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all things BAROQUE

Definition: The Baroque period, an era in the history of the Western arts roughly coinciding with the 17th century. Its earliest manifestations, which occurred in Italy, date from the latter decades of the 16th century, while in some regions, notably Germany and colonial South America, certain of its culminating achievements did not occur until the 18th century. The work that distinguishes the Baroque period is stylistically complex, even contradictory. In general, however, the desire to evoke emotional states by appealing to the senses, often in dramatic ways, underlies its manifestations. Some of the qualities most frequently associated with the Baroque are grandeur, sensuous richness, drama, vitality, movement, tension, emotional exuberance, and a tendency to blur distinctions between the various arts.

As requested by RIO, here's the thread in which to post images, comments and questions on baroque art, music, architecture ... Enjoy

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I will wait for RIO and fellow Baroque fans to introduce the work of the great Caravaggio. In the interim, here are two rare gems from this period, done by an equally rare individual, a woman!

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Corisca and the Satyr, 1630–35; Oil on canvas; 61 x 82 5/8 in. (155 x 210 cm); Signed (on a tree at right): ARTIMISIA / GENTILES / CHI. Private collection



Judith and Her Maidservant with the Head of Holofernes ca. 1625; Oil on canvas; 1.8 x 1.4 m (72 1/2 x 55 3/4 in.); Collection:etroit Institute of Arts.

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Somebody explain how to post a picture within a thread (since we can do it now), and I shall. Plus, I can probably be convinced to give my theory of Baroque architecture.

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Heather I hope this will do -

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Good luck and bring me Anthony Van Dyck !!

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I am not a fan of Van Dyke, although I did nearly trip over the base of his statue when liquored up a while ago.
Lets talk about better things, like Caravaggio. I don't think I am saying anything controversial when I state that Michelangelo Merisi de Caravaggio is Baroque's supreme artist. But if anyone wants to argue, I'm ready to fight.
Born in the town of Caravaggio (East of Milan) in 1571, the artist apprenticed to local painter Simone Peterzano. By his 22nd birthday, he was living and working in Rome. Patronized by powerful Cardinals Scipione Borghese and Mafeo Barberini, Caravaggio painted the majority of his most famous pictures in the Eternal City, and as a result you can today see the majority of them in a couple of days should you ever travel there. Using models from the street life of the big city in religious art was not unprecedented at that time (you can see a little bit of it in Titian, whom I would say was a possible influence), but no-one before or since has so reveled in the details of real people masquerading as biblical figures. The palpable sadness of the Virgin Mother seen in the Deposition from the Cross (in the Vatican Museum), the streetwise punkishness of the gamblers in Il Bari (which is in Houston, TX ), the suprise on the face of Saint Matthew in the Calling Of St. Matthew (in St. Luigi Francesci, In Rome), the business-like visage of Judith in Judith Beheading Holerfenes (at the Barberini in Rome), never have such real emotions seemed to exist in the lives of real people in archetypical settings. I will attach some pictures (hopefully) so you can see what I mean. Caravaggio was also something of a punk troublemaker, always in debt and in trouble with someone, and was involved in a street brawl where someone got stabbed and was exiled to Malta, where he was briefly in the Knights of Malta before getting kicked out and tossed into a prison. He escaped and fled to Sicily and then to Naples, but after while travelling to Rome to recieve a Papal pardon he died of a fever in 1610.
I Bari (The Cardsharks):

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A little small but there at least.
This might be too big.
The Calling of St. Matthew

