Originally Posted by g00nis
Personally AMO I think youve been totallyy unfair to the man. One year ago he did something that should have never happen. He got the Greek NT to play like a team. Not a bunch of baby primadonnas who cry and pout when they play bad and subsequently lose 5-1. He then did something I thought I would never see... EVER. He won a major international tournament.
1 year after... A most humiliating experience at the Confederations Cup (but fair enough), he undermined our chances for entering the WC by being a stubborn, senile old man. Otto has been saved from critique exactly because of his past achievement... everyone was saying, me included, that you know, give him some time, he'll turn it around, he's a great coach, we'll talk in the end... well the end is here, shouldn't he at some point shoulder the responsibility for the PATHETIC NT we have at the moment? Because in my mind, there is no doubt that excluding the likes of Lichtenstain, Khazakstan, Malta etc. etc. we are the worse team in Europe right now.
Now I think its totally disingenious to force the man out -- its typical Greek thinking to blame the coach for the shortcomings of the players. Its not Rehhagels fault that players like Charisteas and Vryzas lost their abilities in one summer.
He's not to fault for Vryzas and Charisteas being crap, he's blamed for KEEPING PLAYING THEM!
Not to mention that he didn't make clear what every other NT coach does... No club action, No NT. Which other serious NT has 5-6 players in their starting line up game in game out who do nothing but scratch their balls the entire year? If Otto applied this rule, Basinas would not be so anal about moving to Feyenoord or Birmingham; Dellas, who never stopped whining about how bad the Greek league is, would have taken one of the offers available to him instead of going for a semi-holiday at AEK; Karagounis would have fvcked off Inter years ago and Tavlaridis and Amanatidis would not waste their time on the bench of crap teams because of disputes with their coaches.
Its not Rehhagels fault that the midfield cant string two passes together.
The midfield can't string two passes together because the players consisting it are out of form and THEY ARE STILL PLAYING. Basinas has been in the line up for EVERY SINGLE ****ING GAME!
Never mind that, don't you think there should be some attacking plan instead of hoooooooofing the ball up all the time? Was that the players' choice?
Its not Rehhagel's fault that Salp, Gkekas, Pap dont have the experience and kotsia to make an impact against high quality international opposition.
How are these three to blame when all they get is maybe 10 minutes at the end of the game chasing long balls?
Its not Rehhagels fault that Nikopolidis cant have a game for the NT without an error that not only has disasterous results but also makes you want to eat your hat. Its not Rehhagel's fault that Fyssas is a hack and that there is absolutely no other Greek player that can play lb better.
Fair enough, about these two he could do nothing.
Its sad. We simply dont have the talent. We hit a good spell for about two months where we played our asses off and everything went right. We overachieved. It wasnt lucky, the players simply hit their max potential at the right time.
We don't have the talent to win the Euro again. But we do have the talent to finish 2nd in the Qualifying group. We do have the talent to beat Albania and Ukraine!
In the end Otto should be allowed to leave the team in a dignified manner and not forced out.
Which is why he should leave NOW. His contract ends, he failed to take us to the WC, he is 289 years old and the people still love him (me included)... what better time for him to go home? ANY other coach would have been sacked at the half-time of the game against Khazakstan (and rightly so).