Football language - Xtratime Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old November 12th, 2008, 21:17 Thread Starter
Rising Star
 
Jon G's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04 2006
Location: Macclesfield, England
Teams: 1fcn and Port Vale FC
Posts: 276
Football language

Can anyone help me?

I'm doing some research into the language used at football matches.

What sort of phrases, sayings or abuse are shouted at the players, officials or other fans in your country?

How are they said in the native language (and/or dialect) and how do they translate?

I'd be grateful if anybody could PM me with any information, especially if it is too rude to print in the forum.

Thanks

Blog at http://semanticencounter.jongoulding.com/#home
Visit www.1fcnuk.com - The United Kingdom Nuernberg Supporters Club!
Jon G is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old November 13th, 2008, 14:04
Star Player
 
Blue @ngel's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04 2007
Location: Oilsjt (Belgium)
Teams: FC Bruges
Posts: 2,659
Voile zwetten?

#23 François Sterchele || 14/03/1982 - 08/05/2008

"Rêve comme si tu vivais éternellement, vis comme si tu mourais demain ..."
Blue @ngel is offline  
post #3 of 17 (permalink) Old November 13th, 2008, 18:55
Highly Evolved
International
 
Crackedpleasures's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10 2007
Location: travelling and wandering
Teams: KV Oostende, Rosenborg BK, Norway, Israel, Turkey
Posts: 5,697
Hehe, I thought of exactly the same

Belgian fans generally are very intellectual and certain not "marginaal". We prefer to insult the mother of a player or referee rather than the player/ref himself.

To please the OP, a few ones that appear in many stadiums (although not always very original)




"voile zwetten" (dialect for "vuile zwarte") = dirty black man (sung towards the referee, dating from the times when the ref still wore a black suit at any game)

"..., uw moeder is een hoer" (fill in name of player or referee prior to the comma) = says that the mother of the player/ref has the oldest profession in the world

"vendu" = sold (shout towards French speaking teams when the referee is so bad it looks as if he were bribed)

"... buiten" (fill in name of player or coach in beginnin) = "... out" (we sing that towards a player or coach whom we want out of the team/club)

"dat is een vak vol jeanetten" (sung towards fans of the other team) = "it is a stand full of queers"


I won't name the racist ones or the really perverted ones...
Crackedpleasures is offline  
 
post #4 of 17 (permalink) Old November 13th, 2008, 19:02
FM of the Year 2007
Legend
 
TomRSCA's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07 2004
Location: Aalst - Belgium
Teams: RSC Anderlecht
Posts: 10,611
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackedpleasures View Post
I won't name the racist ones or the really perverted ones...


If Jon wants to know them > PM

Mattheus 7:1-6
Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

Belgian Football Forum
RSC Anderlecht Thread
TomRSCA is offline  
post #5 of 17 (permalink) Old November 13th, 2008, 19:17
Star Player
 
Blue @ngel's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04 2007
Location: Oilsjt (Belgium)
Teams: FC Bruges
Posts: 2,659
According to my girl I have a very creative way with words when it comes to those from Bruxelles

And racist? Yesterday we even shouted "woi wille negers zien" against Beveren

#23 François Sterchele || 14/03/1982 - 08/05/2008

"Rêve comme si tu vivais éternellement, vis comme si tu mourais demain ..."
Blue @ngel is offline  
post #6 of 17 (permalink) Old November 13th, 2008, 19:28
Highly Evolved
International
 
Crackedpleasures's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10 2007
Location: travelling and wandering
Teams: KV Oostende, Rosenborg BK, Norway, Israel, Turkey
Posts: 5,697


That was tongue-in-cheeck and thus not racist IMO. Racist is the style of singing about bananas when a black player touches the ball, that is really low level. What you just named is more innocent and creative.

