World Cup G3: SLOVAKIA vs ITALY in Jo´burg, Thursday June 24th, 16.00 cet - Xtratime Community
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post #1 of 78 (permalink) Old June 12th, 2010, 01:08 Thread Starter
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World Cup G3: SLOVAKIA vs ITALY in Jo´burg, Thursday June 24th, 16.00 cet

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Venue: Ellis Park Stadium
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Park_Stadium

Ellis Park Stadium, also known because of its sponsorship by The Coca-Cola Company as Coca-Cola Park, is a rugby union and association football stadium in the city of Johannesburg, Gauteng Province, South Africa. It hosted the final of the 1995 Rugby World Cup, which was won by the country's national team, the Springboks. The large stadium was the country's most modern when it was upgraded in 1982 to accommodate almost 60,000 people. Today, the stadium hosts both football and rugby, and is also used as a venue for other large events, such as open-air concerts. It has become synonymous with rugby as the only time when rugby was not played at Ellis Park was during 1980 and 1981 when the stadium was under construction during an upgrade.

The stadium was originally named after Mr J.D. Ellis who made the area for the stadium available. Following a ZAR 450 million (USD 58 million/£30 million) naming rights deal with The Coca-Cola Company in 2008, the name of the stadium was officially changed to Coca-Cola Park.[4]

League, provincial, and international games have all been played at the stadium, and it has seen such teams as Brazil, Manchester United and Arsenal play. Ellis Park Stadium is the centerpiece of a sporting sector in the south-east of Johannesburg, where it neighbours Johannesburg Stadium (athletics), Standard Bank Arena (tennis), and an Olympic-class swimming pool.

Ellis Park is home to the following teams:

* Orlando Pirates, (Premier Soccer League) [1][3]
* Lions (Cats until September 2006), Super 14 Southern Hemisphere rugby competition
* Golden Lions, Currie Cup domestic rugby competition[2]
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A possible issue looking forward...

Buffon suffers serious back problem?
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Poor Buffon, I like the guy. Great keeper.
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Poor Buffon, I like the guy. Great keeper.
Great keeper. I would be entirely okay if he did not play against Slovakia though.
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frankly, Buffon is the last italian player that makes me worries
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frankly, Buffon is the last italian player that makes me worries
Slovakia will take all the advantages it can get though, right? :smileani:
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sure we take it and run. Gigi Buffon is big loss for Italy, but I still feel sorry for him. He´s legend
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While Buffon will likely be out for the rest of the World Cup, Pirlo is aiming to make a return for the Slovakia match.
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Pirlo is the best gypsy footballer in the World and one of the best deep-lying playmakers in the World.

That´s exactly the position we are missing on quality that badly.

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Can Slovakia show the same heart/mentality/spirit/conviction/lack of fear as Algeria/Switzerland/North Korea. If they can, then they have the chance, simple as that!
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Can Slovakia show the same heart/mentality/spirit/conviction/lack of fear as Algeria/Switzerland/North Korea. If they can, then they have the chance, simple as that!
I am ignorant and blinded as can be, but I believe they can.

Qualifying for the World Cup was one thing. Leading in their first match was another. It was a learning experience and, hopefully, they are the better for it. Slovakia have quality, both young and veteran. The Repre can do this.

I still believe they take four (4) points from the remaining two matches.
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Can Slovakia show the same heart/mentality/spirit/conviction/lack of fear as Algeria/Switzerland/North Korea. If they can, then they have the chance, simple as that!
We´ll get 4 damn points and go through
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S L O V E N S K O ! ! !


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We´ll get 4 damn points and go through
Well let's see it then. Benching Durica is step 1 IMO. Also, can Hamsik do something for this team? Right now he looks to be very overrated, at least do something like Donovan did today and bring your team back into the match!
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Well let's see it then. Benching Durica is step 1 IMO
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Well let's see it then. Benching Durica is step 1 IMO. Also, can Hamsik do something for this team? Right now he looks to be very overrated, at least do something like Donovan did today and bring your team back into the match!
he actually IS overrated on the position he plays in NT, that is btw different than in club. This one stupid mistake at the end didn´t made him worse player, just exposed his lack of defensive work.

In Napoli, he isn´t loaded with defensive duties. They have found his natural position seems on AM. In NT, Weiss tries to convert him into playmaker with defensive duties. Unfortunately for NT, we doesn´t have player with extra lungs covering his ass like Gargano in Napoli. Hamsik shall play up to his potential only when our NT finds class deep-lying playmaker and he returns back to AM. Karhan is pure DM with limited playmaking abilities, as is Strba, plus both are too old. Kopunek is another pure DM. Who else...Kucka ? Has nice run-ins into the box but again, he´s no playmaker.

This is destiny of a small NT´s with no depth, once you have 2 great players on 1 position (LBK Zabavnik/Cech f.e.) and on another position you are left with no options. Weiss tries hard, and he did good job so far, with exception of his blind belief in Durica.
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Slovakia use to play 4-4-1-1, with 1 DM, 1 playmaker with defensive duties (Hamsik), 2 wingers (Stoch, Weiss), lonely Vittek upfront, with Sestak/Holosko behind him as a withdrawn striker. Hamsik has limited offensive support from DM and usually small trafic upfront caused by our passive strikers.

If we could replace DM with quality deep-lying playmaker, who combines DM with playmaker and covers big area, we could give Hamsik the freedom he needs for supporting attack. At the same time, we need better strikers upfront, creating havoc in opponent´s zone. With no traffic upfront, Hamsik can´t make his nice run-ins into the disturbed defence.

Main reason why Hamsik looks so ineffective in NT is that he has defensive duties and makes his run-ins into well-organised defence.
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Slovakia use to play 4-4-1-1, with 1 DM, 1 playmaker with defensive duties (Hamsik), 2 wingers (Stoch, Weiss), lonely Vittek upfront, with Sestak/Holosko behind him as a withdrawn striker. Hamsik has limited offensive support from DM and usually small trafic upfront caused by our passive strikers.

If we could replace DM with quality deep-lying playmaker, who combines DM with playmaker and covers big area, we could give Hamsik the freedom he needs for supporting attack. At the same time, we need better strikers upfront, creating havoc in opponent´s zone. With no traffic upfront, Hamsik can´t make his nice run-ins into the disturbed defence.

Main reason why Hamsik looks so ineffective in NT is that he has defensive duties and makes his run-ins into well-organised defence.
Looking forward to Euro 2012 and beyond, are there other players in the U20 or lower who can be groomed to fill these obvious holes?
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I don´t see anyone step up on this position.

Sure we have some interesting names but mostly of them are wingers/strikers...(Mak, Lalkovič, Vojtuš...)
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allrite ladies & gentlemen, it´s our last game on this Tournament so let´s enjoy it.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts


Doesn´t matter how the game ends, let´s all be thankfull for this World Cup appearance that followed the 17 years of international drought. All good.
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