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I am not a fan of Van Dyke, although I did nearly trip over the base of his statue when liquored up a while ago.
Lets talk about better things, like Caravaggio. I don't think I am saying anything controversial when I state that Michelangelo Merisi de Caravaggio is Baroque's supreme artist. But if anyone wants to argue, I'm ready to fight.
Born in the town of Caravaggio (East of Milan) in 1571, the artist apprenticed to local painter Simone Peterzano. By his 22nd birthday, he was living and working in Rome. Patronized by powerful Cardinals Scipione Borghese and Mafeo Barberini, Caravaggio painted the majority of his most famous pictures in the Eternal City, and as a result you can today see the majority of them in a couple of days should you ever travel there. Using models from the street life of the big city in religious art was not unprecedented at that time (you can see a little bit of it in Titian, whom I would say was a possible influence), but no-one before or since has so reveled in the details of real people masquerading as biblical figures. The palpable sadness of the Virgin Mother seen in the Deposition from the Cross (in the Vatican Museum), the streetwise punkishness of the gamblers in Il Bari (which is in Houston, TX ), the suprise on the face of Saint Matthew in the Calling Of St. Matthew (in St. Luigi Francesci, In Rome), the business-like visage of Judith in Judith Beheading Holerfenes (at the Barberini in Rome), never have such real emotions seemed to exist in the lives of real people in archetypical settings. I will attach some pictures (hopefully) so you can see what I mean. Caravaggio was also something of a punk troublemaker, always in debt and in trouble with someone, and was involved in a street brawl where someone got stabbed and was exiled to Malta, where he was briefly in the Knights of Malta before getting kicked out and tossed into a prison. He escaped and fled to Sicily and then to Naples, but after while travelling to Rome to recieve a Papal pardon he died of a fever in 1610.
I Bari (The Cardsharks):




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Judith Beheads Holerfenes

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Deposition from the Cross

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Some minor Baroque artists (If you are ever in Rome, go to the Vatican Museum's Pinocoteca and look in room XII. It has most of those I'll show, plus Caravaggio's Deposition and many more. You'll also have the room to yourself, since everyone else will be in the Sistine Chapel.):

Guido Reni. A Bolognese who ran hot and cold. When he's good he's good and when he's not...he can be reminiscent of Fragonard or junk like that.
Good Guido:
David With The Head of Goliath (this from the Louvre, but the Ufizzi in Florence has a copy)


Valentin de Bologne. A Frenchman who worked in Bologna and Rome. I'm no expert on martyrdoms, but this is a good one.
The Martyrdoms of Sts. Processio and Martinius

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Nicolas Poussin. I saw this painting when I was 12 and never ever forgot it.
The Martyrdom of St. Erasmus

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And finally, Giovani Francesco Barbieri, il Guercino. Guercio means "crosseyed", so we can assume he was goofy looking. Another Bolognese, and one I am sorry to say I was never very familliar with. I knew the name--from my grandmother telling me to not sit so close to the TV or I'd go all 'tutti guercio'--but not the work. Then I went to the Capitoline Museum's Pinocoteca in search of Caravaggios and stumbled onto Guercino's Santa Petronilla (brought to you by Pirelli!). The reproduction doesn't really do it justice, since the painting itself is huge--maybe 20 feet high.
Santa Petronilla



If I feel better, on Monday, I might do Dutch/Flemish painters, but now to bed.

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One of the most famous paintings of all time

The Creation of Adam, from Michelangelo, ofcourse.


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Leonardo's "The last supper" masterpiece


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As Artemisia would have said, those are my grandpapa's art!



Artemisia Gentileschi (1593 - 1652/1653), Female Martyr, c. 1615;
Oil on panel; 0.32m by 0.245m

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That's twice now I've come across this thread and thought the title was "all things BARBEQUE"

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You must come to Brazil to see what is a real good BBQ...

Now, Brazilian Barroque...The Altar is from a Church here. The Gold Rush left many people rich and the best way to not let it go overseas was using them in the churches.
The figure is from Genius Aleijadinho (his nickname because he had a serious illness and ended with severe handicap), his most famous works are the 12 prophets Images in the city of Congonhas. He is also the archytete of the church in the pic.
The painting is from Master Ataíde for a church in Ouro Preto. Both of them are from the XVII-XVIII century.

Cities like Ouro Preto and Congonhas are full of colonial buildings with this style. In some sense the gold rush in Ouro Preto produced the first momment that we brazilians identify as Brazil (Today we do it, they did not) with the political Movemmet named "Incofidencia Mineira" that was and enlightment movemment, so many poets in the group like Claudio Manoel da Costa. A great epic-poem named "O Romanceiro da Inconfidęncia" from Cecilia Meirelles is must have for Brazilian poetry, made by a great woman in the XX century....
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Short of becoming a Brasie -- I can't, I promised German Lux
-- I may save up money for a South American journey ...
in the forthcoming years

In the interim, you must show us more images, J.
Many thanks.

For Boyo, Phoenix and all hungry eyes, here are --

More Food Baroque


Annibale Carracci (1560-1609) The Beaneater


another Carracci, The Butcher Shop


The Cook

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