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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old June 8th, 2007, 16:36 Thread Starter
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Albanian league problems

Another season is over, and there is a growing problem in Albanian football which probably you have noticed… empty stadiums!
Every season teams invest a lot, infrastructure is better, the competition is big, and I have to say maybe we never had a better football than present one, unfortunately the interest for football is going in opposite direction.

I know first to blame is FSHF, they have done nothing to stop match fixing scandals, besides that they did show signs of weakness and corruption with some punishments that later decreased to a low level making them look ridiculous.

I remember in 1999 when I traveled with Vllaznia fans to Tirana, we were around 4000 only from Shkodra, you couldn’t see empty seats in Qemal Stafa, it was such a big rivalry, unfortunately since than every season the interest has only decreased…

Besides all the mess which is an outcome of FSHS continuous failures, I would mention also something else which might not sound reasonable to most of you but I consider it a big factor for this empty stadiums issue… lack of rivalry between the fans ! Yes. Somehow in recent years we have made so much connections between the cities, created friendships (which is good of course) but yet I say this is a cause that led to disappearance of rivalry in stadiums. The derby Vllaznia – Tirana isn’t the same anymore, not to even mention Vllaznia vs Flamurtari/Partizani/Dinamo etc, actually there isn’t any derby that could possibly be compared to those of past years.
And as things stands this will only get worse, no matter how much our teams are improving.
Even the political rivalry isn’t existing anymore. We know that western Albania are supporters of Partia Demokratike, while south are almost all Partia Socialiste, at least I would expect a match between Vllaznia and Flamurtari to attract large number of fans because of different political views, but that isn’t happening neither, localism is disappearing together with football popularity in Albania. We cannot attract fans by quality as we will never be able to compare our league with western ones, so how do we get so see any light in this tunel ?
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old June 9th, 2007, 05:22
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It did pick up a lil or what not with Elbasan and Tirana in the last few years. FSHF needs to promote the game in Albania just like the NBA NFL etc. promote their leagues and their best stars in commercials sports drinks etc. Reasonable ticket prices and the clubs themselves need to make sure that its fans are the priority and make sure that the event taking places is the best ticket in town. Not some movie or a go cart track.

No matter how you try ALBANIANS never die
We just retaliate with hate then we multiply.
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Yes Elbasani and Tirana had some rivalry lately, mostly because both clubs were even in terms of quality and were aiming the title, but im worried for cities like Vlora, Shkodra, and clubs as Partizani, Dinamo...

Pajtona me ty per reklamacion, Korcar.

Ku mbeten tjert, nuk po pergjigjeni ?
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Yes Elbasani and Tirana had some rivalry lately, mostly because both clubs were even in terms of quality and were aiming the title, but im worried for cities like Vlora, Shkodra, and clubs as Partizani, Dinamo...

Pajtona me ty per reklamacion, Korcar.

Ku mbeten tjert, nuk po pergjigjeni ?

Well Flamurtari has always had a rivalry with Skenderbeu and i see it as probably the biggest rivalry in the south in the superleague this year. One other problem is in the big 3 in the capital there is always something to do and the lack of promotion to the game and the biggest factor that haunts the game in Albania (match fixing) people would most likely go to the club during mid day than the stadium. The smaller cities have always had many fans in the stadiums ex are Peqin, Vlore, Elbasan, Korce (stadim was full in many games as they climb back to the superleague this year). One more thing Id add is infrastructure and professionalizm on each club. They cant sign a player for 3 years and the player leaves to another club within 6 months.

No matter how you try ALBANIANS never die
We just retaliate with hate then we multiply.

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Pse tjert nuk u kyqen ne ket teme, bash qe menova ka me pas interesim :rollani:
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Another problem in our league is that the clubs are not privatized meaning the sponsors dont know for sure if they are going to be in with the club the following year or not causing them to spend far less money on a club. It looks like KF Tirana is moving towards becoming the first Privatized Albanian club.


Muca: Ja se si privatizohet Tirana
20 Qershor Shefi i klubit Tirana, Shkelqim Muca, eshte I bindur qe maji I vitit 2008 do ta gjeje klubin bardheblu te privatizuar 100%. Kjo me shume se sa nje deshire, apo nevoje, eshte nje urdher nga politikat dhe instancat e larta te UEFA?s.

? Ne cfare pike eshte procesi i privatizimit te klubit te futbollit Tirana?

? Privatizimi i klubit eshte nje proces I imponuar nga ligjet e fundit te UEFA?s. Madje, ne Shqiperi ne jemi me vonese, sepse ky proces tanim` duhet te kishte perfunduar. Ne majin e sezonit te ardhshem, klubi Tirana, duhet te privatizohet 100%. Ligji i Sporteve i miratuar ne vitin 2005 I ka te qarta procedurat teknike dhe juridike te ketij procesi.

? Cfare po behet realisht?

? Klubi I futbollit Tirana eshte ne pronesi njeqind perqind te Bashkise se Tiranes. Ne kete bashkesi perfshihet klubi (stema dhe gjithe aksesoret e tjere), stadiumi “Selman Stermasi” dhe fusha sportive “Skender Halili”. Keto dy objekte kane kaluar me vendim te Keshillit te Ministrave ne 2005?en, ne pronesi te Bashkise, dhe me pas ne perdorim te Sport Klub Tiranes. Ne kete moment qe po flasim, nje ekspert kontabel eshte duke studiuar dhe duke percaktuar asetet e klubit Tirana, dhe shume shpejt do te jete edhe vleresimi total dhe perfundimtar. Standaret e kesaj ekspertize jane te miratuara nga Agjensia e Privatizimit, qe varet direkt nga Ministria e Ekonomise. Ne thelb, flitet per nje privatizim te nje ndermarrje shteterore, dhe funksionon njesoj si gjitha simotrat e saj, qe ndoshta nuk kane karakter sportiv.

