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This is rare, a football fan who actually wants his club to sell players!
Nicky Butt to Derby
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post #22 of 1829 (permalink) Old August 30th, 2002, 20:43 Thread Starter
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Yeah i knew that was not a true transfer. We need to sell players to get some money, we are in serious debt.
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Big game tommorow for Derby County! A must-win game against midlands rivals Stoke City. We have to win this game no matter what. good news is that Chris Riggott is back and hopefully Mart Poom can finally start as the goalkeeper. I'll have the strting line-ups and the preview of the game tommorow. Lets hope this will be a good game for the Rams!
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I heard that Derby county got Nikky Butt Is this true or just a lie? It's not on the website but its in the Derby Evening Telegraph. I hope its not true because we don't need him, we got plenty of defenders.
I would say this is not true
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Line-Up for Derby in the match against Stoke City

-------------------------------POOM-----------------------------
---BARTON----HIGGINBOTHAM---RIGGOTT----JACKSON

-----------------MURRAY--------------------------BOERTEIN------
----------------LEE-----------------------------------BOLDER

-----------CHRISTIE-------------------------------STRUPAR

Subs: Andy Oakes, Gary Twigg, Brian O'Niell, Ian Evatt, Georgi Kinkladze .

WE MUST WIN! WE MUST WIN! WE MUST WIN! WE MUST WIN!
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HALF TIME: The score is 0-0 but Derby should of scored 3 or 4 goals! We hit the post twice (Christie and Murray), and Strupar created many good chances. I am dissapointed with Warren Barton today. He is not creating chances and not crossing the ball into the box. He has been very quiet today, we need to get him in the action to create some good goals. I still say 2-0 Derby County with Chrisite scoring both!!
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FTERBY COUNTY V STOKE CITY (Saturday 31st August)

From Pride Park Stadium

DERBY COUNTY 2
Christie 81,83

STOKE CITY 0

HT: 0-0

Attendance: 21,723

This was the first lunchtime kick-off of the season for John Gregory’s side but Stoke goalkeeper Neil Cutler gave the Rams a bout of severe indigestion until Malcolm Christie dissolved all fear of a goalless afternoon with a pair of late goals that gave the Rams a deserved win in front of their home support.

It really was a case of Cutler’s last stand for the Potters, apart from four top-drawer saves, the former Aston Villa goalkeeper was twice saved by the woodwork as Derby dominated this contest from start to finish. For all their great approach play though the Rams were still level as the game entered the final ten minutes.

Cutler was beginning to look unbeatable as Derby pummelled the Stoke box but Christie found the way past him as he flicked home Branko Strupar’s knockdown and the under-21 international doubled up with a cool left-foot finish from a Giorgi Kinkladze throughball two minutes later as Derby got their reward for an afternoon of disciplined attacking football.

John Gregory made four changes to his side for this midday kick-off at Pride Park Stadium. The comebacks of Chris Riggott and Mart Poom had been expected while Richard Jackson reclaimed the left-back spot from the transferred Grenet. Gregory opted for the solidity of Adam Murray in preference to Lee Morris and Giorgi Kinkladze joined Brian O’Neil on the bench for the first time this season.

Stoke kicked off without Sol Oulare and with a small but vocal support in the South stand that was emptier than normal at an understandably subdued Pride Park. It took five minutes before the Rams threatened, Paul Boertien – playing on the left of midfield -won a throw-in deep in Stoke territory. Jackson’s long throw was flicked on by Branko Strupar and Adam Bolder headed narrowly over from close range.

Last year’s play-off winners had a muscular look throughout their side and the Rams were looking at an early battle for control. Christie showed the way by shaking off two heavy challenges to win a corner that Cutler had to tip over as Boertien swung it goalwards with nine minutes on the watch. The Stoke keeper then miscued a clearance but Strupar could not capitalise.

