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Smokers Rights Party?

Tasmanian starts smokers' rights party
9:37 AM January 15

A disgruntled Tasmanian is so disgruntled with the new state laws banning smoking in pubs, he is setting up his own political party to lobby for smokers' rights.

The laws have left many Tasmanian pubs experiencing a significant downturn in business.

Dover resident Andy Devine, 65, has been smoking 50 cigarettes a day for 50 years.

He says the new laws, which came into effect on January 1, are unfair.

"Smoking and beer in pubs have always gone together and will always continue to go together," he said.

Mr Devine has advertised for other unhappy smokers to join him in forming a new smokers' party to stand up for smokers rights at the next state election.

"It's quite easy for a hotel to put in an air-conditioned room for the smokers and not have us all outside like a herd of cattle, which is our primary objection," he said.

"Imagine having a beer outside in the middle of winter when it's howling at 30 or 40 knots and about eight degrees."

Australian Hotels Association spokesman Daniel Hanna says not only the patrons are feeling the impact of the new laws.

"We're finding now that some country pubs are already seeing a reduction in trade of up to around 30 per cent," he said.

Mr Hanna says air-conditioned smoking rooms in pubs and clubs would not reduce the health risks for other patrons and employees.

Source: ABC

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What a joke. When are people going to get it through their thick heads that smoking is NOT a right- it's a filthy habit infringing on the rights of others. But of course, we'll see misguided "libertarians" jump on the pro-smoking cause!

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A smokers party is bound to die a slow death.

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I'll tell you a secret guys...wait for it....



non smokers die too!!



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But later and most likely having lived in much greater health troughout their life.
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what's the big deal bout smoking anyways, i mean as long as they're not blowing it into my face i ain't got a problem
i think i'll start a "Second-hand Smokers Rights Party"

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non smokers die too!!



It might take a while to sink in for them though.




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it's true, they die of all sorts of cancers, diseases, infections, cardiac problems, drunk bus drivers etc. everyday. Some have died as I was writing this.

But true though, smoking is unhealthy, there's no argument there.

But did you also know that there is a direct correlation between the fall of hoola hoop sales and the rise in violent cime??


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I'm a non smoker. However I feel sorry for the smokers in Australia. On one hand they are targetted and their right to smoke nearly anywhere is restricted. On the other hand, the government is OK to tax the shit out of cigarettes, exploit the smoker and make millions.

One day it will reach a point where smokers are captured in public with nets like the humans in Planet of the Apes.

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it's true, they die of all sorts of cancers, diseases, infections, cardiac problems, drunk bus drivers etc. everyday. Some have died as I was writing this.

But true though, smoking is unhealthy, there's no argument there.

But did you also know that there is a direct correlation between the fall of hoola hoop sales and the rise in violent cime??




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non smokers die too!!

With tar free and other untoxicated organs, mind you.
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but some with choked arteries in excrutiating pain...Australia has the second highest rate of heart disease, and is the second most obese nation on earth.

Not to mention what alcohol and it's side affects do everyday, mind you..I'm only a social smoker..but we're getting busy dying everyday..


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More Facism for you. Whether smoking is allowed in pubs/Restaurants/church should be a business decision made by the business owner, not the government. If the business owner wants to segregate a portion of his clientele by banning or allowing smoking in his establishment, that's a business decision. Banning smoking from privately owned business establishments is Fascism. Yet, people go along with these fascist right stampedes but are horrified by a stiff arm salute.

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I take it the ban on smoking indoors in Jersey is already rubbing you the wrong way? I do agree, though, that it should be left up to business owners whether or not they want to allow smoking in their establishments.

Allow me to get tangental: The popularity of hookah bars in Manhattan is on the rise. Naturally, they all allow smoking indoors despite the citywide ban--but only on the water pipe, even though argeelah tobacco is still tobacco. Why then, in such instances when the indoor environment is heavy with the smell of charcoal and smoke, aren't patrons allowed cigarettes? Is it because chicha smoke smells better than cigarette smoke? Is it less taboo?

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I take it the ban on smoking indoors in Jersey is already rubbing you the wrong way? I do agree, though, that it should be left up to business owners whether or not they want to allow smoking in their establishments.

Allow me to get tangental: The popularity of hookah bars in Manhattan is on the rise. Naturally, they all allow smoking indoors despite the citywide ban--but only on the water pipe, even though argeelah tobacco is still tobacco. Why then, in such instances when the indoor environment is heavy with the smell of charcoal and smoke, aren't patrons allowed cigarettes? Is it because chicha smoke smells better than cigarette smoke? Is it less taboo?
Actually, it is now of little consequence to me, since I've quit smoking. I've only posted about it now because it is the first time it's been addressed here, but it's been rubbing me the wrong way ever since they begun infringing on my right to have a beer where and when I choose, without having to wrap it up in some silly paper bag like some shameful retard.

People just have lost the whole concept of freedom, and have become willing slaves just as long as some Fascist doesn’t challenge their delicate sense for theatrics by some silly stiff-arm salute.

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Oh indeed! I own one, and when my mother saw it while on a visit, she shrilly accused me of being a doper and said she hoped nobody else had seen it as "this isn't Amsterdam, missy!" She's not alone; lots of people are under the impression that it's used exclusively for smoking hash.
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Oh indeed! I own one, and when my mother saw it while on a visit, she shrilly accused me of being a doper and said she hoped nobody else had seen it as "this isn't Amsterdam, missy!" She's not alone; lots of people are under the impression that it's used exclusively for smoking hash.
What's a hookah, by the way? And how much do they charge for a happy finish?

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Smoke all you want babes! Just don't saddle me and my insurance premiums with your self-inflicted cancer treatments. :fero:

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Smoke all you want babes! Just don't saddle me and my insurance premiums with your self-inflicted cancer treatments. :fero:
Your insurance premiums are based on your risks (non smokers pay less, for good reason). But I agree completely - any treatment for self-inflicted illnesses should be paid for by those receiving the treatment. Just like a homeowner has to by Excess Flood insurance for living in a flood zone, smokers should have to buy excess coverage for cancer or smoking-related treatment to be covered.

But that is all besides the point.

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