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Slovak teams in Europe, 2012/13 season

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UCL, 2. preliminary round (1st leg: July 17/18, 2nd leg July 24/25:

MŠK Žilina - Hapoel Ironi Kiryat Shmona (Israel)
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UEL, 1st preliminary round (1st leg: July 5th, 2nd leg July 12th)

FK Senica vs MTK Budapest
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UEL, 2nd preliminary round (1st leg: July 19th, 2nd leg July 26th)

Spartak Trnava vs Sliego Wanderers (Irl)
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UEL, 2nd preliminary round (1st leg: July 19th, 2nd leg July 26th)

Slovan Bratislava vs FC Videoton Fehervár
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What are your predictions Kazoo, any chance for progression into the next round for any of the teams?
I'm quietly confident Spartak will get over the line against Sligo but unsure about the other fixtures, how do Slovak teams match up historically against the Hungarians in European competion?
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I think Spartak gets through, they got the best draw out of all 4 Slovak teams. Spartak used to struggle in Europe but this time I´m confident they make it past 2nd preliminary. 85-15

No idea about the rest. I hope Slovan will make it too, but it will be difficult. Videoton invested a lot into their team and have a lot of interesting players in their roster. 50-50

As for Zilina, they seems to get lucky draw but thats just first impression. Israeli champ is no brand name in Europe but each israeli champ has it´s quality and this time it will be not different. 40-60

Senica won a friendly at MTK few days ago (2-3) but it´s hardly indicative as it was just a meaningless friendly of experimental squads. Have seen both teams to play last season, MTK walked through hungarian NB2 and made it to Hungarian Cup finals and left a good impression. They are good team, with solid transition game, with a good passing, trying to keep it flat, and with clinical finishing. They have a lot of experienced players and coach who managed hungarian biggest guns, incl.their NT. Despite MTK playing in NB2 only last season, I wouldnt be shocked to see them challenging for NB1 title this season. 50-50

These were the line-ups from MTK vs Senica game from few days ago:

MTK BUDAPEST–FK SENICA 2–3 (2–2)
Budapest, Hidegkuti Nándor Stadion, 150 att

MTK. 1st HT: Hegedűs L. – Nagy T., Vukmir, Kelemen D., Deutsch – Zsidai, Vadnai – Csiki, Kanta J., Rácz F. – Tischler.
2nd HT: Hegedűs L. – Szurkos, Kornis, Tóth F., Hajdú A. – Nikházi, Batizi-Pócsi – Vass P., Balajti, Frank R. – Lázok J.

SENICA: Sulla (Malec) – Krajcik (Fellary), Tidiane (Kruty), Stepánek, Fryclek (Ambra) – Krivko (Gouth), Kóna – Ferny, Blackburn (Stora), Kalabiska – Masaryk

Goals: Kanta J. (2) - ill. Blackburn (2), Kalabiska
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as for historical confrontation, no idea. Remember that Gyor eliminated Nitra 2 or 3 seasons ago.
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Hello guys, well as you must know Israeli champions Ironi Kiriat Shmona were drawn with Zilina for the Champions League qualifiers.

In Israel there is a mix feeling since they could have been drawn in theory against tougher oppoenents but on the other hand the fact that Zilina has played in the Group Stage couple of years ago and being a constant figure in Europe worries a bit.

What are your expectations and the reactions? How does Zilina come for this match and for this season on the Slovakian league?
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UEL, 1st preliminary round (1st leg: July 5th, 2nd leg July 12th)

FK Senica vs MTK Budapest
UEFA decided to change home/away venues.

1st leg is Budapest (July 5th) 2nd leg in Senica (July 12th)
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Hello guys, well as you must know Israeli champions Ironi Kiriat Shmona were drawn with Zilina for the Champions League qualifiers.

In Israel there is a mix feeling since they could have been drawn in theory against tougher oppoenents but on the other hand the fact that Zilina has played in the Group Stage couple of years ago and being a constant figure in Europe worries a bit.

What are your expectations and the reactions? How does Zilina come for this match and for this season on the Slovakian league?
welcome Berko.

Zilina has realistic expectations imo, they were put to their place after embarassing CL campaign 2 seasons ago. They are fully aware of strenght of israeli champ but want to progress. IMO they see it 50-50.

from their www (freely translated)

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I didnt want Hapoel Ironi Kirjat Šmona. Not a draw you would want, but we have to deal with it. It´s up to us to confirm why we were seeded team. We play 1st leg at home, and we should use this opportunity to kill the series by convincive win. Dont have any experience with israeli football. Just spoke to Mario Pecalka (Hapoel Tel Aviv) who said me that Kiryat Shmona is quality club that managed to leave powerhouses of israeli league behind them.


