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Art in Context : Discussion 4

Greetings from my favourite city! The first blizzard of the year is slowly moving out to the Atlantic. I am sitting by the window, working and gazing at the 15 inches of powdery fresh snow on the sidewalk. One can hear the west wind howling (O Shelley, what did he say about that dear west wind?) It is 17 degrees fahrenheit outside. Spring is in our imagination.

This week, we have three sets of questions for our discussion -

A. On working:

* When do you consider a work of art finished?

B. On abstraction:

* Con's: What irks you so much about abstract art?

* Pro's: What do you love about abstract art?

On portraits:

* Your self-portrait - in text.

* Any artist's portrait(s) you like? Please show image.

Looking forward to your replies

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A. On working:

* When do you consider a work of art finished?

When the desired outcome of the work is accomplished.

B. On abstraction:

* Con's: What irks you so much about abstract art?

When it is abused as something which you can "get away with".

* Pro's: What do you love about abstract art?

The whole experimentation part of it. But many art movements can go under abstract art so im talking about the experimenting and pattern types.

Also, the hidden meanings and images, which challenge us to analyse and interpret it in a way where there is no right or wronge.

On portraits:

* Your self-portrait - in text.

Oil on canvas

* Any artist's portrait(s) you like? Please show image.

Yes but honestly, i forgot who its done by and its name, and im not going to find a substitute.

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For my favourite portrait - from the bad boy of 19th Century Realism, Gustave Courbet's (French, 1819-1877) ARTIST IN HIS STUDIO. 1954-55. Note that the seated man reading a book at right is none other than the great poet Charles Baudelaire.




As to my self portrait in text, this one is a haiku -

* a haiku is a Japanese poem formatted in 17 syllables (usually 5-7-5 or 5-5-7)

I sew what they ripped
Centuries and centuries ago.
Paw prints on fresh snow.


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A. On working:
* When do you consider a work of art finished?
It's never finished but maybe at the point you find it decent enough to show to an audiance

B. On abstraction:
* Con's: What irks you so much about abstract art?
The fact that -certainly in contemporary art- you sometimes have the feeling that you're getting conned. That the artists has something like 'how far can I go before they understand I'm mocking them". But maybe that's also a good thing

* Pro's: What do you love about abstract art?
I prefer abstract art because with "old masters" I sometimehave the feeling I'm not looking at art but at craftmanship :undecide:

On portraits:
* Your self-portrait - in text.
I already used this one in one of your former questions somewhere in the Bookforum, but I still think it's a good one There is a famous Dutch poetry-line by Willem Kloos that goes:

Ik ben een god in het diepst van mijn gedachten

Translated it is something like

I'm a god in the deepest of my thoughts


* Any artist's portrait(s) you like? Please show image.
Francis Bacon has quite some (self-)portrait's


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A.
When I smoke a cigarette. But since I don't smoke since 1995, I would say after the third draft.

B.
Cons:
The creeping sense that a first grader could could do it just as well. A satiric magazine once had an art exibit of little childrens art, pretending it was the work of famous artists, and let the chips fall where they might. The show got great buzzword filled reviews ('post-modern' was used a lot) and then everyone laughed until their little cheeks were puffed out and their faces were bright red. Shooting fish in a barrel but instructive none the less. I beleive the prank was entitled "My Kid Could Do That!"
Pros:
Because quality will out as it does in most everything in life. Something beautiful like Jay DeFeo's "The Rose" is beautiful whether it is representational or not. Plus, when you see a picture of the crucifixion it can only be THE CRUCIFIXION, whilst an abstract work can really be anything you want it to be.

1. Kiss kiss bang bang
2. Gerhard Richter's "Self Portrait Done Three Times"
...I'll bet you all thought I was going to post Jeff Koons' schtuping his wife...

You know the scene it's very hum-drum
And my favorite song's entitled "Boredom"...
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The creeping sense that a first grader could could do it just as well. A satiric magazine once had an art exibit of little childrens art, pretending it was the work of famous artists, and let the chips fall where they might. The show got great buzzword filled reviews ('post-modern' was used a lot) and then everyone laughed until their little cheeks were puffed out and their faces were bright red. Shooting fish in a barrel but instructive none the less. I beleive the prank was entitled "My Kid Could Do That!"



Thats funny, they would have felt like absolute idiots!

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