Derby won another corner on the quarter-hour mark when Barton combined with Bolder to put in a deep swinging cross that Wayne Thomas headed to safety. Branko Strupar was once again winning his fair share of ball in the air and Christie might have done better when the Belgium international chested down Rob Lee’s pass on the penalty spot. Christie fired in his shot that Potters’ skipper Peter Handyside blocked.

Lee was beginning to stamp his mark on the midfield area and he initiated another move by robbing Brynjar Gunnarsson before triggering a rapid passing move that ended with Christie warming Cutler’s hands from the edge of the box. The first-half was now almost at the midway point and the Rams were yet to create a clear cut opportunity.

Chris Riggott was showing no signs of his lay-off but he was stretched as Marc Goodfellow almost found Karl Henry with his cross and Poom then had to gather from James O’Connor as Stoke found their range with 26 minutes on the clock.

In response, Malcolm Christie showed the pace and balance that won him England under-21 caps as he ran fifty yards from box to box before Clive Clarke finally pulled him down. Referee Mathieson judged no yellow card necessary and Thomas headed Boertien’s free-kick clear before Lee hit wide.

The Rams then came closest to opening the score when Christie released Strupar but Cutler blocked away Strupar's shot superbly with his knees from what was the Rams best chance of the match – until a minute later.

This time Paul Boertien found space on the left to put in a superb cross that Strupar met on the six-yard line only to see Cutler somehow turn the ball to safety as the East Stand rose to celebrate. The Stoke goalkeeper was then on hand as Riggott closed in on a deep cross from Barton.

Henry then hit a shot well over the bar for Steve Cotterill's side after a corner as John Gregory urged on his men. The Rams were threatening at will now and Adam Murray slid in a cross that Christie smashed against the underside of the bar but it somehow bounced to safety with Cutler at last beaten.

Stoke responded with a left-wing cross that Poom punched away but the game was heading towards the break deadlocked at 0-0. Adam Bolder already has two goals to his name this season and he hit a low shot that Cutler grabbed after Murray and Christie had eked out an opening on the edge of the box.

There were worried looks all round as Chris Riggott was led away clutching his knee but the 21 year-old defender announced his return to the action with a pair of crunching tackles before the two teams went in level.

Derby were unchanged after the half-time break and emerged from the tunnel first with an air of determination about them but the first chance of the second-half fell to Stoke with Goodfellow rounding Poom but hitting the side-netting from a very acute angle.

Stoke had begun the second-half with a lot more confidence than the first and the Rams were being forced back into their own half. Derby launched Boertien on the left but Wayne Thomas did well to cover as Christie made ground in the middle. The former Nuneaton man then put Boertien away into the box but Clarke did superbly to clear as Murray bombed in from the right on to his low cross. Stoke were working hard and with the first fifth of the second half gone they were hanging on to a clean sheet.

Astonishingly, Warren Barton was the first name in the referees book following an innocuous push on Kris Commons in front of the East Stand as the game headed towards the hour mark and John Gregory called for Kinkladze who was roared into the action by the Derby faithful who also gave Adam Murray a thankful reception as he departed.

It was the Georgian’s first appearance of the campaign after a fine performance for the reserves in midweek and he immediately won a free-kick from Thomas. Higginbotham was then alert to head back a Thomas throughball to Poom with Goodfellow in attendance.

Rob Lee then brought the crowd to life, he exchanged passes with Barton and jinked out to bring a fine save from Cutler. The ball looped up towards Christie who hit a fine volley from a tight angle but the ball smashed against the post and away to safety with the goalkeeper beaten. The Rams were pouring forward and Kinkladze slipped in Christie who should have done better in a one-on-one with Cutler but the keeper managed to block out the ball and although Derby got a corner the scoreboard still showed 0-0 and 65 minutes gone.

Strupar seemed to have dropped deeper with Kinkladze supporting Christie and when the ball fell to the Georgian on the half-way line he evaded one challenge before feeling the full weight of a second and he had to receive treatment on the touchline before returning.

The Stoke fans screamed for handball as Riggott blocked out Goodfellow before Kinkladze jinked into the Stoke area at the other end but as his support players lined up the Georgian’s low cross fell to safety and the Potters’ goal remained intact once again with only twenty minutes remaining.

