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Chavez wants to help poor people...in the U.S!

Venezuela to sell cut-price heating oil to U.S. poor


CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Monday his government plans to sell as much as 66,000 barrels per day of heating fuel from its U.S. Citgo refinery to poor communities in the United States.

The offer, made after populist Chavez held talks with U.S. civil rights activist Rev. Jesse Jackson, would represent 10 percent of the 660,000 bpd of refined products processed by Citgo. The deals would cut consumer costs by direct sales.

Venezuela's Energy Minister Rafael Ramirez said officials were still working on the details on how the oil would be sold from Citgo, a unit of the state oil firm PDVSA.

"We are going to direct as much as 10 percent of the production, that means 66,000 barrels, without intermediaries, to poor communities, hospitals, religious communities, schools," Chavez told reporters at a press conference.

The world's No. 5 oil exporter, oil cartel OPEC member Venezuela is a key supplier to the United States, providing about 15 percent of all U.S. energy imports.

But relations between Caracas and Washington have become strained since left-winger Chavez was elected in 1998 promising social reforms.

Chavez, a former army officer who survived a coup in 2002, frequently accuses the U.S. of backing efforts to kill him or topple his government. U.S. officials dismiss those charges but say Chavez has become a threat to regional stability.

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How embaressing, I wonder how Bush and co will respond

Imagine how hard it will be justifying invading a country helping your poor
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post #2 of 140 (permalink) Old August 30th, 2005, 20:48
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wow he's outmeneuvred Bush and Co...
Quite an impressive strategy, hats off to Chavez!

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Bush will call him an evil man and enough people in America will believe him or be branded traitors. That's all the justification he'll need.
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What about "The people he helped are all criminals and illegal immigrants"?
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Chavez is an idiot. This is only one proof of his insanity. He should be resigned or overset ASAP cuz of his policy Venezuela can not improve, even they have so much oil.
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You would think that Chavez would worry about the mess that Venezuela is in rather than play stupid political games with Bush. A contracting economy, an ever increasing crime rate, the extincion of the small and medium business sector, a corruption rate similar to the goverments that he once tried to topple in his coup attempt, a goverment fixed exchange rate due to fear of fleeing capital, etc.......but I guess he thinks it is more important to give oil to the poor poeple of the USA:rollani:

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but I guess he thinks it is more important to give oil to the poor poeple of the USA:rollani:
Yeah, and to provide oil and money to Cuba with Castro too... :thmbdown:
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Likewise, the American government could be spending money on health care, education, fighting crime, helping senior citizens, reducing pollution but instead they'd rather spend the money on going to war in iraq so that they could give oil money to their already rich corporations.

Yeah, and to provide some of that money to dicatorial regimes around the world...
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Likewise, the American government could be spending money on health care, education, fighting crime, helping senior citizens, reducing pollution but instead they'd rather spend the money on going to war in iraq so that they could give oil money to their already rich corporations.
these corporations create job vacancies hence all these things you mentioned improves
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this is a publicity stunt. Someone explain the logistics of how he's going to sell only to poor communities?

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Of course its a publicity stunt, but much better than the 'weapons of mass destrution' stunt we witnessed at the UN before ther invasion of Iraq

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Haha guys, this guy is a president, ofcourse he has some dodgy dots in his past but hey atleast he isn't bombing them!

Killing them with kindness p
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Likewise, the American government could be spending money on health care, education, fighting crime, helping senior citizens, reducing pollution but instead they'd rather spend the money on going to war in iraq so that they could give oil money to their already rich corporations.
And how is that related to Chavez? Or is this your way to critize the USA at any turn?

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Likewise, the American government could be spending money on health care, education, fighting crime, helping senior citizens, reducing pollution but instead they'd rather spend the money on going to war in iraq so that they could give oil money to their already rich corporations.


O.K., we won't donate food, money, clothes, goods, and other items that we usually do to the rest of the world. Is that better?
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Haha guys, this guy is a president, ofcourse he has some dodgy dots in his past but hey atleast he isn't bombing them!

Killing them with kindness p
He killed plenty of people during his coup attempt and trying to put down peaceful protests of his presidency.

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O.K., we won't donate food, money, clothes, goods, and other items that we usually do to the rest of the world. Is that better?
I'm still awaiting the outpouring of foreign support for the US hurricane victims. Not a peep so far.

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I'm still awaiting the outpouring of foreign support for the US hurricane victims. Not a peep so far.
It won't happen so don't hold your breath.

Meanwhile, my friend is trying to get in touch with his brother who lives in New Orleans. Lines are cut and everything is under water....
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OMG, don't tell me we are comparing the U.S goverment's faults to Chavez?!!

Since when was there a perfect president? I don't trust any of these bastards but if I had to make a list, Chavez would be ahead of Bush, no contest, their track records don't even compare.
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OMG, don't tell me we are comparing the U.S goverment's faults to Chavez?!!

Since when was there a perfect president? I don't trust any of these bastards but if I had to make a list, Chavez would be ahead of Bush, no contest, their records don't even compare.
at last I hear what I suppose to hear - the truth

Chavez is an idiot and a famous criminal who is a president of one country. Which is one of the most beautiful in the South America. And that beast keeps on making damage to it. I cant stand and look what's happening. He has to be overset immediately.

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OMG, don't tell me we are comparing the U.S goverment's faults to Chavez?!!

Since when was there a perfect president? I don't trust any of these bastards but if I had to make a list, Chavez would be ahead of Bush, no contest, their track records don't even compare.
Really now? Why don't you ask our Venezuelan friends or South American friends like Rae how they feel about it....
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