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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old August 16th, 2006, 21:06 Thread Starter
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Na pan na gamithoun oi kseftilismenoi

I just closed the video player after the fourth goal. I never thought I had this kind of restraint - there should be nothing but broken things littering my room right now...

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Nikopolidis completely left out to dry. I only blame him for the poor punch that led to the first goal.

D:
Antzas should be banned from the national team forever. I never want to see him play another game. He may have had the WORST performance by a greek central defender in recent national team history. Vyntra is good for B ethniki. He should be playing for Giannena and not for the nt or Panathinaikos. Na paei sto dialo. Fyssas is a lump of shit. Katsouranis was wasted on the back line marking nobody and doing nothing. Dellas was not involved in the play and looked like during the course of his injury recovery last year he managed to lose his balls. He played like a huge vagina today.

The defense was pathetic.

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Karagounis has kept up the disappearing act hes perfected ever since 2005. Its more obvious than ever that Zagorakis has faded since 2004. Stelios worked hard but buckled under the pressure from the English defense. It didnt help that no one was ever open for a pass.

The midfield was overrun plain and simple.

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Charisteas got the ball, and 2 seconds later Charisteas lost the ball. Familiar scenario. Samaras touched the ball twice... and every time it was 10 meters outside the box.

The attack was non-existant.

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Simply an embarassing, terrible, classless, lazy, and incredibly frustrating performance. Na pan na gamithoun oloi oi kolomalakes... kai prwtos o Rehaggel pou then kalei ton Stoltidi me tipota.

(keep in mind this is being written after the first half. I dont care for watching a second half where England will be playing at 50%)





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I can't even form a cohesive train of thought right now. I am ****ing livid.
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post #3 of 27 (permalink) Old August 16th, 2006, 21:30
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CHARISTEA - OUT

VYNTRA - OUT

ANTZA - OUT

ZAGORAKI (I love him but it is time) - OUT


WAKE UP OTTO.
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It was just a friendly game.
Yes we where pathetic, but it was just a friendly, do I need to remind you that few days before the Euro started, we lost 4-0 to Holland?
Yes, the team needs changes BUT.
It’s not the end of the world, we need to change a lot of things and that’s what friendly games are for.
As long as Otto make the right changes, everything it’s gonna be alright.
Charisteas «and everyone who is in the same situation» who is without a team, must stay out till he finds one.
When are back ups going to take their chance if not now?
And Samaras is more than good for a back up.
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It was just a friendly game.
Yes we where pathetic, but it was just a friendly, do I need to remind you that few days before the Euro started, we lost 4-0 to Holland?
That's the same pathetic excuse Rehhagel gave... it's too silly to even warrant a reply, embarassing really.

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As long as Otto make the right changes, everything it’s gonna be alright.
When has Otto made changes?

It's time for Rehhagel to go before we miss out on the WC. Now that is still early.
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I have learned in my life to don’t give a shit about friendly games, I’ll do the same here.
As for Rehhagel, he isn’t going anywhere now that he renewed his contract.
But let’s assume he does, who is the right man to take his place?
I’m sure Gagatsis and co will make a stupid choice for Otto’s replacement.
Greece never had a good coach, from Daniil to Iordanescu all useless crap, good old days will be back in no time.
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At least we were much better in the 2nd half, not that it matters. We could have a few goals. Amanatidis really impressed.
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I wish England had spanked us harder. Perhaps it would knock some sense into Otto.

Vyntra-OUT! No good!

Zagorakis- Should have stayed retired. He knew it was over, no sense in dragging out the inevitable.

Katsouranis- This is more for Otto, STOP playing him in the back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Karagounis- Hello. Are you there?

OUTS: Vyntra, Zagorakis, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Antzas

INS: Tav, Abaris, Agritis, Torosidis, Zikos (no way), Stoltidis, Tzio

To pio omorfo pragma sto kosmo einai na agapas tin AEK!
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Самая прекрасная вещь на свете, это любить АЕК!
La plus belle chose dans le monde est l'amour pour l'AEK!
La cosa piu' bella nel' mondo e' di amare l'AEK!
Dünya'da en güzel şey, AEK aşkı.
A legszebb dolog a világon az AEK iránti imádat.

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mhn lete gia paiktes......


REHHAGEL OUT! ! ! !

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The immediate changes, and I speak only for the starting 11 must be this based on what has happened:


Kyrgiakos in for Antzas.

Basinas in for Zagorakis.

Seitaridis to never get hurt again. Vyntra out.