Richard Jackson had played solidly at left-back and he now ventured forward to run on to Strupar’s lay-off after patient build-up play between Barton and Kinkladze. Jackson ducked inside on to his right foot and hit a rasping shot that was only a yard away from giving John Gregory’s side a precious advantage. Lee then ploughed through the Stoke midfield linw but his left-foot effort looped harmlessly wide of Cutler's goal as the Rams continued to press.

Riggott was continuing to dominate at the back for the Rams and he won a free-kick from a frustrated Cooke but the main frustrations were for Derby as they looked no nearer getting a goal despite their dominance. Cutler came out to claim Barton’s cross before Strupar and Lee earnt their skipper the room to win a corner with ten minutes to go and finally the Rams went ahead.

Boertien’s initial cross was cleared but the Rams did very well to patiently work the ball back to the left-back who swung a deep cross towards Strupar. The Belgium striker held off Handysides and headed the ball down into space superbly where Malcolm Christie nipped in to flick the ball past Cutler and spark joyous celebrations.

Stoke kicked-off but within two minutes Derby had doubled their lead. With the Potters forced to attack for the first time in a bid to get back into the game Derby punished them with a classic breakaway goal. Lee and Boertien squeezed the space in the middle and the ball broke to Bolder who slipped in Kinkladze.

With Strupar as the decoy Kinkladze provided the killer ball to Christie who coolly slotted home with his left foot as Cutler raced out to narrow the angle. After eighty minutes of sweat and disappointment the Rams were home and hosed in a two-minute burst of incisive football.

The Potters did respond and only a brave block from Richard Jackson denied them a consolation as the game headed into the final seconds but John Gregory's men had earnt their win and with a second clean sheet of the season also achieved the Rams will be looking forward to the visit of Burnley next weekend.

Referee: S.Mathieson

Attendance: 21,723

Teams:

Derby County: Poom – Barton (Captain); Higginbotham; Riggott; Jackson; Boertien; Lee; Bolder; Murray – (Kinkladze 58 Strupar; Christie – (Evatt 90).

Subs: Oakes; Twigg; Evatt; Kinkladze; O’Neil

Stoke City: Cutler; Thomas; Clarke; Handyside; Shtaniuk; Gunnarsson; Cooke;O’Connor; Goodfellow; Henry; Commons - (Gudjonsson 83)

Subs: Viander, Gudjonsson, Iwelumo; Marteinsson; Vendeurzen.

Booked: Barton 57
DERBY COUNTY 2 STOKE CITY 0
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Well now that we know Kinkladze can actually play and John Gregory is giving him a chance, the question is should we start Kinky or put him on the bench?? I would say start him and leave Morris on the bench. If Morris can't do one thing in the 90 minutes he plays let Kinky take his place. Kinkladze played better in his 20 minutes of action than Morris in his 4 games. The new line-up for Derby County should be:

Formation: 4-4-2

Poom
Barton--Riggott--Higginbotham--O'Niell

Murray------------------------Boertein
Bolder------------------------Kinkladze

Ravanelli--------------------Christie

Subs: Oakes, Strupar, Lee, Evatt, Jackson/Elliot

Lets hope John Gregory doesn't start Richard Jackson (i really like him but he's not ready for the 1st team yet) and i also hope that Gregory decides to put in Kinkladze, because he's proven that he can provide good play. Put Morris and Lee on the bench!
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Hmm the wings are strong but the centre looks a bit 'hollow' ?

I thought Derby will be one of the better teams this season, how are your players reacting to playing in Div 1? Anyone not cutting the mustard?
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It seems like not everyone is playing up to there potential. The young players are the only guys who seem to want to play. All the "premiership" players say they want to play in Division 1 but i don't think they really want to.
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Well it looks like Poom and Kinkladze will not play for the team in Saturdays game against Burnley. Poom will be playing goalkeeper for Estonia is there game against Croatia . GO CROATIA!!! And Kinkladze will play for the Georgia NT. Well i guess we are gonna have to see Andy Oakes in goal again .
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Scottish international Brian O'Neil will be looking to continue building his fitness when Derby County reserves travel to the City Ground tonight.