Reminds me of a game I attended in the German Regionalliga between some German village team and a Turkish immigrants team named Ankaraspor Berlin. The fans of the other team waved their ID cards in the air and started singing "wir sind deutsch"
Crackedpleasures is offline  
post #7 of 17 (permalink) Old November 13th, 2008, 19:30
Star Player
 
Blue @ngel's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04 2007
Location: Oilsjt (Belgium)
Teams: FC Bruges
Posts: 2,659
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackedpleasures View Post


That was tongue-in-cheeck and thus not racist IMO. Racist is the style of singing about bananas when a black player touches the ball, that is really low level. What you just named is more innocent and creative.
Well, we did use to have a giant plastic banana with us when we attended the away game in Beveren

#23 François Sterchele || 14/03/1982 - 08/05/2008

"Rêve comme si tu vivais éternellement, vis comme si tu mourais demain ..."
Blue @ngel is offline  
post #8 of 17 (permalink) Old November 13th, 2008, 19:33
Highly Evolved
International
 
Crackedpleasures's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10 2007
Location: travelling and wandering
Teams: KV Oostende, Rosenborg BK, Norway, Israel, Turkey
Posts: 5,697
Crackedpleasures is offline  
post #9 of 17 (permalink) Old November 14th, 2008, 09:07
Premier Player
 
Ezekiel, 25:17's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05 2001
Location: Brugge, Belgium + Berlin
Teams: Club Brugge, 1.FC Union Berlin
Posts: 2,166
I have fond memories of "Wie wordt de man van Olivier" (who becomes the husband of Olivier Deschacht, faggy player of Anderlecht)

"Ricky, je bent vannacht weer dronken geweest" (you have been drunk tonight)

"Maffia, maffia, maffia" to the ref etc etc

http://youtu.be/id5miD_uZDk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg0Re9aBJt4

"You wanna waste my time? Okay. I call my lawyer. He's the best lawyer in Miami. He's such a good lawyer, that by tomorrow morning, you gonna be working in Alaska. So dress warm."
Ezekiel, 25:17 is offline  
post #10 of 17 (permalink) Old November 14th, 2008, 10:18
BANNED!
Star Player
 
HoratioNelson's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08 2005
Teams: the one you like to h8
Posts: 3,390
SVZW, AA GENT and RSCA all sing a version of 'En we drinken ons zat crimineel' apparently. Other teams might as well.
HoratioNelson is offline  
post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old November 14th, 2008, 11:40
Highly Evolved
International
 
Crackedpleasures's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10 2007
Location: travelling and wandering
Teams: KV Oostende, Rosenborg BK, Norway, Israel, Turkey
Posts: 5,697
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezekiel, 25:17 View Post
I have fond memories of "Wie wordt de man van Olivier" (who becomes the husband of Olivier Deschacht, faggy player of Anderlecht)

"Ricky, je bent vannacht weer dronken geweest" (you have been drunk tonight)

"Maffia, maffia, maffia" to the ref etc etc
Ricky Begeyn, cult figure Even though he was quite useless at KVO, we kicked him out of the club and our current goalie Sven Van Ryckegem is a lot better than Begeyn ...

In Oostende we never sing just "maffia" but "voetbalbond maffia" (= FA is maffia), sung whenever the referee messes up and disadvantages Oostende

In a less polite way we would sing towards the referee "hij is een hondenlul" (= he is a dog's genital)




We also have some seamen's songs we sing in the stadium in the Ostend dialect, such as one about selling fish on the seaside promenade. Not really football songs though.

Oh yes, when a guy enters our canteen or supporters bus holding more than 1 bottle of beer, the other fans would point at him and sing "Hij heeft een drankprobleem" = he has a drinking problem. They even sung that to me once when I held 2 cans of beer, but I was just holding those beers for my friends actually ...

and although I admit it is very unoriginal, the oldest song at KVO is repeatedly singing "KV mokt e goalletje" in Ostend dialect (means "KV, please score a goal"). Often enough the players don't listen to our demands though
Crackedpleasures is offline  
post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old November 14th, 2008, 14:32
Forum Manager
Legend
 
Knoert's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07 2003
Location: close to Limburg
Teams: Athletic Club, FC Utrecht & VVV-Venlo
Posts: 12,740
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN8TU4_sNSc

