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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old July 15th, 2007, 06:45
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UEFA Cup 2007/2008

It gets underway in a few days . We have Metalist, and Dnipro; and who knows, maybe Chornomorets . Dnipro innaugurate their stadium soon, what better time to make a big European run?; experienced, they've not only went far (so they know what it takes) but they've got embarresed recently which could give them a good "kick in the ass". Metalist.... Who knows? All of Kharkiv will be behind them, the stadium will be a sellout each game, especially if they go far (which is pretty much the opposite of Odesa ), but are they ready to play in Eurocups? We'll soon find out.

At least this year, particularly after both Dnipro and Metalist opened the season with convincing wins, we can say we all have at least somewhat of confidence in our teams; unlike last year with a weak, inexperienced Chornomorets' side and a weaker, more inexperienced Zaporizhya side.

PS - What round is Metalist entered in? And Dnipro?
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Metalist is in the First Round; Dnipro is in the 2nd Qualifying round.
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unlike last year with a weak, inexperienced Chornomorets' side and a weaker, more inexperienced Zaporizhya side.
Excuse me, Zaporizhya was much stronger and more experienced last year in UEFA than Chornomorets.

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UEFA Cup draw for 2nd qualifying round on Friday, Aug 3rd.

These are the possible teams Dnipro could face in the Central/Eastern European Zone.

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Unseeded teams            coef.
------------------- --- -------
FK Jablonec         Cze   8.851
Young Boys *        Sui   7.869 (Banaets' Yerevan Arm 1-1)
SV Ried *           Aut   6.104 (Neftchi Baku Azb 3-1) 
SV Mattersburg *    Aut   6.104 (FK Aktobe Kaz 0-1)
MTK Budapest *      Hun   5.675 (Mika Ashtarak Arm 2-1)
GKS Belchatow *     Pol   5.609 (Ameri Tbilisi Geo 2-0)
Honvéd Budapest *   Hun   4.675 (Nistru Otaci Mol 1-1)
Dinamo Tbilisi *    Geo   4.035 (FC Vaduz Lie 2-0) 
FC Zlaté Moravce *  Svk   3.575 (FK Almaty Kaz 3-1) 
Tobol Kustanai @    Kaz   0.770
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Dnipro-Belchatow from poland.

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Dnipro-Belchatow from poland.
GKS Belchatow, a newcomer to the Polish league dramatically not to win the title past season.

I think Dnipro will advance because Polish teams are so unstable. :rollani:

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I think Dnipro will advance because Polish teams are so unstable. :rollani:
I agree Kostja, I think Dnipro, Dynamo & Shakhtar have all been presented with fairly comfortable draws and they will all advance.

It's nice for me because, if they get through, it is almost certain that either Dynamo or Shakhtar will play against an English team in the Group Stage and hopefully I can go along and watch.


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I agree Kostja, I think Dnipro, Dynamo & Shakhtar have all been presented with fairly comfortable draws and they will all advance.

It's nice for me because, if they get through, it is almost certain that either Dynamo or Shakhtar will play against an English team in the Group Stage and hopefully I can go along and watch.

I don't think you will be too pleased to see Man unt-Dynamo!:rollani:

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UEFA 2nd Qualifying Round Draw

Dnipro Dnipropetrovs'k (YKP) - GKS Belchatow * (Pol)

A fairly good draw for Dnipro against a team not very experienced in European competition.
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I don't think you will be too pleased to see Man unt-Dynamo!:rollani:
Why not? I can be there in just over an hour.

Man United v Dynamo would be an excellent game, let's hope the Portugese in the United team don't spoil it with their diving and cheating.

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Why not? I can be there in just over an hour.

Man United v Dynamo would be an excellent game, let's hope the Portugese in the United team don't spoil it with their diving and cheating.
Man unt will not need the portuguese or in fact their main team,their reserve is well enough to put five in shovkovsky goal,just sadly.

With the main team,well 12-1.:rollani:

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Man unt will not need the portuguese or in fact their main team,their reserve is well enough to put five in shovkovsky goal,just sadly.

