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DERBY V West Ham @ PPS 10.11.07

Well we're now desperate for something out of this game, and apparently this is a game we should win

The way we've played in the last 2 games we wouldn't have beaten many Championship sides.

I hate to sound like a broken record, but... FOR **** SAKE BILLY, PLAY BLOODY FEILHABER!!!!!!

I'd also like to see Jones in midfield and Earnshaw upfront with Miller, Billy might have worried that these players might make us too lightweight, but teams walk through us like we're not there anyway, so lets at least get the good footballers on the pitch, and show people we can play a bit.

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I dont belive in jinxing mate, I do belive in playing at home with a 2-0 advantage against a team which I cant see scoring 2 goals!

Of course, if we lose, I'll never admit it was me who wrote this.
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Right, here's my all change starting line up for saturday, as promised for Durkos This will of course be nothing like the actual line up, as myself and Billy clearly don't read from the same page, but anyway... (This also assumes everyone is fit)

Well, after a few minutes of trying, I've failed to fit a team into a 4-4-2, which looked right, now that's very worrying.

So, I'm going completely diferent back to the Bald Eagle days...


------------------ Price ---------------------

---------- Leacock - Todd - Davies-----------

Mears -------------------------------- Pearson

------------- Feilhaber - Jones ---------------

--------------------- Barnes -----------------

--------------- Miller - Earnshaw -------------

Bit of old school 5 at the back but with Pearson and Mears as wing backs you know they will get forward and support, 3 centre halfs to hopefully stop teams walking through the middle of us like theres no-ones there.

Feilhaber and Jones in the middle to knock the ball around, the big decision would be too drop Oakley, maybe you would keep him in ahead of Jones to make us more solid, but AI would like to see Jones given a chance.

Barnes in the free role where he can be most effective, with 2 strikers ahead of him.

Well, it can't do any worse than what we're doing at the moment

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Of course, if we lose, I'll never admit it was me who wrote this.
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In fairness Jimbo... that is a not bad line-up considering the options we currently have at the club.. I certaintly like using Barnes in that 'free' role just behind the 2 strikers, would possibly work quite effectively

But as Jimbo says, will we every see a line-up like this... HIGHLY UNLIKELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is really hoping one day we will create footballer's who are actually creative rather than have 'great' engines...is that hard to ask
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MILLER MAKING PROGRESS
Posted on: Tue 06 Nov 2007

Kenny Miller has taken part in light training as he looks to make his return from a groin injury.

The Scottish striker was ruled out of Saturday's defeat at Aston Villa after picking up the problem during the previous week's game with Everton.

Now he's setting his sights towards the visit of West Ham to Pride Park this weekend.

"Kenny has done a little light training and I am much more hopeful on him this week than I was last week," said Rams boss Billy Davies.

"If he can keep that progress going and there are no reactions between now and then he could be part of the plans at the weekend."

Defender Claude Davis was forced off at Villa Park having picked up an abductor muscle injury during the first half.

Davies rates the Jamaican's chances as "touch and go" ahead of the West Ham game.


Hopefully Miller can play some part, Davis seems to have been strugglingfor a while and keeps coming off in games, would probably better to let him rest and get it sorted properly, would help if Todd was fit though, I still don't like seeing Darren Moore on a premiership football pitch.

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Of course, if we lose, I'll never admit it was me who wrote this.
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SPINAL SPECIALIST FOR ANDY
Posted on: Wed 07 Nov 2007

Experienced defender Andy Todd will see a spinal specialist today as he bids to get to the bottom of the back and hamstring problems that have been troubling him in recent weeks.

The 33-year-old hasn't featured for the Rams since the defeat to Liverpool on September 1 after being struck by the injury.

He has been training but won't make his first-team return until everything is cleared and he is 100 per cent ready.

Derby boss Billy Davies said: "Andy has been training but he still feels uncomfortable so we won't be playing him unless everything is right.

"We've had a number of people up to take a look at him but the problem hasn't been solved so we thought it would be best for Andy to see a spinal specialist."

Todd has started five Premier League games this season and scored one goal, the opening-day leveller to earn a 2-2 draw at home to Portsmouth.


Bloody hell, what is it with us and signing players who turn into cripples Looks like he won't be involved in this game either, and it will be more of Darren Moore, though to be fair he might do alright against someone like Carlton Cole. And the West Ham fans say all they does of hoof it these days, which will play right into Moore's hands.

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West Ham have a massive injury list at the moment, key players like Bellamy and Ashton out, so there's no better time to be playing them.
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MATCH PREVIEW: DERBY v WEST HAM
Posted on: Thu 08 Nov 2007

Both sides will want to head into the November international break on the back of a good result.

The Hammers are unbeaten in four but were frustratingly denied at the death in their last outing when Kevin Nolan earned a stoppage-time point for Bolton.

Derby are without a victory since the 1-0 win over Newcastle in September but also know that three points on Saturday will ensure they stay right in touch with the teams immediately above them.

MATCH QUOTE


Matthew Etherington told www.whufc.com: "We are looking to go there (Derby) and win.

"To have 15 points is not a bad start but it could be better. We will hopefully get a few of the injured players back and get three points at Derby.

"It is important to get in the top half - instead of looking behind you are looking above.

"We want to be pushing up the league this season and not be looking behind us."

TEAM NEWS

Derby are hopeful that Scottish striker Kenny Miller will be available to face the Hammers.

Miller missed out on last week's defeat at Aston Villa with a hamstring problem but has been making progress this week.

Claude Davis damaged an abductor muscle at Villa and was rated as "touch and go" earlier this week by boss Billy Davies.

Davies is also waiting on the results of Andy Todd's visit to a spinal specialist on Wednesday.

