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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old January 23rd, 2006, 22:20 Thread Starter
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There was a series on the History Channel last week about the Presidents. While it was extremely superficial, the episode about Woodrow Wilson told about him having a stroke while trying to get the Leage of Nations passed by the US Congress. The US did not join the League of Nations, possibly because Wilson was too sick to push hard for it.

My question is, if the U.S. had joined the League of Nations, would it really have made any difference in stopping World War II from happening?

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It doesn't really matter whether they had joined or not, but how active they would have been in it. The US is a member of the UN now, draw the parallels yourself.
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I don't see any parallels really. the US was not a big military power in the 1920's-30's.

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My question is, if the U.S. had joined the League of Nations, would it really have made any difference in stopping World War II from happening?
Unlikely. The league of nations, like the UN today, believed in solving things through talks. It had previously been a good approach, but when faced with an adversary such as Hitler, talks didn't suffice. Just look at what happened to the deal that Chamberlain thought to have made. Also, Germany stepped out of the league of nations, so that road had pretty much come to an end. If anything would have prevented WWII, it would have been a preemptive strike against Germany in '33.

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Forget the League of Nations, the US should focus all their efforts into joining the much cooler Justice League.

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Should this be in History or here?

Anyways, I doubt the US joining the League of Nations would have helped much. There were plenty of other flaws with it besides the fact that the United States wasn't in it. Also, popular opinion in the United States was generally in favor of isolationism during the existence of the League of Nations (except for perhaps the very end), and any significant US action in League of Nations would have caused plenty of trouble back home. So no, the League would not have been much more effective had the US been a part.

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Probably not, although it was originally Wilson who wanted the Leage of Nations in the Treaty of Versailles. If anything could have been done to prevent a the second coming of the great war, it would have been a lesser punishment against Germany after the first. The seeds of WWII were planted the day the Versailles treaty was signed.

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As O Glorioso said, the seeds of WWII were not just down to the LoN but were more diverse. LoN wasn't strong enough to contain such a threat as Nazism (they had already proved themselves week over Manchuria and Abyssenia), I don't see how the US (especially the US back in the 20s) or any other nation would have changed that. The mistakes of the LoN meant that the UN could learn from then. But would even the UN be strong enough to counter a threat like Nazism? It's proving to be divided on smaller issues.

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There was a series on the History Channel last week about the Presidents. While it was extremely superficial, the episode about Woodrow Wilson told about him having a stroke while trying to get the Leage of Nations passed by the US Congress. The US did not join the League of Nations, possibly because Wilson was too sick to push hard for it.

My question is, if the U.S. had joined the League of Nations, would it really have made any difference in stopping World War II from happening?
Congress and most people at the time were staunch isolationist. They wanted no part of European affairs. Many Democrats at the time fought with Wilson over his stances on foriegn affairs.

It wouldn't have made any difference at all.
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We could have let Canada join too - they'd be the Wonder Twins without the monkey. Or better - the monkey without the useless Wonder Twins.

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We could have let Canada join too - they'd be the Wonder Twins without the monkey. Or better - the monkey without the useless Wonder Twins.
Wasn't the monkey's name Gleek?

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Ironic, ain't it?

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