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Standard of Referees

What do you think so far? I think it's been awful from the first game. The refs haven't been up to the level of a European Championships. You can't expect them to be perfect but many mistakes have been made. Really outside of the Romania - France game and the Germany game it seems there have been crucial mistakes in all of them.

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I think the refs have been bad for awhile now...so its not new

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What else apart that bad call on the Dutch goal ?

Also the Romania - France could not be bad, absolutely nothing happened there.
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damn people are you dumb, even the commentators can't see that:

PANUCCI WAS BEHIND THE GOAL, FAKING AN INJURY

a player STILL IS IN the game if he goes out the pitch without the referee's approval

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I think the refs have been quite good so far actually. You can't top Graham Poll's performance of World Cup 2006
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SUI - CZE - missed a penalty
AUT - CRO - allowed Olic to run half-way up the field before throwing the ball in which eventually won a PK. Failed to send off Pogatetz, shaky and inconsistent in general

these are just a few to mention

The best so far was Gonzalez in the Romania game, but to be fair nothing happened
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One penalty not called (Ujfalusi's handball against the Swiss) and tonight's clear offside on the first Dutch goal is not a lot in 6 games but these two bad calls had clear influence in the scores.

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One penalty not called (Ujfalusi's handball against the Swiss) and tonight's clear offside on the first Dutch goal is not a lot in 6 games but these two bad calls had clear influence in the scores.
Pretty much every referee agrees it was ON-SIDE. The only ones who disagree are the Belgians, the Italians, and the Portuguese . I wonder why.. :rollani:
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No, the Dutch goal was completely legal. Panucci was fine as his ass continued and he knocked by his own man for christ sake. Italy continued to play on and if anyone should be blamed it's Panucci and the rest of the Italian defense for not being fit. I'm glad they kept play on, because now everyone knows that the referee won't save them and they'll have to put in the work.

Sure, if it happened to my team; I'd be pissed, but more at the player than the referee. Italy was sloppy all over and should have lost 5-0.

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It's been pretty good so far. The non penalty calls against Switzerland are legitimate, but to allow Holland's first goal to stand was just retarded.
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I've always disliked Peter Fröjdfeldt because of his behaviour on the pitch and it wasn't any difference yesterday. It seems like he has to take personal fights with players, it's ridicolous.

I think it's important that UEFA tells the referee's where the standard should be so a team like Italy, who often gets easy freekicks in Serie A, knows how things should be working. They can only blame their defence for losing yesterday.

I think referee's has to take into consideration that stronger players doesn't always foul, they're simply bigger and stronger than their opponents and this shouldn't be an disadvantage for them.

As for the decisions so far:

-One of Ufo's handballs could've easily been called for, but the referee didn't bother. I don't think any of them were intentional, but then you have to make a proper judgement of the situation.
-Pogratez should've been sent off against Croatia after taking down Olić which would've rendered into a second yellow card.
-Mehmet Aurelio got away with a horrendous challenge on Nani, this could've been a leg-break.
-Makélélé also got away with an absolutely disgraceful tackle on a romanian player. That should've at least rendered into a booking and could've easily been a sending off.

You can't always count on good refereeing though, it's always something wrong with them. If they don't make any serious misstakes, then they're way too picky or blow the whistle all too much..

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Peter Fröjdfelt and his assistant was absolutely right in awarding the first Dutch goal. The rules are clear, Panucci makes Van Horse on side.

He did make some minor mistakes though, missing a few FKs and YCs. But the level of the tourny so far has been that way, allowing much foul play.
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The ref's & linesmen are complete monkey's IMO.
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I've to reserve special praise in this thread to all the players for keeping the cheating and diving to an absolute minimum so far.

You never know, though, once we reach the knockout stages. When the stakes get high..
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Vink is a horrible referee, no business to be in this tournament

even the Cro media knew he was going to be bad a week before the tournament p
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I think the refs have been quite good so far actually.
I agree. Five minutes on this forum will show you that one mans blatant penalty is another mans blatant dive. I think it's important to keep 11 v 11 on the pitch unless something really bad happens and with only one red card so far it's doing better than the last Euro's.

I rarely blame refs or assistants for not correctly calling incidents that take fans 3 slow motion replays (from different angles) to decide.

I'm enjoying the tournament and if it continues like this we hopefully wont have people casting up incidents years later as examples of how they were robbed of the title.

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I agree. Five minutes on this forum will show you that one mans blatant penalty is another mans blatant dive. I think it's important to keep 11 v 11 on the pitch unless something really bad happens and with only one red card so far it's doing better than the last Euro's.

I rarely blame refs or assistants for not correctly calling incidents that take fans 3 slow motion replays (from different angles) to decide.

I'm enjoying the tournament and if it continues like this we hopefully wont have people casting up incidents years later as examples of how they were robbed of the title.
i agree but what about Italy, they are REALLY screwed

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refs were crap. italy was robbed, its the fact no one got damaged as much by the refs as they have

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the only decision that damaged italy was the non given goal of toni against romania,
but they played so badly i doubt they would have won the match even if it was given.

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