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post #1 of 637 (permalink) Old October 13th, 2005, 16:58 Thread Starter
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Euro-2006 (Under-21)

U-21 Qualification stage slightly differs from the one for National teams...
Here you are not quaranteed the place in the World Cup upon winning the group... All first and second placed teams will play each other in the 2-legged play-off... All group winners will play all runners up... The actual draw for the play-off took place today in Switzerland... and here are the results:
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Ukraine U-21	vs	Belgium U-21
Russia U-21	vs	Denmark U-21
England U-21	vs	France U-21
Serbia & M. U-21	vs	Croatia U-21
Czech Rep U-21	vs	Germany U-21
Slovenia U-21	vs	Netherlands U-21
Hungary U-21	vs	Italy U-21
Switzerland U-21	vs	Portugal U-21
Belgium won their group in which they played against Serbia & Montenegro, Spain, Lithuania, Bosnia & Herzegovina and San Marino...
Ukraine U-21 came second in their group where they met with Denmark (group winners), Turkey, Greece, Georgia, Albania and Kazakhstan...

The games will be played on November 12 and 16
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post #2 of 637 (permalink) Old October 13th, 2005, 20:07
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Actually it's not a U21 World Cup (don't think that actually exists) but the U21 Euro which is held every 2 years.

In any case beware of Belgium, they've got a dangerous team. Just look at results like

Belgium 1-0 Spain
SCG 1-1 Belgium (our U21s only draw; we beat Spain at home)
Belgium 4-0 SCG
Spain 2-2 Belgium (for comparison, our U21s lost in Spain, 2-0)

etc

they're not first in their group for nothin'
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Yeah you're actually right... I was just thinking of WC2006 in Germany... Anyway, its gonna be a tough game for sure
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post #4 of 637 (permalink) Old October 13th, 2005, 22:31
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Hi guys

I must admit I don't know much about your -21NT, but it is true that Ukrainian youth football has an excellent reputation here. I do know Milevskyi and Aliyev from the -20WC in Holland last summer. Certainly the first is one hell of a player I think. Are they part of the selection that will face Belgium?
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Yes, they are... Aliev is a brilliant play-maker, who also scores lots of goals (usually more than attackers).. He's a midfielder btw...
Milevsky, on the other hand has a good technique, he dribbles well, great vision to set up a goal, but his only weakness is poor converting of his chances...
As a center striker, thats a big minus, but he still young and so can improve...

As for ur other question, id like to think that we do have a good and promising young players... They showed it this year in Holland where they were a bit unlucky to lose out to Nigeria, who later did REALLY well in the tournament...

Most of the U-21 players are from Dynamo Kyiv, some of them are playing in other clubs on loan though... In the recent games, I also noticed that a lot of Shakhtars youngsters were also called up and they paid devidents by securing the 2nd spot in the group which gave us a chance to play you in the play-off...
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Olexiy Mylhaylenko has reveiled the list of players called up for U-21 play-off games:


Goalkeepers
=> Andriy Pyatov (Vorskla)
=> Bohdan Shust (Karpaty)
Interestingly both of them will go head-to-head later this month in the Ukrainian Cup 1/4 final...

Defenders:
=> Andriy Bashlay (Dynamo Kyiv)
=> Olexandr Romanchuk (Dynamo Kyiv)
=> Mykola Ischenko (Karpaty)
=> Dmytro Chygrynskiy (Metalurh Z)
=> Dmytro Nevmyvaka (Metalurh Z)
=> Yevhen Cheberyachko (FC Kharkiv)
=> Olexandr Yatsenko (FC Kharkiv)
=> Hryhoriy Yarmash (Vorskla)

Midfileders:
=> Olexandr Sytnyk (Dynamo Kyiv)
=> Dmytro Vorobey (Dynamo Kyiv)
=> Olexandr Aliev (Dynamo Kyiv)
=> Adrian Pukanych (Illichivets)
=> Ivan Kryvosheenko (Illichivets)
=> Olexandr Maxymov (FC Kharkiv)
=> Andriy Oberemko (FC Kharkiv)

Strikers:
=> Serhiy Pivnenko (Illichivets)
=> Artem Milevsky (Dynamo Kyiv)
=> Maxym Feschuk (Karpaty)
=> Ruslan Fomin (Shakhtar Donetsk)
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No real surprises in the squad I don't fink.

