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I hope this forum will leave its reader one item: that art, unlike science and politics, is NOT linear. Everything crosses over everything else, as long as the human race remains intact.

To initiate our design forum, an image of a joint effort by the artist John Flaxman [a classicist] and another artist, Josiah Wedgwood [who worked with pottery] -



Vase, late 18th century.
Designed by John Flaxman (English, 1755–1826);
Made by Josiah Wedgwood and Sons, Etruria/Staffordshire, England
Jasperware; H. 6 1/2 in. (16.5 cm), Diam. 5 1/8 in. (13 cm)

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I hope this forum will leave its reader one item: that art, unlike science and politics, is NOT linear. Everything crosses over everything else, as long as the human race remains intact.

To commerce our design thread, an image of a joint effort by the artist John Flaxman [a classicist] and another artist, Josiah Wedgwood [who worked with pottery] -



Vase, late 18th century.
Designed by John Flaxman (English, 1755–1826);
Made by Josiah Wedgwood and Sons, Etruria/Staffordshire, England
Jasperware; H. 6 1/2 in. (16.5 cm), Diam. 5 1/8 in. (13 cm)
now im confused.

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now im confused.
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'Cos its a VASE.
You know, I like a well designed product as much as anyone else (can be beautiful and useful), but, to me, so much of modern (and I mean MODERN--all caps) design is a species of yuppie pornographic kitch which gets a certain type of middlebrow aesthete all hot under the collar. To wit:
the Alessi Teakettle-


People used to have this monstrosity on their stove, near the un-sit-able-on Memphis Chair while drinking Absolut Vodka. Why? Because some pajandrum said they were paragons of modern design, that's why. Nevermind that the whistle on the tea kettle never worked--"don't put it on the fire, its not that type of tea kettle."--nobody over 75 pounds could sit on the Memphis Chair or the vodka is totally unpalatable, everyone had to have them. Never has the concept of consumterror been so well illustrated to me.

Gee, why am I being such a curmudgeon about this? Is my hatred of the ****ing fILOFAX and all it stands for so strong that it threatens my sanity? Ooh, don't get me strted on the IPOD. Was I ill treated by an industrial design major in the late 80s? Yeah, that's probably it.

You know the scene it's very hum-drum
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Personally i like Alessi's stuff, i think its great. Talked about all over the world. One thing i can agree with you is Memphis. I dont like that style either, but dont forget it was like a revolution against design at the time, which paved the way for other things. But as for Alessi, i think he has good designs.



1983 project by Alessandro Mendini in collaboration with Alessi...

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Thank heavens for the Alessi line, Michael Graves is countin' da money.

Coffee while we try to get Heather started on the iPOD?


Michael Graves (architect and designer), Alessi Coffee Maker

But I'd like to step back a tad, to the 1970's ...

... when the SEX shop opened in London and Vivienne Westwood was a single mum ...


Johnny Rotten in God Save the Queen Jacket, designed by Vivienne Westwood, London, 1976; photo by (c) Bob Gruen

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But I'd like to step back a tad, to the 1970's ...
We could go even further back to the 60's, which is the most exiting period of design and look at sub/counter cultures and how they used design. Also how boutiques originated and basically everything to do with london, even the beatles with sgt. peppers.

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When we talk about design nowadays images of shiny cars and dysfunctional teapots come to mind. But it doesn't have to be like this. Artists and designers have often worked hand in hand. Look at the 1917 production of "Parade," Jean Cocteau wrote it, Erik Satie scroed it, Picasso and friends made the set and the ballet Ruses danced on it.



Picasso was fascinated by puppetry and linked to this were his pantomime horse studies created for Jean Cocteau's ballet, "Parade," in 1917.

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