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National Team Coach: The countdown.

Since October 31st or more precisely 111 days when Israel drew Switzerland and were out of chances to qualify for the World Cup, we are waiting for the decision of who will be the next Israeli coach.
The excuse was that IFA were under elections, but it has been a while and still no decision.

Avi Luzon, is keeping the rumours as low as possible, but the media speculates a foreign coach and among them, Roberto Donadoni, Fatih Terim, Frank Rijkard and Ronald Koeman.
On the other side the only Israeli candidate that appears ready is Eyal Berkovic, who went to the media after surprising silence (Berkovic is not known exactly to be smooth in his opinions) said that he wants to be the NT coach and that there isnīt the necessity of bringing an "expensive foreign coach who will still get to know the players will be too late in the campaign", the former talented playmaker continued saying that "football is a simple game and it begings with the heart, if you donīt have it you donīt reach anywhere, i always played in the NT with my heart and under my command the NT will play like this".
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post #2 of 81 (permalink) Old February 19th, 2010, 13:17
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I like Berko, i think he knows what he is talking about and from what i've heard from he understand the game very well.
I also like his confidence unlike Grant and Kashtan.
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All the coaches listed are good, except koeman, I hope we don't name him as manager.
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I like Berko, i think he knows what he is talking about and from what i've heard from he understand the game very well.
I also like his confidence unlike Grant and Kashtan.
You mean Eyal or me? Just kidding.

Donīt know if he understands more about tactics tehn Grant or Kashtan, but he definitely understands very well the players mentality (especially the Israeli one). And above all he has the soul and heart and he will transmit it to the players. He wonīt be afraid to face anyone.

I believe it would be a good gamble, plus he has the players support.
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Out of all of the options listed, I am for Berkovic taking over.
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post #6 of 81 (permalink) Old February 19th, 2010, 20:54
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I am completely against Berkovic taking over. I would be horrified if he became the NT coach. Mark my words, you'll regret it. The guy isn't ready, emotionally or in terms of knowledge how to coach.
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I am completely against Berkovic taking over. I would be horrified if he became the NT coach. Mark my words, you'll regret it. The guy isn't ready, emotionally or in terms of knowledge how to coach.
Could be. But actually Berkovic is that way and will always be. He doesnīt think, he speaks what ever comes to his mind, sometimes it is the plain truth, but sometimes he should just keep quiet.

I could agree with you on the tactical issue, he maybe isnīt the best tactician and that is why in his interview he stated he would have two assistant coaches, one to take care of defense, other from offense and Berkovic would be the one to decide on the issues based on the reports.

He would actually be a type of motivational and confidence booster, someone who understands the player mentality. Plus, the players are all for him.
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Yes, everybody is for him, but everyone was for maradona as well, he turned out pretty badly.
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Yes, everybody is for him, but everyone was for Maradona as well, he turned out pretty badly.
I think that Maradona shouldn't be judged before the end of the World Cup, Argentina could end up winning it, which would hardly make Maradona a failure.
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I think that Maradona shouldn't be judged before the end of the World Cup, Argentina could end up winning it, which would hardly make Maradona a failure.

If France would've won in 06' would Domenech be a succes?
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Berkovic is good, but then again we need to see where his plans are. Berkovic cannot make the love/hate relationship with players. You gotta be on track.

A foreign coach is good but how much would he know about Israel? Koeman is alright, but i'd rather have keegan if it was an option....

That being said, we need someone who can have the balls to call in young players and atleast tell the vintage players or the players you would see to take a hike and improve their game.

Right now players dont see eye-to-eye with the team. We dont have players who actually want to play and we have proof of that...nothing really gets people in a momentum to represent the NT anymore and if it was down to it a foreign coach might be tempting to the players over an Israeli one.

I suggested that Berkovic should be Assistant Coach and a foreign coach should lead us so that we can do crazy improvements to our practice that no one has seen in Israel before!