I get the impression theres some people that aren't too confident about this fixture, but Ukraina is on a bit of a role, let's keep it coming.

shambolic to hear that the WBC may consider stripping Klitschko of his World Championship belt if he is unable to fight this year after pulling out of Saturdays, what would have been an anti-climax against Rahman due to a knee injury.
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No real surprises in the squad I don't fink.

I get the impression theres some people that aren't too confident about this fixture, but Ukraina is on a bit of a role, let's keep it coming.

shambolic to hear that the WBC may consider stripping Klitschko of his World Championship belt if he is unable to fight this year after pulling out of Saturdays, what would have been an anti-climax against Rahman due to a knee injury.
Well, according to his doctor he can still fight as long as he puts a tight bandage on his knee, but Klitchko simply refuses to go into this fight against Rahman (not the first time i should add)...
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Nah..Klichko wanted to fight, from what I read, the doctor suggested a bandage, but he said it still wouldnt work and he couldnt move well enough....

Anyways, about our U21's

2 Vorskla players
3 Karpaty players
6 Dynamo players
2 Zakarpattia players
4 FC Kharkiv players
3 Illichivets players
and 1 player from Shakhtar :dielaugh: :thmbdown:

But, for the most part, nice to see players from all types of different teams. I dont know much about Pyatov from Poltava, but I know Shust is an amazing keeper, and I would definatly be confident in our chances if he was #1..
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Well, you have to take into consideration that some of those players like Chygrynsky, Oberemenko, Pukanych, Pivnenko, etc, are on loan from either Dynamo or Shakhtar...
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First game is in Mariupol; second is in Lokeren
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True..I wonder why they're playing the game in Mariupil I thought L'viv would be a good place, hopefully they get alot of support, and hopefully its cold so our boys have the advantage.
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What advantage, do we have thicker coats or something?
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cold weather is not always good, remember the slovenia game in Kyiv in 1999.
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What advantage, do we have thicker coats or something?


I think what you meant, Kozak, was "hopefully it will rain and we'll have the advantage"... I always thought that in a rainy weather our players would do better against quality opposition than they would in a dry weather, mainly because in a rain its much harder to play attractive technical football...

BUT, i dont think it applies for our Youth team... I've seen our youngsters and technically they are as good as any other big European team... They can play at a very quick tempo, they can pass the ball one-touch, they usually dont play long ball (like our senior players) but short direct passes...

So, I'd say lets hope Mariupol knows how to support their team and become our "12th player"... Whatever some might say, loud and passionate support does help the players to push on and does have a negative effect on the opposition, especially with the U-21 players, who are still quite inexperienced and cant handle the noise and the pressure as well as their older counterparts...
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Shizzzee....Belgium are leading in Ukraine 1:0 :depress: 20th minute
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1:1 Pukanych!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the reports of it, Ukraine are looking the better team and have created 4 good opportunities, but Belgium's talisman capitalized on some super-shitty defending.

C'mmon guys! we need another 2 at least
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Okay we just had three players booked in 4 minutes!

Ruslan Fomin- 38th
Olexandr Yatsenko - 41st
Andrei Oberemko -42nd

Wow, what a way to end the half! We don't need to defenders wlaking on eggs shells for the next 45minutes :irritate:
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Okay we just had three players booked in 5 minutes!

Ruslan Fomin- 38th
Olexandr Yatsenko - 41st
Andrei Oberemko -42nd

Wow, what a way to end the half! We don't need to defenders walking on eggs shells for the next 45minutes :irritate:
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Okay 1:2 - Vandenberg 45'. Belgium score another one, this game is now completely in their control :notlist: :depress: :frownani:
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