? A eshte e gatshme Bashkia te privatizoje klubin Tirana?

? Une mendoj, se Bashkia eshte e interesuar teknikisht te mos hape pengesa per nje proces te tille. E para, deri tani, Bashkia eshte ndjere dhe e ka perjetuar veten si pronare te klubit, madje duke investuar. Mos pretendoni se pushtetet vendore ne Shqiperi do te investojne miliona euro. Une di te them, qe Bashkia e Tiranes ka investuar 300 milione leke per 8 mije metra katrore fushe ne qendren stervitore “Refik Halili” ne kete moment qe po flasim. Nuk eshte pak.

? Perfundon ekspertiza dhe del vlera e klubit Tirana. Agjensia e Privatizimit do te beje tender me pas?

? Po ne logjike administrative keshtu funksionon. Do te behet nje tender. Por duhet te kemi kujdes ne kete pike. Une shpresoj, qe normat e vleresimit te aseteve te jene me specifike se ketu behet fjale per sport. Cfare do te thote kjo? Nuk mund te llogarisesh me nje vlere te njejte per meter katror nje stadium ne pronesi te nje klubi me nje fushe apo uzine, sepse stadiumi do te jete aset i klubit dhe ai qe do ta privatizoje nuk do te kete mundesi t’i nderroje destinacionin ? te themi, bie fjala qe do te beje pallate. Megjithate, kjo eshte nje histori e komplikuar qe ka te beje me shume me politikat shteterore, qe mund te jene ose jo favorizuese.

? Ne tender mund te marre pjese kushdo qe permbush kriteret e duhura?

? Une besoj se po.

? Kjo mos do te thote qe donatoret aktuale, te cilet kane sponsorizuar shifra te frikshme ne keto dy vite, mund te dalin “off?side” nga ndonje trete qe hyn piekrisht ne momentin e tenderit?

? Une jam i bindur qe donatoret aktuale kane perparesi ligjore dhe juridike per te qene ata aksioneret me te medhenj edhe ne te ardhmen kur klubi te shnderrohet ne i privatizuar”.

? Supozojme qe kalohen te gjitha hallkat dhe klubi privatizohet. Ne kete moment kemi te bejme me nje biznes. Si do te vilen te ardhurat?

? Deri tani donatoret kane funksionuar vetem ne formen e sponsorit, qe do te thote, se gjithcka qe e kane paguar e kane bere jo me nje logjike ekonomike per ta kthyer mbrapsht. Bordi drejtues KF Tirana do te hartoje planet e biznesit dhe strategjite per te nxjerre fitim dhe per te amortizuar sa me shpejt investimin fillestar. Do te filloje mbi te gjitha nga stadiumi. Do te rindertohet stadiumi “Selman Stermasi”, sepse ne kete ambjent do te jete burimi kryesor i te ardhurave, si per biletat e shitura ashtu edhe shyfrtezimi i ambjenteve rreth e rrotull, garazheve, restoranteve, lokaleve e tj.

? Ndalojme pak ketu. Nese dikush tjeter, pervec donatoreve, deshiron te behet aksioner ne ndertimin e stadiumit a ka mundesi? Xhani ka shfaqur deshiren?

? Degjo, klubi Tirana do te privatozhet 100% dhe si rrjedhoje te gjitha asetet do te privatizohen nga aksioneret. Pra, edhe stadiumi do te jete prone e ketyre donatoreve. Nese dikush nga donatoret do te shese me pas aksionet te nje i trete, kete mund ta beje ne baze te stausit qe do te kete ndertuar vete bordi aksioner. Pra, ne momentin e privatizimit, ai qe eshte aksioner i klubit, mund te behet edhe i stadiumit. Sepse ndryshe, eshte e pamudnur teknikisht.

? Por a ka mundesi te vilen te tjera te ardhrua pervec stadiumit?

? Po. Une besoj se me pas duhet te funksionoje me se miri edhe departamenti i marketingut. Forma te njohura ne te gjithe Boten.

? Ka pasur nje diskutim te gjere edhe per te drejten TV. Mendoni se klubet shqiptare e shesin per nje shume qesharake?

? E para, kemi dashur te evitojme shitjen e se drejtes TV ne nje kanal televiziv qe eshte pa pagese, sepse keshtu numri i shikuesve do te bjere ne menyre te ndjeshme, por nga TV me pagese ne kemi pasur vetem nje oferte dhe jemi te deytruar ta shesim me oferten e pare. Kur nuk ka konkurrence

? Mendoni se sistemi i kontratave disa vjecare te futbollisteve do te jete pjese e privatizimit te klubit?

? Sigurisht, qe ne momentin qe klubi do te jete i privatizuar gjerat do te ndryshojne me kontratat e lojtareve. Deri ne kete moment kemi te bejme vetem me sponsore, keshtu qe edhe ne si klub nuk kemi asnje garanci qe keta sponsore (pavaresisht se flitet per njerez shume serizoe ne kete moment) do te jene apo jo sezonin e ardhshem.

No matter how you try ALBANIANS never die
We just retaliate with hate then we multiply.
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