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post #1 of 132 (permalink) Old October 29th, 2007, 18:20 Thread Starter
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New stadiums | Belgians are born ...

... with a brick in their stomach. With Club Brugge, Gent, Anderlecht and maybe also Standard having plans to move into a new stadium and the Belgian FA hoping to get the World Cup in 2018 it's time to show the stadiums of the future.

Today AA Gent announced the definite plans for the Arteveldestadion. They will start building in february 2008. The stadium will have a capacity of 20.000.

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Hopefully we can soon post some pics of the difinite plans of the new arenas in Brugge, Luik and Brussels ...

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Euhm, back to reality now ...



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Antwerp is in discussions about a new stadium also. But it is to be shared between Beerschot and Antwerp. Not sure how that well go over.



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More info on Gent's stadium,

"The stadium will be built using state of the art construction techniques and with the environment firmly in mind.

Not only will the stadium be equipped with a double facade to keep heat loss to a minimum, but it will also have solar panels that will provide it will green energy.

Furthermore, rain water from the new stadium's roof will be used for the toilets and to water the pitch."


Good to see they're going the "green" route.



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Antwerp is in discussions about a new stadium also. But it is to be shared between Beerschot and Antwerp. Not sure how that well go over.
Guess that will never happen. I just can't see Beerschot and Antwerp share a stadium.

Also Mechelen has plans to build a new arena. KV and RC would share it. Both teams don't make to many problems about it.

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Anciaux wil fors investeren in Vlaamse stadions
De Vlaamse regering belooft in de volgende jaren 50 miljoen euro te investeren in de Vlaamse voetbalstadions. Minister van Sport Bert Anciaux ziet in dat er werk aan de winkel is om niet nog meer verderop te raken ten opzichte van het buitenland.

"Ik kan niet blind blijven voor de crisis waarin ons nationale voetbal terechtgekomen is. Het is duidelijk dat de absolute top hulp kan gebruiken van de overheid", steekt Bert Anciaux van wal in de krant Het Laatste Nieuws.

Een studie die uitgevoerd werd door KPMG wees uit dat Vlaanderen nood heeft aan negen nieuwe of vernieuwde voetbalstadions en twee in Brussel. Volgens Anciaux kan daar ook het stadion van Anderlecht bijhoren.

Nu is Anciaux zich ook bewust van de beperkingen. "We kunnen niet zomaar tien nieuwe stadions neerpoten. Daarom beloof ik met het oog op het WK van 2018 een minderheidsparticipatie in de stadions van Brugge, Gent, Brussel, Genk en Antwerpen. Er is wel één voorwaarde en dat is dat het stadion multifunctioneel moet zijn want anders kunnen we die investeringen niet terugverdienen", aldus Anciaux. De minister van Sport bedoelt met multifunctioneel niet: een shoppingcenter. "We zullen de clubs geld, ondersteuning en knowhow geven en in ruil willen wij een stem en een visie in de plannen voor de nieuwe stadions", besluit Anciaux.

Dirk Van Mechelen, Vlaams minister van Financiën, zou voor de financiële ondersteuning van het project moeten zorgen. Hij wil nog niet te hard van stapel lopen. "We hebben nog lang geen akkoord. Het echte bedrag kan nog afwijken van de 50 miljoen euro die nu wordt genoemd", aldus het kabinet op Sporza.

