team has been amazing IMO. Brazil, Turkey and Australia are good teams but not great, if we play our kind of basketball we should win. I am also very excited about the tournament, I think we have a real shot of winning.
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Winning is asking a bit much considering USA and Argentina. But apart from these two, if we turn up we are as good as any of the other teams with the possible exception of Lithuania...

A top-4 position would make me happy.
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post #4 of 111 (permalink) Old August 19th, 2006, 08:57
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Right now Qatar is beating us 12-28
Its not like Qatar are doing sth great its all our fault...we are playing REALLY bad
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they woke up..making a 26-3 run

38-31 halftime
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post #6 of 111 (permalink) Old August 19th, 2006, 09:35
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Watching the match here, excellent comeback!

You'll definitely hold on and win this one...unless Qatar have different ideas.

By the way, yiati den exei paiktes Olymbiakos stin ethniki omada?

Don't lament the treachery of time;
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for dogs remain dogs, and lions remain lions.

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For my silence to the depraved is a response.

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They have 1, Schortsianitis. From then on they don't have any particularly good Greek players...

About the game, we played awful and the Qataris were making almost every shot at the beggining. When we got serious we cruised through. Our defence was majestic once more but attack is a whole other issue... the systems are there but our players just can't make free shots.

Dikoudis and Spanoulis were the best.
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Sometimes watching our offense is very painful.... but WHEN we click, I think we can beat teams like the USA and Argentina, but we have to have the perfect game in a sense....
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Τα δεκάλεπτα: 7-18, 38-31, 56-45, 84-64

Ελλάδα: Ντικούδης 26 (1), Σπανούλης 17 (2), Διαμαντίδης 4, Ζήσης 2, Φώτσης 16 (2), Παπαλουκάς 8, Τσαρτσαρής 6, Κακιούζης 5 (1)

Κατάρ: Τουρκί 17 (5), Σαΐντ 13 (1), Σαλέεμ 10, Αμπντουλραχμάν 9 (2), Αχμάντ 7, Μόσα 4, Αμπντί 2, Αμγκαντέρ 2

Greece-Qatar
22/39 (56%) 2-POINTERS 17/27 (63%)
6/21 (29%) 3-POINTERS 8/18 (44%)
22/24 (92%) FREE THROWS 6/13 (46%)
17 FOULS 24
14 STEALS 4
17 TURNOVERS 35
11 OFF. REBOUNDS 9
13 DEF. REBOUNDS 21
22 BIGGEST LEAD 16
13 BIGGEST RUN 7



Two brief video clips:

http://www.sport.gr/basket/mb06/060819/mb06helqat3.asp

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It would be nice if we kept this topic free of pictures and long-winded articles. I mean, we can all find these things in the various sports sites but our opinions are far better...
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It's half-time and we are down by 7 points against Lithuania. We are simply pathetic... We can't even score free-throws. And noone seems to have the balls to step up and score a bit...
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Well, we beat the Lithuanians 81-76 after extra-time. We didn't play well in attack and our defence was sometimes daydreaming but in the end we muscled them out. Could have been much easier with better choices in attack and a better percentage at free-throws (we had 20/41!). Spanoulis was VERY good once again and the most calm from the free-throw line.

I have to say that when we manage to win when we play that bad, we can be rather optimistic.

On paper, Lithuania was our hardest opponent in the group but they've lost to Turkey yesterday who also beat Australia, so apparently the Turks are our main competitors for the top spot.

Basically, if we improve a bit and play as we can, we will win top spot in the group.
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Well, we beat the Lithuanians 81-76 after extra-time. We didn't play well in attack and our defence was sometimes daydreaming but in the end we muscled them out. Could have been much easier with better choices in attack and a better percentage at free-throws (we had 20/41!). Spanoulis was VERY good once again and the most calm from the free-throw line.

I have to say that when we manage to win when we play that bad, we can be rather optimistic.

On paper, Lithuania was our hardest opponent in the group but they've lost to Turkey yesterday who also beat Australia, so apparently the Turks are our main competitors for the top spot.

Basically, if we improve a bit and play as we can, we will win top spot in the group.
Greece also got out-rebounded 46-29 and still won.


EDIT: Plato - Lets keep this topic free from alot of pictures and articles. Those can be found anywhere. Lets just have our own opinions and comments here.

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I couldn't watch the game live today, but I have it recorded so I will give my thoughts after I watch it.
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I have to say that when we manage to win when we play that bad, we can be rather optimistic.
This is the mark of a great side, to win even when you don't play up to snuff.

I'd be happy with a semi-final berth.

To pio omorfo pragma sto kosmo einai na agapas tin AEK!
Det Vackraste i den har varlden, ar att alska AEK!
Самая прекрасная вещь на свете, это любить АЕК!
La plus belle chose dans le monde est l'amour pour l'AEK!
La cosa piu' bella nel' mondo e' di amare l'AEK!
Dünya'da en güzel şey, AEK aşkı.
A legszebb dolog a világon az AEK iránti imádat.
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Icarus, the way this team is, a semi-final birth is not good enough. Winning, at least, a bronze medal is, however.

Anyway, the Australian coach, Mackinnon, thinks Greece is arrogant. He said so based on, what he feels, is the way they walk around the hotel and the way they are. He also said they've been around for a while at the hotel and don't really say anything to you and just look at you. Finally, he said that Australia knows what Greece thinks of them, meaning a low opinion.

I hope Greece blows away Australia so that Mackinnon can shut the hell up. What a paranoid guy he is making up such BS based on envy. Yiannakis should put his comments in Greece's locker room.

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Sometimes the Aussies are very annoying.

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Greek athletes? Arrogant?

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I predict an easy win for us, IMO Australia is the weakest team of the group, Quatar excluded. Lets say a 22 points win...

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Half time...39-34 for Greece
We made a bad start as we usually do, had a better 2nd quarter...
Diamantidis is our best player so far with 3 threes, 5 rbs and 13 points. Spanoulis is awfull today...
Our free-throws stats are much better today

The Aussies are playing with a lot of toughness and have very good shooters.

I still think we are going to win easily at the end
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