Originally Posted by Lite®nit
I agree, but lying should not be part of the process. Of course any country with problems will phone the US first, as depending who they support wins the war. But a line should be drawn between helping and using lies to take advantae.
there is no democracy if the head of your government lies for support (thats what dictators do), before the war here nobody that was for the war ever thought for a minute that all the reports were lies. Politicians do not go to war, so it would be nice if they at least respected those who go with the truth.
This will get worse once the energy problems intensify, we will face though times ahead in 15/20 years. Instead of fighting a war people should use the money to find ways around diesel, creating so much chaos for something that will end soon is not worth it. US will have problems in 3 countries: Iraq, Nigeria and Venezuela.
If things heat more in Nigeria US will have to do something, I expect bad things from Venezuela and US cannot use power against Chaves.
In this case I don't think their were lies about the war. They're was a clear rush to go to war in Iraq but i don't think the administration flat out lied about the WMD argument. I believe the Germans, French and every major intelligence agency had info that Iraq had WMD's. I just think it was more a case of bad intelligence and we've had numerous cases about that. CIA has goofed numerous times.
And truthfully who exactly didn't think Iraq had any bio, chemical and nuclear weapons. I never heard one person say flat-out that Iraq never had any weapons pre-2003.
With regards about the 9/11 Iraq link Cheney was really the one pushing that and a lying argument could be made their.
And Lit I think the high oil prices is the best thing to happen in this country. American business works great when we're behind. We have a good track record catching up. Everyones fed up with the oil but nobody ever cared enough when it was cheap now with the skyrocketing prices i think we'll finally get started. Your starting to see some progress.
Although we might have some real oil wars with the countries you mentioned and may I add a possible oil race with the Chinese. Maybe the US will be like Mad Max 2 (Road Warrior). Maybe I'll be fighting funky neo-punks in the future with bows and arrows for oil.
But i think American business has finally concentrated its efforts towards new fuel sources. On a similar note every time a watch a news program on TV or listen to talk radio everyone is talking about how Brazil is energy independent with the flex cars and ethanol. Alot of people have been asking the question why is Brazil energy independent yet we're addicted in essence? I think a ground swell of public demand is pushing for new energy.