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Olympia 2008 - Hungary for gold!

just realised there is no OLympia thread yet, so tessék! I admit I am not too much on fire about this but it's still nice to see our athletes collecting gold and silver and bronze galore and listening to the mighty anthem when it comes to it.

so, actually, where are we going for gold again? is it just the same old things again or any other newcomers we don't count with?

as for the same old stuff, it should be:

- Waterpolo (women and men)
- Kajak-Kanu (every category)
- Fencing
- Swimming (Cseh Laci and that young dude and maybe some bird?)
- Torna (isn't there some dude on the horsejump thing?)
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- Judo
- Shooting (I remember the last 2 times some elder birds won something)
- Wrestling?
- Diskus throwing? (if we are not doped again)
- Ping Pong Womens team?
- Weight Lifting?
- Gombfoci (or is it not olympic yet?)
- Magyarfoci (definitely not olympic)
- Tennis maybe? (if Ági starts in double or so)

what else?

wasn't there the idea once to make Nyíl shooting while riding on a horse an olympic discipline? well, we are #1 in this.
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I'd like to see the medal count start improving from the last two Olympics where we only got 17 medals (of which 8 were gold) in both.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary...y_Summer_Games

More than 10 gold would be a fair target this year.
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for such a small country we are really good, I hope we get top10 (were normally top15 anyway?) so I can stick it to all my Aussie friends who think we suck
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for such a small country we are really good, I hope we get top10 (were normally top15 anyway?) so I can stick it to all my Aussie friends who think we suck
Your Aussie friends should look at the facts....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-tim...es_medal_count

All-time Position in the world
Hungary 9th
Oz 13th

Total number of all-time olympic Gold Medals
Hungary 156
Oz 117

At the moment country population
Hungary 10.5 m
Oz 21.5m

So stick it to your Aussie friends right now and enjoy!

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And we beat you all! It's a shame we're a bit stinky now! Cycling, rowing and sailing should be our best events. Also a few of our athletes could get gold too.
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- Diskus throwing? (if we are not doped again)
Hey hey hey, just hold on a minute.

One of our Gold winners was SCREWED out of his medal by the people in charge. He was robbed of the medal.

Normally after the medal ceremony, they have a doping test done sometime. He had gotten 2, yes, count them, 2 doping tests done, both came back NEGATIVE.

7 days after winning the medal, he went back home, and after he was home, he was informed they wanted a 3RD test done, and as he was not there to be tested, he was stripped of the medal.

He was Annus Adrián, had Gold for the Hammer Throw.
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And we beat you all!
Yes that's correct take a gold

Hungary: Golds 156, population 10+m = 1 per 64k people

Australia: Golds 117, population 21+m = 1 per 182k people

GB: Golds 188, population 60+m = 1 per 322k people

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I don't see how we can garner MORE medals, with a dwindling population.

Unless you're saying only the loser Hungarians are dying out?
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for such a small country we are really good, I hope we get top10 (were normally top15 anyway?) so I can stick it to all my Aussie friends who think we suck
Yes, in fact as far as I know we have the highest ratio of medals-per-person of any country in the world.
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Yes, in fact as far as I know we have the highest ratio of medals-per-person of any country in the world.
Nearly...we're third behind Finland and Sweden!

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/sp...ime-per-capita

but I think we're top for all-time GOLD medals per capita. I'm just struggling to find that confirmed.

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Hey hey hey, just hold on a minute.

One of our Gold winners was SCREWED out of his medal by the people in charge. He was robbed of the medal.
calm down, I know that. my post was meant ironic. as are most of them.
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calm down, I know that. my post was meant ironic. as are most of them.
that damn irony filter is always failing, better have a word with the admin again

Anyway jury still out on that discus one I think, there was a dispute about whose piss they were taking

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Nearly...we're third behind Finland and Sweden!

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/sp...ime-per-capita

but I think we're top for all-time GOLD medals per capita. I'm just struggling to find that confirmed.
Easy enough to work out, just divide the total per capita by total medals and multiply by golds, but sorry, although closer, still 3rd.

Finland 192 per 10m
Sweden 157
Hungary 154

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Yes that's correct take a gold

Hungary: Golds 156, population 10+m = 1 per 64k people

Australia: Golds 117, population 21+m = 1 per 182k people

GB: Golds 188, population 60+m = 1 per 322k people
That's not how it's counted though! p
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That's not how it's counted though! p
Not the count you want to look at no, but we had just started talking about population comparisons when you joined in so the count Ultrafox later posted is more relevant to that discussion.


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Up until 25 years ago, Hungary was ranked 4th in the world in total medals....we're slipping.

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That's not how it's counted though! p
hey we might as well split UK medals into Scotland, England, Wales, and Northern Ireland medals and see what comes out
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Easy enough to work out, just divide the total per capita by total medals and multiply by golds, but sorry, although closer, still 3rd.

Finland 192 per 10m
Sweden 157
Hungary 154
Well I suppose it's how you do it. Remember populations have fluctuated over the century. (eg Trianon) But If we take today's population against total Gold I get a slightly different result.

..............Pop (m)...Gold......Gold/m
Fin...........5.3.........100.......18.86
Hung........10.1 .......156 .....15.44
Swe......... 9.2 ........142......15.43

p

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