Amanatidis in for Charisteas. (or Salpiggidis etc)


I believe we cannot play with 2 strikers up front, it seems just a waste. We cannot get the ball forward. And when we do Charistea loses it constantly... we need to pack the midfield because we keep getting sorely beaten there. Take out one forward and add a midfielder, preferrebly Lagos.
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I believe we cannot play with 2 strikers up front, it seems just a waste. We cannot get the ball forward. And when we do Charistea loses it constantly... we need to pack the midfield because we keep getting sorely beaten there. Take out one forward and add a midfielder, preferrebly Lagos.
I agree. Lagos is better when he's in midfield.

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------------Nikopolidis------------
--Seitaridis-Dellas-Kyrgiakos-Tzio--
-----Basinas--Stoltidis/Zikos-----
-----Gianna-----Lybero------Lagos
------------Samaras------------

To pio omorfo pragma sto kosmo einai na agapas tin AEK!
Det Vackraste i den har varlden, ar att alska AEK!
Самая прекрасная вещь на свете, это любить АЕК!
La plus belle chose dans le monde est l'amour pour l'AEK!
La cosa piu' bella nel' mondo e' di amare l'AEK!
Dünya'da en güzel şey, AEK aşkı.
A legszebb dolog a világon az AEK iránti imádat.
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You cant honestly consider Tziortziopoulos starting material. Look... Fyssas might be shite... but players like Tziortziopoulos have no business being on the national team.





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Why not? You want the old man of Hearts playing until when? Alternatives? Darlas? Georgeas?

I'd stake my chances with Tzio and see how he does in a couple of friendlies. WTF is Otto doing. He keeps at it like it's the same old. Try something new. What could it hurt?

And where was Lybe? This guy is all heart and is a paiktara too. At least on the sub bench for Christsake.

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Det Vackraste i den har varlden, ar att alska AEK!
Самая прекрасная вещь на свете, это любить АЕК!
La plus belle chose dans le monde est l'amour pour l'AEK!
La cosa piu' bella nel' mondo e' di amare l'AEK!
Dünya'da en güzel şey, AEK aşkı.
A legszebb dolog a világon az AEK iránti imádat.
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At Least Lybe should be picked over Gekas.

My line-up:

----------------Nikopolidis

------------Dellas-----Kyrgiakos
Seitaridis--------------------------Fyssas (Darlas/Lagos)

----------Basinas-----Katsouranis
----------------Karagounis
Giannakopoulos
---------------------------Amanatidis
----------------Samaras
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Guys stop looking at the younger alternatives there are players who have played NT football before and Rexaggel doesn't want them!!!!!


5-3-2
Nikopolidis
...............Alexopoulos-----Dellas------Tavlaridis
Seitaridis-----------------------------------------Georgatos
----------------------Stoltidis-------------------------
Giannakopoulos---------------------------------Liberopoulos

......................Sammaras..................Sa lpigiddis..............

Christ what about Zikos???
A big mistake was to pair Antzas up with Dellas in the centre of defence ive been saying for the last 5 years ANTZAS IS NOT A MAN MARKER!!!! He is a Libero type player he plays the same game as Dellas does.....

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It's amazing the man has coached this team for 5 years and still insists on using players out of their normal positions (eg Basinas and Katsouranis as fullbacks).

Stoltidis and Zikos should be there. Oh please Giourka heal up, and Pats may the power of Achilles himself help you out because we need you guys!

To pio omorfo pragma sto kosmo einai na agapas tin AEK!
Det Vackraste i den har varlden, ar att alska AEK!
Самая прекрасная вещь на свете, это любить АЕК!
La plus belle chose dans le monde est l'amour pour l'AEK!
La cosa piu' bella nel' mondo e' di amare l'AEK!
Dünya'da en güzel şey, AEK aşkı.
A legszebb dolog a világon az AEK iránti imádat.
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Rehhagel doesn't know what he's doing but seeing some of the suggestions here makes me almost happy he is the coach. Abaris? Probably most unstable goalkeeper of the league... Georgatos? Useless defender and not much good at anything else anymore... Zikos? Getting on... Agritis? Used to be a talent, now a perennial average player for Egaleo...

It's not so much a matter of players, although it is obvious that some of them need to go (Zagorakis, Karagounis, Charisteas) it is a matter of coach. Rehhagel has lost it and he's leading us to sure disaster.
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Who else do we have on the left side as talented as georgato...believe me he may be old but for skill hes better then the other crap we have at the moment.

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All their goals came from our right hand side. Not a surpries since Vyntra and Antzas were both playing there.

AEKara OMADARA!
Sikose to gamimeno, den boro na perimeno!
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