Over welke stadions gaat het nu?
- Antwerpen, stadion van 20.000 plaatsen voor RFC Antwerp en/of Germinal Beerschot
- Brugge, stadion van 40.000 plaatsen voor Club Brugge
- Genk, stadion van 30.000 à 35.000 plaatsen voor RC Genk
- Gent, stadion van 20.000 plaatsen voor AA Gent
- Leuven, stadion van 10.000 plaatsen voor OH Leuven
- Lier, stadion van 15.000 plaatsen voor Lierse SK
- Mechelen, stadion van 12.000 à 15.000 plaatsen voor KV Mechelen
- St.-Niklaas, stadion van 12.000 à 15.000 plaatsen voor SK Beveren en SC Lokeren
- Waregem, stadion van 12.000 à 15.000 plaatsen voor SV Zulte Waregem
- Anderlecht of Schaarbeek, stadion van 40.000 à 50.000 plaatsen voor RSC Anderlecht
- Molenbeek, stadion van 15.000 à 20.000 plaatsen voor FC Brussels
Nice to see there is finally some help from the gouvernment about the building of new stadiums. The last 10 years they only blocked clubs in their plans to build a new stadium, except for the EC in 2000.

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nothing about Standard they could have a newest stadium with better line
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nothing about Standard they could have a newest stadium with better line
I didn't knew Standard was a Flemish club ? This article talks about investing in Flemish clubs stadiums ...

Anderlecht and Brussels aren't Flemish too, I know ...

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They can keep their money ... I don't want the government interfering with our new stadium, they already ****ed up Olympia

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What a terrible plan. To invest in stadiums in Brussels, Genk and Bruges would be acceptable, but the other cities mentioned?

- 40000 capacity in Antwerp? Neither GB nor Antwerp will ever sell more than half of the tickets available.
- Waregem and Leuven have problems selling out their stadium already, so why do they need a bigger one?
- as long as Lierse is in second division, they will never sell out their stadium so no need for enlargement there
- St Niklaas is the biggest joke of all. Ancioux wants Lokeren and Beveren to share a stadium halfway the two cities, this is entirely ridiculous. Nobody in Lokeren or Beveren will want to move out of their own city. Besides. neither of both needs a new stadium because they have lack of fans anyway, and a new stadium outside of their own community is totally ridiculous.


It is good to see that Anciaux wants to help the football in Flanders, but half of his proposals are a waste of money. Build stadiums in places where they will actually have people coming to the games, not in places like Waregem, St Niklaas or Leuven ...
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It says 20000 in Antwerpen, not 40000.

Anyway, I don't think it is a terrible plan. Investing in stadiums is an absolute must for the Belgian league. If you look in Holland, where all the teams have relatively new stadiums, it improves the overall quality of the league. Plus, clubs can get more money out of it, which is necessary.

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Anyway, I don't think it is a terrible plan. Investing in stadiums is an absolute must for the Belgian league. If you look in Holland, where all the teams have relatively new stadiums, it improves the overall quality of the league. Plus, clubs can get more money out of it, which is necessary.
Voila

Bigger / better stadiums > More income > More money to invest in youth academies > Time to climb out of the current dale where Belgian football hosts at the moment ...

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this is the first time i feel some sympathy for crybaby Anciaux actually

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OK, but do you really think Beveren and Lokeren will want to groundshare in St Niklaas where none of both teams have originated from?
And I also think few fans will like the idea of Antwerp and Beerschot groundsharing.

Investment in Anderlecht, Mechelen, Bruges and maybe Leuven is a good idea, but the others seem very weird choices IMO.
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Gent can almost start building
AA Gent received today their construction permit for the new Artevelde stadium. Even though the club needs to wait an extra 60 days due to judicial matters.


It's possible to hand in complaints about the construction activities. This means Gent can start building their 20k stadium around April.

"Keeping the WC 2018 offer in mind, our stadium can be increased with a 20k extra seats", says Gent chairman Ivan De Witte.

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My mother grew up in the house next to Gent's current stadium in Gentbrugge. It was inevittable the club would leave someday, the stadium is in the middle of a residential area and there have been frequent complaints and security concerns within the local community. I guess leaving was the only option, although those stadiums with business rooms and shops built in still make me vomit ... At least they should stick to building a football stadium somewhere else in the city, not a multifunctional misfit like the one they're about to construct.
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A fellow Bruges fan made a first impression of our new Temple with Google Sketchup

Note: This is not a final plan, just a Bruges lad with to much free time




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