With the main team,well 12-1.:rollani:
Did you congratulat Salzburg on reaching the group stage yet? :thmbdown: :rollani:
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Dnipro should win, but it wont be easy at all. Belchatow are a decent side and are doing very well in the Polish league, which is improving every year. Their fans will also make it very hard away from home.

Prediction: 2:0 (home), 1:1 (away)
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Belchatow are a decent side (...)
Right.

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(...) and are doing very well in the Polish league (...)
Right.

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(...) which is improving every year. (...)
:dielaugh: (Sorry, but it's so funny )

Wrong.

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(...) Their fans will also make it very hard away from home. (...)
Wrong.

GKS Belchatow is a good team, but they seem to be in much worse form than last season. Our league can be entertaining at times, but usually it's not for football reasons We've done really bad in the Eurocups for the past few years and unfortunately this proves that our league is weak. As for the fans, Belchatow is a small town, so is GKS' stadium and their supporters are not too passionate.

I'll tell you more about this team when the right time comes
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GKS Belchatow is a good team, but they seem to be in much worse form than last season.
Last year they lost a friendly to Karpaty 1-2 (the game was in POland). If they are even worse than that, I see no problems here.
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Oh, come on, last year Legia Warsaw defeated PSG (1:0), Olympique de Marseille (2:0), Rennes (2:1) and Celtic Glasgow (1:0) in friendlies and then was crushed by Shakhtar in the CL qualifiers.

Friendlies mean nothing.
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Oh, come on, last year Legia Warsaw defeated PSG (1:0), Olympique de Marseille (2:0), Rennes (2:1) and Celtic Glasgow (1:0) in friendlies and then was crushed by Shakhtar in the CL qualifiers.

Friendlies mean nothing.
Wth, why u have to rain on my parade? :notlist:
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Right.



Right.



:dielaugh: (Sorry, but it's so funny )

Wrong.



Wrong.

GKS Belchatow is a good team, but they seem to be in much worse form than last season. Our league can be entertaining at times, but usually it's not for football reasons We've done really bad in the Eurocups for the past few years and unfortunately this proves that our league is weak. As for the fans, Belchatow is a small town, so is GKS' stadium and their supporters are not too passionate.

I'll tell you more about this team when the right time comes
Hi, kicker.
I lived in Zabrze for a while and visited a lot of Gornik matches (and some Wisla Krakow). Both were premier league clubs. Gornik (Polish Shakhtar p) at the time was a strong mid-table club while Wisla was one of the best (if not THE best team) in the league. Now when I compare the level of football that was played back then with the level of football today, i definetely see an improvement. Granted i dont watch that much Polish football. Very little of domestic league in fact (now and then i watch the extended highlights of the leagues last rounds just before every Euro cup match involving Polish teams). And believe me, its not as rare as you think to catch a Polish club or NT play live here on local tv. Its all about profit :rollani: ... And if there's an army of Polish viewers requesting to show one of their teams play every euro round, they simply cant refuse... p Jeez they even started inviting Polish pundits to pre and post-match discussions

As for the fans, again imho Polish fan culture is a good few years ahead of ours... In Ukraine we witnessed a lot of possitive changes re: fan clubs and types of support (i.e banners) over the last year or two. But even that is not as widely spread out across the entire league. Some teams have great fan bases, others are next to non-existing. In Poland, even in early 2000's when lived there, Gornik, and especially Wisla had fantastic support, the kind id honetly wouldve found hard to find in Ukraine at the time. Having said that, Polish fans do go overboard sometimes (way more often than us p). I myself witnessed quite a few fights between two rival fan groups, if you can call running away from it and looking behind your shoulders as "witnessing"
Although, i dont approve it, it does show that the fans are passionate about the game and would get behind their team and thus make it harder to get the away result.
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Oh, come on, last year Legia Warsaw defeated PSG (1:0), Olympique de Marseille (2:0), Rennes (2:1) and Celtic Glasgow (1:0) in friendlies and then was crushed by Shakhtar in the CL qualifiers.

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Last year they lost a friendly to Karpaty 1-2 (the game was in POland). If they are even worse than that, I see no problems here.
Was that the same game we scored from almost half way line? p
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