Still one of the best, hehe.
Knoert is offline  
post #13 of 17 (permalink) Old November 14th, 2008, 18:25
Premier Player
 
Ezekiel, 25:17's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05 2001
Location: Brugge, Belgium + Berlin
Teams: Club Brugge, 1.FC Union Berlin
Posts: 2,166
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4WcRCfSfbs


http://youtu.be/id5miD_uZDk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg0Re9aBJt4

"You wanna waste my time? Okay. I call my lawyer. He's the best lawyer in Miami. He's such a good lawyer, that by tomorrow morning, you gonna be working in Alaska. So dress warm."
Ezekiel, 25:17 is offline  
post #14 of 17 (permalink) Old November 15th, 2008, 08:31
Star Player
 
binswhacker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12 2001
Location: Leuven, Belgium
Teams: BRUGGE Celtic,Schalke,VCF - Belgium, Slovenia
Posts: 4,168
When a goalie has a firm grip on the ball or is known for having that grip, we also use the word "klemvast".

'There has never been anything false about hope.' (Barack Obama)
binswhacker is offline  
post #15 of 17 (permalink) Old November 18th, 2008, 20:05 Thread Starter
Rising Star
 
Jon G's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04 2006
Location: Macclesfield, England
Teams: 1fcn and Port Vale FC
Posts: 276
Fantastic. Thanks for your help everyone.

Please keep it coming.

And yes... if you do not want to type it here, send me a PM.

Blog at http://semanticencounter.jongoulding.com/#home
Visit www.1fcnuk.com - The United Kingdom Nuernberg Supporters Club!
Jon G is offline  
post #16 of 17 (permalink) Old November 18th, 2008, 21:02
Star Player
 
binswhacker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12 2001
Location: Leuven, Belgium
Teams: BRUGGE Celtic,Schalke,VCF - Belgium, Slovenia
Posts: 4,168
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackedpleasures View Post
We also have some seamen's songs we sing in the stadium in the Ostend dialect, such as one about selling fish on the seaside promenade. Not really football songs though.
Nothing wrong with that. The KVK-fans sing songs by Johnny Turbo as well, I believe. Between all the English, such local songs are a nice change.

'There has never been anything false about hope.' (Barack Obama)
binswhacker is offline  
post #17 of 17 (permalink) Old November 19th, 2008, 03:06
Highly Evolved
International
 
Crackedpleasures's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10 2007
Location: travelling and wandering
Teams: KV Oostende, Rosenborg BK, Norway, Israel, Turkey
Posts: 5,697
True. In Oostende, after a goal scored by KVO, we play the chorus of "Oh la la la, c'est magnifique" by TC Matic (Arno Hintjens, probably the most famous Ostend born person of all?). We used to play more standard football songs, but the fans called for something that had a real connection with Oostende. I think we made a good choice.

I do like those seamen songs, they are just not real football songs. But you are right, they are a welcome change from the stereotypical ones. "Op de vismarkt zen kik geboren" (= on the fishing sales market I was born) is one of those songs the KVO fans frequently sing.

I believe in AA Gent they used to sing a song by a local band singing in the Ghent dialect, "Als Stropke ben kik geboren" (not sure how to translate this though). During away games in Antwerp I sometimes heard a song in the local dialect which was called "Antwerpen leeft als ik er ben omdat ik alle mensen ken" (containing the brilliant line "Antwaarpe leeft, Antwaarpe discrimineert") but i am unsure who sings it.

And at Aalst, before every home game, the song "Iendracht Veroit" in classic Oilsjt dialect is played, song was recorded by Kamiel Sergeant who was elected Prince of Carnaval 5x ...
Crackedpleasures is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Xtratime Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive. Try to avoid choosing short (like '1'), simple (like 'abcd') and easy to guess passwords (like a name of your favorite team, player, etc)! Complex and long enough passwords, that consists of random string of alphabet and numerical characters, are almost impossible to be stolen and misused.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome