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EURO 2008 seeding

The national team coefficient is derived from the results of the national football team of a nation. It is calculated dividing the number of points scored (three points for a win, one for a draw) by the number of matches played in the last two qualification rounds of the World Cup or European Championship. Play-off match results are ignored. For some countries only one qualifying round will be taken into account, if they were hosts of one of the last two events.

This is the latest coefficient ranking -> link.

And this is how the pots would look like -> link.

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post #2 of 73 (permalink) Old October 15th, 2007, 12:41
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Interesting thanks for that Edgar

Would much rather be in pot 2 than pot 1
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If u can could you update us after the next round of qualifiers thanks
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Uefa backs winners in Euro 2008 seeds

Gabriele Marcotti

With three rounds to go, qualifying for the European Championship has thrown up relatively few surprises. Of the 14 teams who qualified for the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany, 12 could reach Euro 2008. This is the maximum number, given that, thanks to the vagaries of the seeding system, groups A and B feature three sides who went to the World Cup, whereas group C does not have any and there is only one such side in group G.

When the qualifying draw was made in January last year, it looked particularly cruel for Scotland, who ended up facing Italy, France and Ukraine. As it turned out, the task appeared to get even tougher – all three sides reached the quarter-finals in the World Cup and, of course, Italy and France contested the final – which makes Scotland’s first-place status in the group even more of an achievement. Barring some kind of divine intervention, France will qualify and the other spot will be determined at Hampden Park on November 17, when Scotland host Italy. Odds are, the Azzurri will need to win, a tall order, which is why we could see the world champions fail to qualify for the next European Championship. It would not be the first time; it also happened to them in 1984. Then, however, there were only eight places in the European Championship finals; today, there are twice as many.

While it may seem unfair that three World Cup quarter-finalists should be stuck in group B while group C does not feature any, you have to bear in mind the Fifa world rankings when the draw was made: France were fifth, Italy twelfth, Ukraine 40th and Scotland 60th. Today, Italy are first, France sixth, Scotland fourteenth and Ukraine seventeenth – which only goes to show that things can and do change rather rapidly in world football.

The system works in reverse, as well. Take group C. When the draw was made, Turkey were seventh, Greece eleventh and Norway nineteenth. Having those countries as the top three seeds in their group did not seem as silly as it does today, when Greece – the highest-ranked of the three – come in at No 12.

What all this does is set up some exciting finishes. Had Serbia won away to Armenia, group A would probably have gone down to the wire. Instead, they were awful in Yerevan and lucky to avoid defeat in the 0-0 draw on Saturday. It looks as if Poland and Portugal will advance. Group C is finely poised for a three-horse race between Greece, Turkey and Norway. Turkey host Greece on Wednesday in the pick of the week’s ties and then they are away to Norway in what is likely to be another barnstormer.

In group D, Germany became the first side to qualify for the finals, with a goalless draw away to Ireland, who are now five points behind the Czech Republic in third place. In group E, Croatia and England control their own destinies. Unless England win in Moscow, however, things may go down to the wire, especially if Croatia fail to win away to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

Group F looked wide open until Northern Ireland fell apart with consecutive losses to Iceland and Latvia and Denmark were punished by Uefa with a 3-0 defeat and a four-match home ban after a supporter ran on to the pitch and attacked the referee in their game with Sweden. Spain and Sweden have now virtually sewn up their summer plans for 2008.

While some viewed Romania’s 1-0 win over Holland as an upset in group G, do not expect it to have too much of an effect. Holland and Romania are heavily favoured because Bulgaria, the third contender, has two away match-es (against Slovenia and Albania) sandwiched around a crucial home tie with Romania, while Holland host two relative cream puffs – Slovenia and Luxembourg – before travelling to Belarus for their final outing.

The bottom line? Uefa’s seeding system seemed to work. Of the 16 first or second seeds when the draw was made, 14 look almost certain to advance. The other two are Italy, whose fate will be decided when they play Scotland, and Denmark. That is not a bad strike-rate for the governing body of European football.

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Coefficient ranking -> link.
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Pot 1 is such a joke, no wonder why German and Netherlands are talking about purposely losing point and Croatia will probably be in Pot 1
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If Holland and Croatia have the same coefficient, why are the Croats in Pot 1 and the Dutch in Pot 2?

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Croatia has a better coefficient (PPG) for the last campaign.
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Edgar, is it dangerous of us to be ahead of 3rd place in this coefficent?

because of this weak weak pot 1?
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Chances are the top team in the coefficient rankings will get a very difficult group. So, it would be easier for us (Romania) to be in the 2nd pot.

In the end though, if you want to win the whole thing, you must overcome even the toughest opposition, don't you think?
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Chances are the top team in the coefficient rankings will get a very difficult group. So, it would be easier for us (Romania) to be in the 2nd pot.

In the end though, if you want to win the whole thing, you must overcome even the toughest opposition, don't you think?

And with a win against Bulgaria, will this mean we will be in pot 1? or Croatia will be?
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Greece will win Euro2008 again
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Greece will win Euro2008 again

If they could beat moldova,malta,hungary by more than 1 goal i'd believe you... but they arent even contenders.
nevermind that greece won most those games in dieing minutes.. Hungary won 3-0 over malta, why couldn't greece??

Answer is. they suck!
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Ofcourse we do.


We sucked all the way to topping our group in 04', then we sucked all the way to the final by winning it, and now we suck all the way to 5 pts clear with 2 games having already booked our qualification in 08' also.

We suck bad.


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Hungary won 3-0 over malta, why couldn't greece??
We beat Bosnia 4-0. Great logic with this method I must say. :rollani:

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Pot 1 is such a joke, no wonder why German and Netherlands are talking about purposely losing point and Croatia will probably be in Pot 1

It is a bit funny, but honestly you cannot hide from anybody or anything in the Euro. It's for the big boys, and you have to play them. The pots don't really make a difference really.
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It is a bit funny, but honestly you cannot hide from anybody or anything in the Euro. It's for the big boys, and you have to play them. The pots don't really make a difference really.
Small teams think they can have an 'easy ride'. :rollani:

Gotta play the big teams sooner or later.

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don't listen to Claudiu, he thinks that everyone sucks except him!
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If they could beat moldova,malta,hungary by more than 1 goal i'd believe you... but they arent even contenders.
nevermind that greece won most those games in dieing minutes.. Hungary won 3-0 over malta, why couldn't greece??

Answer is. they suck!
What difference does it make if a team wins 1-0 or 5-0?? Its still the same 3 points. Ask France, Portugal, and the Czech Republic in Euro 2004

And where did Greece beat those teams in dying minutes with the exception of Moldova at home at the 93rd minute? Greece beat Moldova on the road at 77th minute. You called that a dying minute? And Greece beat Hungary at home 2-0.

Greece did not throw away any points to the bottom feeders in our division and reagarding the derby matches in our division, Greece got 13 out of 18 points. Comparing teams in our divisions, Holland is better than Norway but Turkey and Bosnia are better than Bulgaria and Albania since you think Greece sucks.

Win a championship and then talk.

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