Originally Posted by yeniceri
The matter of recognition is not a legal prerequist. Especially considering it was not mentioned in the accession documents, its now being used as a tool due to the current political structure. To use it in a PRAGMATIC debate is useless.
You're wrong. Turkey was supposed to sign the document of custom and trade opening with the EU countries, among them the Republic of Cyprus. That, in effect, is a recognition of the Republic of Cyprus as Cypriot passports would have to be accepted in Turkey, planes from Cypriotic airports would be allowed to land in Turkey, and ships under Cypriotic flag to tie in Turkish ports - something that is not the case currently. Now, when the document was signed, Turkey send a declaration saying that they still wouldn't accept these things which cause the comment by De Villepen.
Of course the recognition of the Republic of Cyprus is a prerequesit.
If the current political situation within the E.U. is not condusive to start membership talks with Turkey then so be it. If they're willing to go back on pledges put on paper while pandering to their domestic agenda thats their own business. But going back on political pledges does have its international political price, but its up to the people in question to weigh which is more important.
Turkey has gone back on their pledges as well, by not recognising the Republic of Cyprus.
Originally Posted by yeniceri
One last thing, I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not ( most likely not ) but Greece does not want, I repeat DOES NOT WANT recognition of the Southern Cypriot government as a prerequisite to starting negotiations with Turkey. You're probably wondering why.
You're wrong. Greece is one of the biggest allies of Turkey in their bid to enter the European Union, but the recognition of the Republic of Cyprus was always a prerequisite.
Greece and just about every other country in the region knows if such a thing were a concrete proposal Turkey would pull out of negotiations on the spot. This would be counter productive to the national interests of Greece, a country which is hoping to gain many consessions from Turkey DURING the negotiation process. This is the strategy your country is following at this point. Its a very smart strategy at that. If Turkey pulls out of negotiations Greece gets nothing.
Are you sure Erdogan tells you everything?
By signing the custom and trade agreement, Turkey would be recognising Cyprus. That was the agreement, and Turkey pulled out of it. And now they're about to face the consequences.
And yes, I'm aware of Greece's strategy. It just doesn't work because Turkey's military regime (the ones running the country) are a bunch of fanatics - and fanatics make bad diplomats. However, Greece was the EU's battering ram against Turkey for long enough, now let the other countries (which also do not want Turkey in the EU) to play ball while Greece is sitting back.
Why else would Greek diplomats be so angry with the French foreign minister who has been running around mouthing off about how Turkey must recognize Cyprus before the talks can begin. Many Greek and Greek Cypriot diplomats are furious that France is using Cyprus as a battering ram against Turkey for their own domestic agenda.
The Greek and Cypriot goverments are not angry with the French - in fact De Villepen's comments were a relief. They were angry with Blair. The French prime minister said what makes sense, so Greece and Cyprus do not have to veto - which they would have if Turkey keeps refusing to recognise the Republic of Cyprus.
You really have no clue of what is going on over here.
Basically, here's the deal: Unless Turkey recognises Cyprus, they will not enter the EU. Erdogan might want to take all the time he wants aiming to find a solution to the Cyprus problem before he has to take that, rather unpopular among the Turkish people I gatherm, step, but in the end, he will have to cave in if he wants Turkey in the EU.