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PL R5: SPORTING 2-2 V. Setúbal; Alvalade, 23.09.2007

Back to the league with a game against one of the surprise teams so far in this league. Vitória is recovering very well from what was probably one of their worst ever seasons last year and they've been showing some solid performances being still unbeaten so far (1W and 3D).

Still, it's a game that we should win, even if it was only for the sake of tradition. Sporting hosted Vitória de Setúbal 60 times in games counting for the top league of our football and these are our numbers: 47 wins, 8 draws and 5 defeats.

Paulo Bento already warned that this is not the time to take the foot out of the pedal as 72 hours after this game we'll have another tough game at Guimarães against the other Vitória on our debut in the League Cup, followed by the big derby at Luz also 72 hours later and again followed by the tough trip to Kiev on the 2nd round of the CL, again, 72 hours later...a true marathon.

Here is the list of players chosen by Paulo Bento to face Vitória de Setúbal, on a game that will start on Sunday at 22h15 CET in Alvalade:

Goalkeepers: Rui Patrício and Stojkovic.

Defenders: Anderson Polga, Ronny, Tonel, Gladstone, Paulo Renato and Abel.

Midfielders: Paredes, Izmailov, Vukcevic, Farnerud, Miguel Veloso, Bruno Pereirinha, João Moutinho, Romagnoli and Celsinho.

Forwards: Purovic, Yannick Djaló and Liedson.

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According to today's edition of O Jogo this is our line-up for tonight's match:

Stojkovic
Abel - Gladstone - Polga - Ronny
Miguel Veloso
João Moutinho - Simon Vukcevic
Romagnoli
Liedson - Purovic

subs: Rui Patrício, Tonel, Paredes, Izmailov, Bruno Pereirinha, Celsinho and Yannick Djaló.


In relation to the game against United, Gladstone and Vukcevic come in for Tonel and Izmailov. If confirmed it will be the first time as a starter for Gladstone in the league and also the frst time Celsinho will be available to play.

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The official line-up brings one more novelty from Paulo Bento. Farnerud will play in the left side of the diamond, shifting Vukcevic for the number 10 position and resting Romagnoli:

Stojkovic
Abel - Gladstone - Polga - Ronny
Miguel Veloso
João Moutinho - Farnerud
Simon Vukcevic
Liedson - Purovic

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Yes, we are losing at half time and I have to say that we are deservedly losing. A very poor game from our side that obviously can be explained. No, it's not really because of the potato field-style of pitch but rather due to the unbalanced way in which our midfield has been playing. The positioning of our midfield players has been this:

Miguel Veloso

Farnerud - Vukcevic

João Moutinho

Whereas Veloso and Moutinho have been playing well enough, Vukcevic has also been very active but he is out of his place as he has a natural tendency to play like a left winger, which is not exactly what is asked from him under this scheme. On the other side Farnerud has been completely anonimous attacking and very soft defending, confirming that he doesn't really have a place in this squad.

Of course that merit should also be given to Setúbal who has been quite dangerous mainly through Cláudio Pitbull and Matheus but a real Sporting should have neutralised this team.

Let's see what will Peulo Bento do to change this very poor state of things.

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And Paulo Bento made the move. He is bringing in Izmailov and Romagnoli for the places of Gladstone and Farnerud.

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Wow, Setubal are really outplaying you guys so far. Great game from them, hopefully they keep it up.

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Yannick Djaló comes in for Vukcevic

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You really have to do something about that pitch of yours. It's the fourth one, and it's still crap.
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Way to go, Setubal.

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You really have to do something about that pitch of yours. It's the fourth one, and it's still crap.
True. It seems that we will have a 5th one after the home game against Guimarães.

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2007/08 Portuguese League
Round 5

Sunday, 23 September 2007 (21h15 local time)
Estádio José Alvalade, Lisboa (30,106 att.)
Ref: Paulo Baptista [AF Portalegre]


SPORTING 2-2 Vitória de Setúbal
[João Moutinho 65' pen., Purovic 86'; Elias 41', Matheus 77']

SPORTING
Stojkovic
Abel - Gladstone
(Izmailov HT) - Polga - Ronny
Miguel Veloso

Farnerud (Romagnoli HT) - Vukcevic (Yannick Djaló 71')
João Moutinho
Purovic - Liedson

Subs not used: Rui Patrício, Paredes, Tonel, Celsinho.
Coach: Paulo Bento


Vitória de Setúbal
Eduardo
Janício - Robson - Auri - Jorginho
Sandro
Elias - Ricardo Chaves (Filipe Gonçalves 82')
Paulinho (Bruno Ribeiro 59') - Cláudio Pitbull (Leandro 63') - Matheus

Subs not used: Marco Tábuas, Hugo, Edinho, Macaé.
Coach: Carlos Carvalhal

-------------------------------------------------------
Booked: Auri (VFC 63'), Ricardo Chaves (VFC 79').
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Yes, I am disappointed but no I don't think we've lost the league last night. There's still a very long road ahead and I am sure we will not be the only ones to fall or to trip on a grass lump, if I may say so.

Yes, the grass, that thing that ruins so many people's lives...particularly those of skillful players trying hard to play the ball close to the ground like any proper quality team such as ours like to do...we could say so many things about it...but I won't. The truth is that the bad state of our pitch did have an influence in some occasions in the first half (that north side of the pitch is in substantially worst condition than the other side) and obviously on Setúbal's second goal, although it is also obvious that Stojkovic does not escape from being namd a rightful successor of the worst snapshots of Labreca Ricardo.

Anyway, for me the real reasons behind this bad result are linked with the excessively laid back way in which we faced the game during the first half almost looking like the players were thinking that because Paulo Bento decided to rest a couple of regular starters it meant that Vitória was in the pocket. If that's what they thought they were dead wrong because Setúbal has shown so far some of the best football in our league and they proved it last night.

Having said so I don't think PB was wrong in refreshing the team and giving some playing time to a few players and also resting others but the problem is that, like Mourinho very well put it in one of his last classic tirades before leaving the London scum, "one cannot make eggs without omelettes"...or is it the other way around? Anyway, I don't mean that Gladstone is a bad egg, not at all, but Farnerud...he is like we say here in Sweden...såååååå&#22 9; dåligt, that hurts. He was for me the main key for the dismal lack of dynamism of our midfield diamond during the 1st half and after giving 45' of advance to a team like Setúbal only with a lot of luck we could have managed to win it.

I truly liked our 2nd half and I do think PB, as usual, had the clarity and the balls (yes, those that seem to be very small in someone that likes to pretend that he has them "muy grandes") to do the necessary changes to win the game.

Romagnoli was immense, João Moutinho even bigger, and Miguel Veloso theoretically playing as CB did another screamer of a game in the tradition of what he's been getting us used to for many months now. Also a word of praise to Abel (involved in both goals and always ready to attack) and Vukcevic (fantastic left foot only needing to look up a bit more often).

OK, we are 5 points behind the already crowned champions but we know that we can easily get those back from them, at least as long they keep that wonderful master of tactics ahead of their coaching staff.

Now we have 3 days to recover before the League Cup comes with a very tough game in Guimarães but I hope PB will not take things too seriously and gives some rest to some of our key people as the two games coming right after are two serious tests to the character of this team.


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Having said so I don't think PB was wrong in refreshing the team and giving some playing time to a few players and also resting others but the problem is that, like Moutinho very well put it in one of his last classic tirades before leaving the London scum, "one cannot make eggs without omelettes".
Joao Moutinho hasn't played for Chelsea... yet!

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