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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old April 26th, 2006, 13:59 Thread Starter
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First some information, probably a lot of you know who he was and what he did, and of course why he became so "famous", however maybe you read something you didn't know or would like to discuss and share your opinion about it, with us all.

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NOSTRADAMUS

Nostradamus was a French physician. He was born in 1503 in Saint-Rémy de Provence, France. He died in 1566 in Salon-de-Provence, France. He was a catholic. His parents and grandparents were Jewish from origin, but had themselves baptized catholic.

The word Prophecies is a name for a series of more than 940 predictions which are written as quatrains, four-line verses. The Prophecies are published in parts. The publishing of the first four chapters went together with a letter from Nostradamus to Cesar, his oldest son. The publishing of the last three chapters went together with a letter from Nostradamus to Henry II, king of France.

In the Prophecies, wars are predicted, political quarrels and various kinds of disasters such as floods, famine and epidemics. The language of the Prophecies is most of the time unclear and Nostradamus gives only a couple of times a hint to a fulfilment date.

The investigation on which Nostradamus, astrology and the Bible is based, showed by means of the quatrains and the letters to Cesar and Henry II, that Nostradamus had the strong conviction that God gave to him the gift of prophecy. During 29 years, from October 16, 1524 to October 11, 1553, he got "imaginations" (visions). These "imaginations" contained hints to wars, disasters and the like. After each "imagination", he calculated a horoscope in order to determine where and when would occur what he "saw". After the birth of Cesar, his eldest son, he elaborated his notes in the form of quatrains, four-line verses. A couple of times he also applied biblical verses. He published the quatrains in parts in the period 1555-1558.

According to Nostradamus, the events which he predicts in the Prophecies, will take place in the whole of Europe, Africa and a part of Asia. The investigation on which Nostradamus, astrology and the Bible is based, showed that his predictions refer to West-, Central- and Southeast-Europe, Asia Minor and the countries around the Mediterranean Sea. He did not predict events for North-, Central- and South America, Africa, East-Europe, Asia or Australia.
Nostradamus wrote to his son Cesar that the Prophecies cover a time span from March 1, 1555, to 3797. The investigation on which Nostradamus, astrology and the Bible is based, showed that the beginning date indeed is March 1, 1555. The closing date is November 9, 3797.

From 1550, Nostradamus became increasingly famous by his almanacs and books about health and beauty. When Henry II, the French king, died in July 1559, Nostradamus suddenly became famous because rumours spread that he predicted this in one of his Prophecies.
The reputation of the Prophecies up till today is caused by the controversy they always evoke. Despite the vague contents, people think that some of his predictions really became fulfilled. Next, it is fascinating that they cover such a long time span and it is a challenge to find out how Nostradamus conceived them.

large number of investigators will answer this question with "yes". However, a comparison between their comments shows in many cases that they differ from each other regarding the interpretation of the quatrains. In only a minor number of cases, they have a uniform opinion about the nature and the date of the event that Nostradamus would have meant.
The investigation on which Nostradamus, astrology and the Bible is based, shows that the astrological foundation of the Prophecies is obsolete, so they simply cannot be fulfilled. Also other arguments of Nostradamus regarding the fundaments of his predictions, are insufficient. A number of predictions, from which in the investigation the moment of expiration was established, turned out not to be fulfilled at all.

Of course there is a lot more information about Nostradamus and mainly the Prophecies, but my intention isn't to inform about it, i rather would like to hear your opinions. Do you think it is all true, possible and should we believe anything he wrote?

I didn't post everthing, any other information like the forty quatrains etc. can be found on the same site i copied the text above from.

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It's a load of vague stuff that people can read anything into that they want. That's why his 'predictions' seem to come true.

I predict that the world cup will be won by the team of passion, from the country where football is an important part of life, and that represents their nation in true spirit.

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I predict that the world cup will be won by the team of passion, from the country where football is an important part of life, and that represents their nation in true spirit.

Yay! Croatia is going to win

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I dont know about this guy and his"predictions".

We could do this and become famous in a couple of hundred of years. Lets start the XT almanac, to be kept as a reference for the doc and marty mcfly. Hey they gonna need it!

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the man who used it was Biff Tanen, the stepfather of Marty.


Anyway, thanks for your opinion on the topic.

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The descriptions are very vague, and since they were written a long time ago, there is a large probability of several of them "fitting" to real events (I saw this proven in a paper once, forgot the link though). So, as time goes on, it's more and more likely that you can find some event that "fits" one of Nostradamus' loose "predictions". This is of course is just coincidence, and you'll find most quatrains don't make a lot of sense unless you really try to stretch their meaning.
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The descriptions are very vague, and since they were written a long time ago, there is a large probability of several of them "fitting" to real events (I saw this proven in a paper once, forgot the link though). So, as time goes on, it's more and more likely that you can find some event that "fits" one of Nostradamus' loose "predictions". This is of course is just coincidence, and you'll find most quatrains don't make a lot of sense unless you really try to stretch their meaning.
Exactly my thoughts. Plus, the future simply cannot be reliably predicted.

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In other words, it's horsesh!t.


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the man who used it was Biff Tanen, the stepfather of Marty.


Anyway, thanks for your opinion on the topic.
See thats why Marty and the Doc need it though, to keep it away from Biff. If Biff got his hands on our alamanac, WHOWEE there would be a hell of a Back to the future 4

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I read that Nostradamus foretold the publication of the Da Vinci Code...is that true?

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I read that Nostradamus foretold the publication of the Da Vinci Code...is that true?
If you want it to be....

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that's story of interpretation, you can interprete all you want.

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The closing date is November 9, 3797

the guy still has got time...

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The closing date is November 9, 3797

the guy still has got time...
So what does that mean, closing date?

Thats when he predicts the world ends?

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thats when his "predictions" end.

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I predict that the world cup will be won by the team of passion, from the country where football is an important part of life, and that represents their nation in true spirit.
Wow. So even if USA wins, you'll still be right since 'football' could mean American football (i.e. NFL, etc). You're good.

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u people must be kiddin

I dunno if he was a prophet but i'm tellin u people at least one thing that i know of he was very very specific

He predicted 9/11 very very precisely

This is a poor attempt at capturing what he said someone more knowledgable should take up the task

"In the ninth month of the new millenium two giants will fall in the New City of York and fire will spread to every part of the world"

Something like that it was

very very specific

I aint saying he's a prophet u know

I'm just saying what the Marvingian-Frenchman would say

Ok...He had some skeelz

that one prophecy is quite specific

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