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post #1 of 586 (permalink) Old June 18th, 2008, 23:50 Thread Starter
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QF: Holland vs. Russia, 20 years in the making.

Rematch of a classic Euro match from 1988. Should be a good one.

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it will be great match for watch, russia is with arshavin in new dimension..

60% - 40% for Netherland!..

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before yesterdays match against sweden i would say 70 - 30..

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That was Soviet Union-Holland.

Soviet Union was better but Kuznetsov and Bessonov didn't play and Belanov had a horrible day.

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heart and mind say we are thru but we have to be careful, football can betray u in many ways p probably if we lost Hiddink wont be allowed into holland again lol

to be honest win cup or no, in my mind Euro2008 will stay with me as one of the happiest times as a dutch fan listening to all these people every day telling you ur team is the best in europe so much joy they brought bless em', a cup would be nice thou...

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Holland are favourites but if Russia plays like against Sweden (despite poor opposition) then they will be a tougher nut to crack than Italy and France. Holland favourites mainly because of their goalkeeper in great form and because their strikers are more experienced. But Russia should go for it, they can do it if they are playing like today. I agree with the odds of 60% Holland and 40% Russia. Maybe Hiddink coaching Russia is an advantage to them as he knows the Dutch players very well.

Should be a great game with two teams that have a great frontline and don't hesitate to play attacking football. With a bit of luck it could be a game with a high scoreline.
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3-2 win for Holland in a breathtaking attackng game.

Or a 1-0 Russia win on penalties, haven't decided yet.

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This is still Netherlands game.
Given...Russia played great against Sweden cuz they really show determination. Hopefully they don't jug any vodka before Netherlands game now. Sweden on the other hand didn't show much.
So really...lets take that Sweden didnt play so well and Netherlands will be wanting to do the exact opposite.
Netherlands 2:0 Russia.
But Russia will have their close chances only to be stoped by Edwin van der Sar?
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This is still Netherlands game.
Given...Russia played great against Sweden cuz they really show determination. Hopefully they don't jug any vodka before Netherlands game now. Sweden on the other hand didn't show much.
So really...lets take that Sweden didnt play so well and Netherlands will be wanting to do the exact opposite.
Netherlands 2:0 Russia.
But Russia will have their close chances only to be stoped by Edwin van der Sar?
According to Arshavin's theory yes

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After seeing Russia spurn several chances to give the scoreline a more flattering gloss, Arshavin believes the Dutch may feel the full force of his side's goalscoring potential in Basel this weekend. "I don't think we needed to score that many goals in this game," he said. "We need to save them up for the forthcoming games and I hope that we will score a few against the Netherlands."
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BTW, Dmitriy you know damn well that wasn't Russia in '88 p
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BTW, Dmitriy you know damn well that wasn't Russia in '88 p
Shut up, you're giving it away bro. :frustrat:

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Shut up, you're giving it away bro. :frustrat:
p I'll be cool and let you have it. The way Russia played today I'll play along, some people might need be enlightened and reminded what a successful football nation we were at one time.
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According to Arshavin's theory yes
Lets hope he's right.
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I was really expecting the Russians to have a very good tournament because of the UEFA victory for Zenit and having Guus Hiddink as their manager. After the Spain match I felt as if they got a bit toyed with and didn't have a chance to go to the second round. After them beating Greece and then Sweden I feel as if this team can surprise anyone. They're very organized and are not afraid to have a go at you. Their group wasn't the easiest so I wouldn't necessarily write them off. They may not have players that are very well known but that doesn't matter. Just ask Greece.


The Dutch came into this tournament with one foot in and one foot out. They were up against France and Italy, two of the greatest teams in the world, let alone Europe, and to make matters worse they also threw in Romania into the cauldron. A team who beat them to the first spot in their qualifying group. Then Robben and Van Persie started the tournament injured, which wasn't to surprising. This was anxiety inducing for me because I didn't think this team would have any goals in it. Then the first goal against Italy went in and it was like; Yeah!! now let's defend this lead, get the three points and see if we can get a draw against France. But then came the second goal and the third goal.

Against France there was a certain swagger about the Dutch team from the kick off. I felt as if they could genuinely win the game. The first half was comfortable for the Dutch and they had Kuyt's goal as a cushion. Then as the second half started the French started gainning momentum but I didn't see any type of frustration or desperate actions from the players. Everyone was hitting their passes crisply and purposefully. The team stayed patient and waited for their opportunities despite the fact that France had a bit of a flury earlier on in the game. Then Van Persie scored from a beautiful play from Arjen Robben and Van Nistelrooij. That was when I realized this squad was for real. The confidence was as bright as the stadium lights at that moment. Henry scored but I knew that didn't matter because their celebrations weren't jovial. They were more like a big sigh of relief. Then Robben struck that awesome goal and it was too much for the French to cope with.

I'm really excited about this team. This game and all of their remaining games are going to be fun and it is the first time in a long time where I'm really, really looking forward to watching holland this much.

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Guus Hiddink vs. Netherlands.....This should be good

We miss Guus Hiddink days... But we need to move on for better future.

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From waht i saw today, Russia played really well. I don't know Russia very well, but if they can keep this up, then believe me Holland better watch out.

This russian team attacked beautifully from the wings, and moved the ball quickly.
I watned italy to play like this....but i guess well wait till the spain game.
Russia had becautful overlapping runs and seemed highly determined.

The difference however is that Holland is not Sweden.
Holland has more talented players than sweeden and more athletic.

Russia has to score first in order to win this game. COUNTERATTACK is key.
If they concede, i can see them crash and a 4-0 loss would not surprise me.
Their coach is good, but to have a team like Russia react after conceeding first requires a very strong mentality and although its not impossible, its very diffiult.

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It will be one hell of a game. Anyone who's witnessed how Russia played against Sweden last night will agree.

I expect like 5-4 or something to the Dutch. I'm serious.
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holland will win...but since i m not much a dutch NT fan, so i'll be cheering for russia...




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Very sad news.
Boulahrouz out of the tournament I think. His daughter, too early born on Wednesday died in Lausanne.



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