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I suggested that Berkovic should be Assistant Coach and a foreign coach should lead us so that we can do crazy improvements to our practice that no one has seen in Israel before!
That wouldnīt be bad. Berkovic would be his consultant and getting the foreign coach to get to know the Israeli players well, while the latter would be the tactician.

The problem is Berkovic isnīt exactly the person known to be easy going and depending on the tense atmosphere of the qualifiers (believe me the pressure is bigger than ever) they could get on a harsh discussion.

The players want Berkovic, at least most of them do.
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I want no part of Berkovic. As an assistant coach, he'll undermine the coach, feel underutilized, criticize the coach and the management openly in the media. He's a loose canon. I want no part of him until he learns to behave himself professionally. The guy is off the hook right now.
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I want no part of Berkovic. As an assistant coach, he'll undermine the coach, feel underutilized, criticize the coach and the management openly in the media. He's a loose canon. I want no part of him until he learns to behave himself professionally. The guy is off the hook right now.
Yes, in this part there is a bit of risk. If he only had a less stronger personality maybe it would work. But i donīt think he would accept to be assistant, he stated he wants to be the head coach.

And now it is too late for him to learn how to behave this is his way since a player and in part most eople want him in the NT because he doesnīt fear anyone and he wouldnīt play cowardly.
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Berkovic was thrown off the NT when Benayoun joined because it was known that he won't accept the role of a second fiddle. Others did as they aged, but not him. I can't imagine he'll accept the role of an assistant and actually do his job properly. No to Berkovic.
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Berkovic was thrown off the NT when Benayoun joined because it was known that he won't accept the role of a second fiddle. Others did as they aged, but not him. I can't imagine he'll accept the role of an assistant and actually do his job properly. No to Berkovic.
Benayoun was like 23 or 22 when Berkovic left the NT

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Given the fact that Donadoni has agreed in principle to accept the job if offered, and they are also looking at Klinnsman and Rijkard, I dont see why the IFA should even consider Berkovic, especially since he has almost ZERO coaching experience, and is an idiot.

The NT does not need Berkovic. They need a foreign coach with no bias.
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I dont see why the IFA should even consider Berkovic, especially since he has almost ZERO coaching experience, and is an idiot.
LOL
Kashtan had a SH*TLOAD of coaching experience and was a bigger idiot.

I say we should give Berkovic a chance, simply because we've already tried the "experience" option... too many times... LOL You guys all know the results so there's no point of going into detail, but I have to say that our last campaign for the World Cup was just an EPIC FAIL, courtesy of one of Israel's most "experienced" coaches. That speaks for itself...

I watched Berkovic's press conference and he's clearly taking this very seriously. The fact that he mentions appointing an offensive and defensive coach shows that he's put a lot of thought into it. He knows that he has only 1 feature that no other Israeli coach has... And that is attitude. Most of the NT players want him and when they feed off of his attitude, Israel will be a very difficult team to deal with.

We have the talent. Our talent pool is expanding and more Israelis are playing abroad. The one thing we're missing is attitude. Our players give the other teams too much respect and they simply don't believe in themselves. That's exactly where Berkovic comes in...
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Kashtan had a SH*TLOAD of coaching experience and was a bigger idiot.
The key word here is idiot: let's not hire anymore. But honestly, I'd say that Berkovic is a bigger idiot of the two.
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We have the talent. Our talent pool is expanding and more Israelis are playing abroad. The one thing we're missing is attitude. Our players give the other teams too much respect and they simply don't believe in themselves. That's exactly where Berkovic comes in...
That is exactly the main point why i would support him as coach: His winning mentality. He will place that in the players and we would have better chances to beat the bigger teams in the crucial games.

The bad part and the one that concerns us all is the coaching experience, but as he stated in his press conference, he will hire two specialist coahces.

But i also wouldnīt be dissapointed if they appointed a foreign coach who would give us a little more knowledge in some aspects.
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