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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old December 3rd, 2006, 19:42 Thread Starter
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If you could make a starting 11 using all the players in UPL (and UFL if you like) who would you have?

I don't know enough about enough teams, but I would definately choose

GK: ?
RB: ?
LB: ?
CB: Rusol
CB: Kucher
RM: Husyev
DM: Tymoschuck
AM: Rincon
LM: ?
ST: Vorobei
ST: ?

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If you could make a starting 11 using all the players in UPL (and UFL if you like) who would you have?

I don't know enough about enough teams, but I would definately choose

GK: ?
RB: ?
LB: ?
CB: Rusol
CB: Kucher
RM: Husyev
DM: Tymoschuck
AM: Rincon
LM: ?
ST: Vorobei
ST: ?

seriously. did you pull half of those names out of your ass?

Rusol? Kucher? VOROBEI??????
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seriously. did you pull half of those names out of your ass?

Rusol? Kucher? VOROBEI??????
Yes, now you have criticised my oppinion, how about giving yours?

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@fayban: Give us your version then, smartass? :rollani:

Im not prepared to give you the final list, but I will give you some names I thoguht did well to be considered for this team. These are based on the games I've seen of course...

GK: out of all goalkeepers I liked Kernozenko the most... His cleansheet stats for Dnipro also speak for themselves... Horyainov of Metalist, Tlumak of Karpaty and Pyatov of Vorskla have also been solid.

RB: still the hardest position to evaluate. I honestly cant remember anyone who looked decent and consintant. Yezersky? Markovic? Husyev? Srna?

CB: Dynamo's and Shakhtar's main players didnt really impress me much, but their loaned players, Cheberyachko and Korotetskyi respectedly, did. I wasnt dissapointed by performances of Shershun & Rusol of Dnipro, Stoyan of Arsenal and Chyhrynsky of Shakthar, even though he missed a lot of the opening games, he came back strong.

LB: Its probably between Romanchuk of Arsenal, Kaddouri of Dynamo and Andriyenko of Dnipro. If I had to pick one it would be Romanchuk.

RM: Definetely between Khudobayk of Karpaty and Mykhalyk of Dynamo. You could squeeze Husyev in, if he's not considered for the RB position.

DM: The only two that stood out were Tymoschuk as usual and Danylovsky of Chornomorets, who has also scored a decent number of goals for a defensive mid.

AM: This one is the hardest IMHO. There are Rebrov, Nazarenko, Rykun, Fernandinho, Kankava... Take your pick.

LM: I liked Serhiy Kravchenko (not too confuse with Dnipro's youngster) and Godin. You could squeeze Rebrov here if there's no place for him as an AM.

ST: If I had to pick two: Hladkyi of Kharkiv and Batista of Karpaty. Gigiadze is also a strong competition, but most of his goals came from penalty kicks and I dont rate that as much. There are also Zeze and Belyk, but the first one didnt score enough and the latter didnt play enough to make them serious contenders imho...

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@fayban: Give us your version then, smartass? :rollani:
ok, it may have sounded alittle assholish, but come on, in what kind of alternate reality does VOROBEI get a nomination for something like this.

as far as my team, hey why not pick the players that are dominating the league for the millionth time in a row. Shahta and Dynamo rosters as my all-UPL team. maybe Nazarenko gets a write in vote, but no room for him in the midfield anyway.
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ST: If I had to pick two: Hladkyi of Kharkiv and Batista of Karpaty. Gigiadze is also a strong competition, but most of his goals came from penalty kicks and I dont rate that as much. There are also Zeze and Belyk, but the first one didnt score enough and the latter didnt play enough to make them serious contenders imho...
Yeah, and Marica doesn't count. Excuse me Roma but your whole list is sooo terribly biased in favour of xenophobia and support of Karpaty Lviv that it is too hard to discuss seriously. :rollani:

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Yeah, and Marica doesn't count. Excuse me Roma but your whole list is sooo terribly biased in favour of xenophobia and support of Karpaty Lviv that it is too hard to discuss seriously. :rollani:
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Well the league standings says it all,it should be a based Dynamo/Shakhtar roster.

So i agree with Kostja and Fayban.