The Rams face Nottingham Forest in the FA Premier Reserve League South (7pm).

French defender Youl Mawene also returns after missing the last game due to a knee injury, while Lee Morris is also included.

Derby County Reservers (from): Grant, Hunt, Palmer, Mills, Mawene, Morris, O'Neil, Evatt, Twigg, Tudgay, Robinson, Molloy, McArdle, Weckstrom, McLeod, Camp.


Half the team is basically first team players. Good to see O'Neil play, this will be his first game since the pre-season game against Notts County.
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Derby County players have not been paid at all for the first month of the new season. I knew they were in a bad state financially but not that bad!

There is even a rumour that John Gregory had to pay a hotel bill about of his own pocket during an away trip!
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Yes, when John Gregory and the Rams went to Grimsby, john gregory i think had to pay 2,000 pounds for hotel rooms for the whole team and the staff! Well good news for the reserve team, even though we only tied 2-2, Lee Morris and Brian O'Niel had very good games. Lee Morris scored the 2nd Derby goal and he will probally make the line-up for Saturday's game against Burnley. Brian O'Niel may make the line-up for the game. It depends if Gregory wants to start either Boertien or Jackson, if he doesn't start any of those 2 he will definetly start O'Niel
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Manchester City have been linked with a move for Derby defender Danny Higginbotham after he activated a release clause in his contract.
The former Manchester United player invoked the clause after Derby defaulted on payment of players' wages and is understood to have expressed a desire to return to the North West.
City boss Kevin Keegan has long been linked with a move for Higginbotham and remains on the trail of defensive reinforcements after trialist Taribo West failed to secure a move to Maine Road last month.
Derby's problems began on Wednesday morning when it was confirmed that players were entitled to serve notice of termination of their contracts if the Rams defaulted on payment of wages.
It was revealed over the weekend that players had not received payment for August and stories began to circulate during the course of the day that one player had decided to follow that route, although there was no indication as to who it was.
As the afternoon wore on rumours started to gain strength that the player in question was Higginbotham, although the club initially refused to comment.
Despite the fact the move has shocked, and in some cases alienated supporters who voted him their Player of the Season last term, there are various theories as to why he has taken the step that he has.
The terms of the contracts suggest that if, having defaulted on payment, the money is found by the club in the 14-day period, then Higginbotham's actions will be negated - and it could well be that he has taken the action in order to force the hand of the parties involved in the takeover negotiations.
Higginbotham said in a statement: "It is with regret that I feel forced into serving my notice to Derby County Football Club for breach of contract.
"I believe that it is in my interest, those of the club and our supporters that I must take this action to force some kind of conclusion to the uncertainty hanging over everyone at the club.
"I did not take this decision lightly and I have spoken with various people both inside and outside the club and they fully support my action.
"I will continue to give my usual 100% for Derby County and I am fully focused on the Burnley game this weekend, which is vital to the players and the fans. I look forward to seeing the club back in a healthier state."
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Well the players will be paid there wages Friday morning, so i hope at least a FEW! of them will be happy now
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The Rams make just one change from the side that began against Stoke City last week with Andy Oakes coming in to the side in goal for Mart Poom.

Poom is on duty in the European Championships today and with Georgi Kinkladze also away with his country Lee Morris returns to the Rams bench.

Line-Up:

Oakes
Barton-Riggott-Higginbotham-Jackson
Murray-Bolder-Lee-Boertein
Christie-Strupar

Subs:
Morris
Grant
O’Neil
Evatt
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Didnt know Higginbotham was ex- Man U.....was he a trainee or somethin'?
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He was usally a reserve player or a sub on the first team for ManU like 2-3 years ago. I think he only played maybe 5 games for them, until he became a starter for Derby County.
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