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Hapoel Kiryat is tough opponent, israeli football has it´s quality. We need to do our best to qualify to 3rd preliminary. Best way would be to seal the deal aready in the 1st leg

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Israeli league is quality. Many israeli clubs were succesfull in European competitions. Difficult to say if the home fixture is any sort of advantage for us. We need to get more informations about our opponent.
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Zilina´s pre-season so far:


MŠK Žilina - SV Ried (Austria) 0:1 (0:1)
MŠK Žilina - Tatran Liptovský Mikulᚠ4:0 (1:0)
MŠK Žilina - Sigma Olomouc (Czech rep) 2:2 (0:0)
MŠK Žilina - SK Dynamo České Budějovice (Czech rep) 3:0 (2:0)
MŠK Žilina - Rapid Bukurešť 1:1 (0:1)
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i seriously think IKS gonna win this one easily (dont be offended), the israeli league is much better than the slovak one atm, its not like 10 years ago when maccabi lost to Zilna in CL campaign after the team had "mini" bankrupt and fights between the players..

but if not, i will not be suprised since IKS is a small club with no fans at all and they got a realy small budget, but still they kept their squad from the last year - and they won historic championship with this squad
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welcome Berko.

Zilina has realistic expectations imo, they were put to their place after embarassing CL campaign 2 seasons ago. They are fully aware of strenght of israeli champ but want to progress. IMO they see it 50-50.

from their www (freely translated)

TomᚠMajtán, forward
I didnt want Hapoel Ironi Kirjat Šmona. Not a draw you would want, but we have to deal with it. It´s up to us to confirm why we were seeded team. We play 1st leg at home, and we should use this opportunity to kill the series by convincive win. Dont have any experience with israeli football. Just spoke to Mario Pecalka (Hapoel Tel Aviv) who said me that Kiryat Shmona is quality club that managed to leave powerhouses of israeli league behind them.


Stanislav Angelovič, defender
Hapoel Kiryat is tough opponent, israeli football has it´s quality. We need to do our best to qualify to 3rd preliminary. Best way would be to seal the deal aready in the 1st leg

Martin Dúbravka, goalkeeper
Israeli league is quality. Many israeli clubs were succesfull in European competitions. Difficult to say if the home fixture is any sort of advantage for us. We need to get more informations about our opponent.
Thank you very much for the welcome and the reply

Indeed, Kiriat Shmona had a very good season and were deserved champions as Tomas Majtan said leaving the powerhouses behind them. They kept most of their players but a big blow was a fight between the succesful coach Ran Ben Shimon with team owner Izi Shiratzki which eventually led to the coach departure. So i don´t at what point this will influence the team organization.

Kiriat Shmona has a solid defensive system conceding few goals. Like to play on fast counterattacks and has good aerial game (at least for Israeli standards, guess it won`t be so effective against Zilina or against any other central/eastern European teams).

They have two key players in midfield in which should be marked tightly, captain Adrian Rochet who is very slim player but has a very good pass and vision and David Solari (brother of former Internazionale and Argentina NT player Santiago Solari) who was one of the MVP´s of the league last season.

In my personal opinion the first game in Slovakia will dictate who will go through. If Zilina manages more than two goals lead i honestly don´t see Kiriat Shmona advancing.

As for the league, the main rivals are Slovan Bratislava right? Slovan is more traditional and Zilina a more recent success? Please forgive my ignorance on this issue.

Thanks once again
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you are more than welcome Berko thank you for insight about IKS, much appreciated.

Zilina is the most succesfull slovak team of the last decade, winning 6 titles since 2002. Their main competitor in 2000s used to be Artmedia, recently replaced by traditional Corgonliga big dog Slovan, most succesfull Slovak club ever. Trnava tries to make it´s comeback, clinching 2nd place in last season.
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i seriously think IKS gonna win this one easily (dont be offended), the israeli league is much better than the slovak one atm, its not like 10 years ago when maccabi lost to Zilna in CL campaign after the team had "mini" bankrupt and fights between the players..

but if not, i will not be suprised since IKS is a small club with no fans at all and they got a realy small budget, but still they kept their squad from the last year - and they won historic championship with this squad
neither team takes this one easily imo, IKS might have better squad but basically no international experience, which can play important role, especially in the opening Leg.
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you are more than welcome Berko thank you for insight about IKS, much appreciated.

Zilina is the most succesfull slovak team of the last decade, winning 6 titles since 2002. Their main competitor in 2000s used to be Artmedia, recently replaced by traditional Corgonliga big dog Slovan, most succesfull Slovak club ever. Trnava tries to make it´s comeback, clinching 2nd place in last season.
Thank you very much for the information. Well it should be a tight one anyways. Did Zilina already start their pre season?

Regarding your NT what are the expectations for the upcoming qualifiers?
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neither team takes this one easily imo, IKS might have better squad but basically no international experience, which can play important role, especially in the opening Leg.
Very true, domestic and european cup football are two completely different things with different tactics, mentality etc. Sure a strong squad helps but as you pointed out Kajoo that experience is sometimes vital in progressing past those tricky early qualifying rounds.

In saying that, I am not convinced Zilina will progress too far, even if I will be following them out of an interest for Slovak football. If Majtan and Pich can show early on against Kiriat that they have goals in them it may be a different story but we will wait and see.
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Majtan is still sidelined, he underwent OP of his arm and should be avalaible only for 2nd leg.
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Thank you very much for the information. Well it should be a tight one anyways. Did Zilina already start their pre season?
yes they´ve already started pre-season, and played 5 friendlies, see post #12

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Regarding your NT what are the expectations for the upcoming qualifiers?
everyone believes we could make it, both Greeks and Bosnians are doable on a good day.
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