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post #1 of 123 (permalink) Old October 13th, 2008, 12:04 Thread Starter
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Albanias worst trainer in history, Arie Haan?

Where are all the talents? Why including a player that hasn't played football for 4 weeks? Where is Bylykbashi? Why Agolli over Hyka or Vangjeli? Why 4-5-1 against Liechtenstein, Malta and Hungary? Why Bulku so late when we need to move forward and not defend? Why not change Cana when he made 80% passes wrong, didn't know if he was on the football field or athletics (I love Cana aswell, but critics should be taken as critics)

Why so quiet when we loose and no analyzation? Why so optimistic for a good result against Hungary when we only won with luck against Malta? Why no training 2 mornings in the row when it was scheduled? Why legalize drinking for players? Why do you leave before the 2:nd half starts watching Albanian Superliga? Why haven't you still learned a word in Albanian? Why don't you have internal talk with the players?

Where is the future? Where are our new players?
How can you publicacly say that you don't like Berishas play? How can you still se positive elements? when we haven't played this bad even against Romania in the 1-6 loss or Belarus 2-4.
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post #2 of 123 (permalink) Old October 13th, 2008, 13:28
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What shocked me is not replacing Duro. He was beyond pathetic and it's someone who just came out of a serious injury and hasn't played for his club in like 3-4 weeks.

Bogdani as well.. you see he doesn't play for his club, cant even trap the ball anymore, replace him. :thmbdown:
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post #3 of 123 (permalink) Old October 13th, 2008, 13:33
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Is he seriously that bad?
I'm not surprised though.

He seemed pretty upbeat though and cheerful on Dutch TV btw when they had a report on him meeting Erwin Koeman's Hungary.


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well, when we lost against Malta 2 years ago, the coach got sacked right away. I guess Arie Haan is in a similar position now, losing against Hungary...
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well, when we lost against Malta 2 years ago, the coach got sacked right away. I guess Arie Haan is in a similar position now, losing against Hungary...
It wasn't that we lost to Hungary, probably we would have lost anyway, It just was the way the players performed together with the manager making some of the most pathetic decisions. Drenica summed it up pretty well.
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Is he seriously that bad?
I'm not surprised though.

He seemed pretty upbeat though and cheerful on Dutch TV btw when they had a report on him meeting Erwin Koeman's Hungary.
you called it though Wally yous said he wasn't that great in the GRoup1 Thread.......he hasn't managed a good team since Stuttgart i believe is what you said

Haans tactics were just complete garbage for this game
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He has a plan for Portugal...
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6-3-1??

--------------Beqaj------------
-Beqiri-Cana-Teli-Curri-Agolli-Lila
---------------Lala-------------
--------Hyka---------Duro------
-------------Bogdani-----------

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post #9 of 123 (permalink) Old October 13th, 2008, 17:53
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^^ thats 12 players

we almost got Haan instead of Koeman !!!

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Tehetségben nincs hiány, hiszem hogy jó lesz még a magyar foci!

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We need 12 players, actually we need more than that against portugal

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^^ thats 12 players

we almost got Haan instead of Koeman !!!
thank you......i just woke up


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well then in that case why not have 2 goalies ?

Well, we were still in speaking terms with Haan, while you guys came up with an offer and "stole him" from us

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well then in that case why not have 2 goalies ?

Well, we were still in speaking terms with Haan, while you guys came up with an offer and "stole him" from us
We don't need two goalies. We got Super Beqaj who will do miracles against Inter next Wednesday, but suck this Wednesday like he did with Hungary.

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Where are all the talents? Why including a player that hasn't played football for 4 weeks? Where is Bylykbashi? Why Agolli over Hyka or Vangjeli? Why 4-5-1 against Liechtenstein, Malta and Hungary? Why Bulku so late when we need to move forward and not defend? Why not change Cana when he made 80% passes wrong, didn't know if he was on the football field or athletics (I love Cana aswell, but critics should be taken as critics)

Why so quiet when we loose and no analyzation? Why so optimistic for a good result against Hungary when we only won with luck against Malta? Why no training 2 mornings in the row when it was scheduled? Why legalize drinking for players? Why do you leave before the 2:nd half starts watching Albanian Superliga? Why haven't you still learned a word in Albanian? Why don't you have internal talk with the players?

Where is the future? Where are our new players?
How can you publicacly say that you don't like Berishas play? How can you still se positive elements? when we haven't played this bad even against Romania in the 1-6 loss or Belarus 2-4.
Too many questions that i dont think even Haan nows the answers to. This was the worst game i have ever seen, went into the bar and was sickend to my stomach when i seen that line up. You start an Agolli who has never played in that position with the NT as if this is a friendly, to test players at various positions. You take Vangjeli out who I thought played very stable and switch him with Hyka and move the disaster waiting to happen Agolli back who oter than hitting the post was inexistent on the field messing up fast break plays by his horrible passing. (Now i see why Baric never called him up) You had every ball lobbed up for a stumbling Duro who never passed his guy and always passed back because at most times there was nothing there. Im sure Hungary studied the film and seen how they were isolating Hyka. You had Cana trying to make plays while Skela was god knows where. Our midfield was not seen or was even active in this game. You try to throw a ball to Bogdani who is covered by 4 defenders and expect him to do something, not to mention he was out of breath. If we are going to play with a lone striker we need to play with Salihi and or Berisha up front while the midfield needs cahnge starting from Skela who has overstayed his place for a while now. Gilam Lika needs to take his spot while Sukaj and Bylykbashi need to be called up.

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Wow this is deja vu, we were all saying the same things last year after the losses to Belarus and Romania. My question is why were we all dumb enough to believe that things will change when the same players were called up?
And Haan is an absolute joke he doesn't even look like he cares. He criticized Berisha for being selfish but then he starts two of the most selfish players in the world in Skela and Duro, every time Skela was in the box in the Hungary match he took a shot. They played like 11 players who just met each other before the match started, and that is the manager's fault just as much as it is the players' fault. We need a manager who actually cares and someone who doesn't just call up the same players that have been called up for the last 10 years. We should try an Albanian manager.
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otto baric was great, it just sucks the players conspired against him the last 2 games....he instilled discipline and brought new talents and lineups...oh well. I wish we hired Roberto Baggio instead. call me silly but he speaks Italian obviously. I am sure some of the players speak Italian. He is brand new to Albanian football yet is from Italy which is close to Albania obviously and Albanians like Italian teams/NT etc. He was eager to learn and wanted the job. Remember he went to Duka and asked for the job. He made the first move. He wanted it bad. I feel he would've been the bridge for Albanian players in Italy. He could have helped us out alot. We have no talent in Netherlands nor do we have prospects at all. Italy is perfect. I think we would have been in a better position

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Maybe is time for an Albanian Manager. But it should be someone who knows how to manage the players. But frankly no Albanian Manager can manage the egos of this NT.

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Maybe is time for an Albanian Manager. But it should be someone who knows how to manage the players. But frankly no Albanian Manager can manage the egos of this NT.
The Albanian players can't be controlled by Dutch, Croat, German....if they had an Albanian in this time. That coach would get stepped all over on and would get no respect....sucks.

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Albert Bunjaku and Edmond Lutaj are two coaches that would be perfect for the NT. Both of them have lots of experience here in Sweden, are intelligent, quite young, disciplined and with lots of motivation for success. Needless to mention they're also huge patriots!

They work very strictly and know how to deal with these players, i'm sure.
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Arie Haan does not give 5 cents for Albania. That is for sure!
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