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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old March 1st, 2007, 00:29 Thread Starter
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XCC 2006/07: Bonus round - the experiment (2./3./4.3.)

Have you ever wondered if it's possible to manipulate football-lottery? I guess something like that exsist in many countries and usually you have to predict a certain number of games correctly - in Austria it's called "Toto" and you have to predict correctly 10+ out of 12 to win something - an almost "impossible" task. But how much influence do the games they pick have on the results? That's what I'd like to "test" in this bonus round and your help (= predictions) is very appreciated.

I picked this 12 games, that I think are rather obvious to predict, with one of the teams being the favourite. But as we know, there are usually some surprising results as well. Do you think we can "create" one or more winners who pick the correct surprise-results and have all 12 games correctly?

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ESP: Valencia - Celta Vigo
FRA: Sochaux - Nantes
GER: Schalke 04 - Hamburger SV
GER: Werder Bremen - Bochum
ITA: Ascoli - Roma
POR: Aves - Benfica
NED: PSV - RKC Waalwijk
SCO: Celtic - Dunfermline
BEL: Beveren - Genk
BEL: Gent - Lierse
SUI: Schaffhausen - FC Zurich
UKR: Shakthar Donetsk - Zorya


You can use the PL-system to predict.


P.S.: This round doesnot in any way count for XCC 2006/07, I'm just using the opportunity of a big audience.
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Hm, 10 out of 12 looks pretty tough, also with these games. I think you won't get 10 with only betting on the favourites.

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nice one TGV.

I see games like Shalke 04 vs Hamburg is hard, it might go anyway, and even Sochaux vs Nantes.

but what the hell, I'd give it a try, it might work fine
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:dielaugh: TGV, I predicted these last night via a link assuming they were the first set of the last 32 games. I was thinking...bloody hell..these are all stick on's and couldn't see how anyone would consider the obviously weaker teams in each match, now of course it all makes sense.

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LOL...I expect almost everyone to predict the same for such ties..Doubt which games will disappoint us.

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Do you think we can "create" one or more winners who pick the correct surprise-results and have all 12 games correctly?

Never heard from it, but I think that 4/5 out of 10 participants should have 10 and 1 all 12 correct scores.
I suppose it will be a lot less, so I'm very curious....

How are the statistics in Austria ?

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There goes the 12...

Schalke - Hamburg 0-2
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fvck Schalke 04

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There goes the 12...

Schalke - Hamburg 0-2
I got it right though

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There goes the 12...

Schalke - Hamburg 0-2
Ascoli - Roma 1-1
Sochaux - Nantes 1-2

I'd be surprised to see anyone scoring 12/12

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1 x 10, 17 x 9, 7 x 8, 5 x7, 3 x 6

Better than usual, but as expected even if you try to control it, there are always some surprise-results. On the other hand, I guess it's somewhere between 1 out of 300000 and 1 out of 500000 who gets 12 right, so the scores aren't that bad. (Usually it's a few hundred, sometimes a few thousand who get 10.)

As a result I'll pay more attention to the top-scores in next year's group stage - and if someone should manage to get all right, it'll be an automatic promotion to the knock-out stages.
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As a result I'll pay more attention to the top-scores in next year's group stage - and if someone should manage to get all right, it'll be an automatic promotion to the knock-out stages.
Good idea... *says the current number one placed on the overall XCC 2006/07 PL*
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TGV, I thought you said this round did'nt count towards the overall standings? You said the following:

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P.S.: This round doesnot in any way count for XCC 2006/07, I'm just using the opportunity of a big audience.
So I did'nt pay much attention to the fixtures this week and just put wild guesses down, and completed my predictions in about ten seconds.
However, I now see in fact you have included the scores in the overall standings? :frustrat:
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I got the 10 ...cool
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TGV, I thought you said this round did'nt count towards the overall standings? You said the following:

So I did'nt pay much attention to the fixtures this week and just put wild guesses down, and completed my predictions in about ten seconds.
However, I now see in fact you have included the scores in the overall standings? :frustrat:
ditto...I thought this was entirely off the whole XCC PL...
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ditto...I thought this was entirely off the whole XCC PL...

the league in the XCC is just used to help calculate the results of the individual match ups, the placings are not important (of course if you are near the top then there is also a good chance you are winning the individual matches)
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