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ok, it may have sounded alittle assholish, but come on, in what kind of alternate reality does VOROBEI get a nomination for something like this.
Sure, Vorobei is surely one thing I cant disagree with you here
...especially putting him as a striker... p
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Yeah, and Marica doesn't count. Excuse me Roma but your whole list is sooo terribly biased in favour of xenophobia and support of Karpaty Lviv that it is too hard to discuss seriously. :rollani:
Whatever you say... 6 Karpaty (3 of which are ex, 2 of which should undoubtedle be shortlisted: Chyhrynsky and Danylovsky)
Out of the current Karpaty players listed (Khudobyak, Batista and Tlumak), you can only question Tlumak, but he has kept us in the game so many times, so 6th place wouldnt be a reality without his saves...
Anyway, for the goalie position, as I stated previously, there's no competition: Kernozenko
Khudobyak and Batista - if you doubt their place in this list - then I will start doubting your footballing expertise...
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Well the league standings says it all,it should be a based Dynamo/Shakhtar roster.

So i agree with Kostja and Fayban.
Why should it? Did you really think Shakhtar's and Dynamo's defense/goalies did better than Dnipro's?
Or strikers? Were they really that impressive having such quality playmakers behind them?
Come on, get that bias out of your head...
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Why should it? Did you really think Shakhtar's and Dynamo's defense/goalies did better than Dnipro's?
Or strikers? Were they really that impressive having such quality playmakers behind them?
Come on, get that bias out of your head...
No,you opinion is based on the european performances of Dynamo and in some degree of Shakhtar...Dynamo 38 goals,shakhtar 36,then the other team that comes close is Metalist 18 goals,this tells who have the best playmakers and strikers in the league,even Buratino scored 6 goals in the league.:rollani:

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@Kostja: In my defense I totally forgot about Marica... p
Sorry... I'd shortlist him, but wouldnt guarantee the place... This is the UPL AllStar, not Euro Competition Ukrainian teams AllStar... Marica played in europe much much better...

@Kleber: well, most of those goals came from round the pitch, so why should strikers get praised for that? Like I mentioned above, only Marica out of all Dynamo/Shakthar strikers should be shortlisted, I repeat IMHO...

P.S. Its the easiest thing t critisize someone elses opinion, but give us yours? :rollani:
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@Kostja: In my defense I totally forgot about Marica... p
Sorry... I'd shortlist him, but wouldnt guarantee the place... This is the UPL AllStar, not Euro Competition Ukrainian teams AllStar... Marica played in europe much much better...

@Kleber: well, most of those goals came from round the pitch, so why should strikers get praised for that? Like I mentioned above, only Marica out of all Dynamo/Shakthar strikers should be shortlisted, I repeat IMHO...

P.S. Its the easiest thing t critisize someone elses opinion, but give us yours? :rollani:
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@Kostja: In my defense I totally forgot about Marica... p
Sorry... I'd shortlist him, but wouldnt guarantee the place... This is the UPL AllStar, not Euro Competition Ukrainian teams AllStar... Marica played in europe much much better...

@Kleber: well, most of those goals came from round the pitch, so why should strikers get praised for that? Like I mentioned above, only Marica out of all Dynamo/Shakthar strikers should be shortlisted, I repeat IMHO...

P.S. Its the easiest thing t critisize someone elses opinion, but give us yours? :rollani:
Mine?

Gk,Todic or Deonas
rb,Kvirkvelia,very poor position overall.
Cb,Chihrinsky
Cb,kucher,another one,no class Cb in the upl.
Lb,kaddouri
Rw,husiev
Hb,timochuk
Cm,Rebrov
Lw,matuzalem
St,Marica
St,Gigiadze

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Mine?

Gk,Todic or Deonas
rb,Kvirkvelia,very poor position overall.
Cb,Chihrinsky
Cb,kucher,another one,no class Cb in the upl.
Lb,kaddouri
Rw,husiev
Hb,timochuk
Cm,Rebrov
Lw,matuzalem
St,Marica
St,Gigiadze
No Kleber?!

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Mine?

Gk,Todic or Deonas
rb,Kvirkvelia,very poor position overall.
Cb,Chihrinsky
Cb,kucher,another one,no class Cb in the upl.
Lb,kaddouri
Rw,husiev
Hb,timochuk
Cm,Rebrov
Lw,matuzalem
St,Marica
St,Gigiadze
Deonas? Arsenal is No 10 by goals against.
Kvirkvelia, Gigiadze? What is it, a Gerogian leauge?
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No Kleber?!
I am not biased like some people here.:rollani:

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I am not biased like some people here.:rollani:
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Deonas? Arsenal is No 10 by goals against.
Kvirkvelia, Gigiadze? What is it, a Gerogian leauge?
Overall,the keepers are a disgrace,so is not a easy choice.
Yeah,it looks like,Kankava is in the reserve list.:rollani:

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