The experienced defender has been suffering from niggling back and hamstring problems over recent weeks and hasn't played for the first-team since September.

West Ham's treatment room might as well have a booking system, such is their list of injury problems at the moment.

Kieron Dyer, Scott Parker, Dean Ashton, Julien Faubert, Freddie Ljungberg, Craig Bellamy, Bobby Zamora, Anton Ferdinand and Mark Noble all missed the Bolton draw.

Hayden Mullins was forced off during Sunday's game with a foot injury.

MATCH FACTS

The overall record between the two clubs couldn't be much tighter with Derby enjoying 23 wins, West Ham notching 24, alongside 25 draws.

Derby took four points from the Hammers the last time they met, in 2004/05, with a 1-1 draw at Pride Park and a 2-1 win at the Boleyn Ground.

The Rams' last home win against West Ham came in December 1997 when Dean Sturridge netted in a 2-0 success.

Stephen Bywater played as a Hammer in this fixture back in September 2004 and now he is set to line up in Rams colours.

Tyrone Mears remains on 99 career league outings with Manchester City, Preston, West Ham and Derby after not being used last week at Aston Villa.

Eddie Lewis is also still one short of a milestone - he currently sits on 249 English games since arriving on these shores.

Matt Oakley is set for his 50th league appearance in Derby colours, while Steve Howard will reach 450 career league starts if he lines up from the off.

THE REFEREE

Mark Clattenburg blows the whistle at Pride Park for the first time since the 0-0 draw with Crewe Alexandra in March 2004.

He's done a couple of away games since then, the last coming at the start of 2006/07 when he took charge at the Britannia Stadium as the Rams went down 2-0 at Stoke City.

This season Clattenburg has overseen ten games, including the Manchester, Merseyside and North London derbies.

He's issued 32 yellow cards, along with three reds in his last two outings.

Two of those came in a fiery game at Goodison as Liverpool picked up a controversial last-minute 2-1 win at Everton.

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I dont belive in jinxing mate, I do belive in playing at home with a 2-0 advantage against a team which I cant see scoring 2 goals!

Of course, if we lose, I'll never admit it was me who wrote this.
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Andy Todd is having yet more scans so you can definately rule him out, and it doesn't sound very good for Davis either, so it looks certain to be Moore and Leacock at the back. I have a feeling it will be with Mears and Griffen as full backs.

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Bah, they're all as bad as each other if you ask me

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No, Bywater's just been crap this season, keeps letting soft goals in, and we have enough trouble without that. And his inability to kick the ball is very worrying, especially at this level. I'd just like to see Price given a chance, we brought the guy in and he's not even played a game, not even in the Carling Cup to show what he can do, but Davies has given everyone else a run out, even the likes of Malcolm and Camara, I even remember Macken on the bench for one game

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Lawro's prediction

Derby v West Ham

I still think Derby are, unfortunately, doomed but the law of averages says Billy Davies' side will win again sometime and I reckon it could happen this weekend.

West Ham seem to be running out of players. They have got injuries in every area and they have still got only Carlton Cole available to play up front.

Prediction: 2-0




I don't believe it, Lawrenson predicting us too win, I never thought I'd see the day.

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Well to be honest... you could say we play as worse as we are at the moment... so you could say, we are due a very much needed-home win. West Ham are going to be short of confidence especially after conceding in the last minuted to Bolton at the weekend

For some reason Im actually quielty confident we will get somethin out of 2moro's game.. a win would be tremendous, it really would :thmbup:

If we play positively.. I reckon we are in with a good shout definatley!!

Is really hoping one day we will create footballer's who are actually creative rather than have 'great' engines...is that hard to ask
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If we play positively.. I reckon we are in with a good shout definatley!!
That's a big IF, if we played with a positive team selection and in a positive manner, we might well have been in with a good shout in some other games.

I expect Howard or Miller up front on their own and the continuation of lumping aimless long balls sadly, I would love to be proved wrong though.

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I will actually predict a win, we have to rebound from these two past awful performances, if we see another Everton or another Aston Villa performance next week, then Derby are seriously doomed.

My prediction is also 2:0, Miller with both goals
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Says on Sky Davis is definately out, see Leacock will be at the back and not in his midfield...maybe that will see Feilhaber brought in but I won't hold my breath.

Not many tickets left again, and could be another 33,000 crowd, certainly a 32,000, even with the doom and gloom we continue to turn up

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I don't believe Lawrenson has picked us to win, must be a first.
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5 changes, one up front, and Marc Edworthy makes his first start, joj the back four :nervous: McEveley on the bench but he is not fit

Bywater
Mears - Moore - Edworthy - Griffin
Teale - Barnes - Oakley - Pearson - Lewis
Miller

Subs: McEveley (not fully fit), Howard, Earnshaw, Fagan, Jones

Miller won't last 90 minutes, Jones on the bench, still no Feilhaber!!
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5 changes, one up front, and Marc Edworthy makes his first start, joj the back four :nervous: McEveley on the bench but he is not fit

Bywater
Mears - Moore - Edworthy - Griffin
Teale - Barnes - Oakley - Pearson - Lewis
Miller

Subs: McEveley (not fully fit), Howard, Earnshaw, Fagan, Jones

Miller won't last 90 minutes, Jones on the bench, still no Feilhaber!!

That team right their.. would struggle to beat Championship sides nevermind Premier League... and what the hell Marc Edworthy :notlist: :notlist: :notlist:

What is going on!!!!!!!

Is really hoping one day we will create footballer's who are actually creative rather than have 'great' engines...is that hard to ask
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30 minutes in, Derby dominating in possession but not one shot on target heck not even one shot!
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West Ham score twice in a span of 3-4 minutes, 3:0 to them...wow Derby might as well drop tomorrow
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