Originally Posted by Pape
I completely agree with this part. The trouble is though that we have to manoeuvre within the context of this specific Bosnian situation. That framework basically comes down to the fact that our Premier/Cirkus Liga sucks like no league has ever sucked before. We have virtually no talent coming through via our domestic clubs to the big competitions of Europe. When was the last time someone from our league went directly to a (sub-)top European club? These guys are not in the position to even 'prove' themselves when they play for clubs like Khimki, Litex, Zilina, ****ing Saba battery or whatever it's called, cause that way they will always remain below the NT level. The NT level we deserve, that is. This is exactly the reason why I wasn't overly happy with for instance Spahic staying in the Russian league (with due respect) despite his reasons were completely legit.
The reason why I'm mentioning the BiH PL is the fact that because of this lack of talent coming through (NOT talent, we have that, it is the league, the managers, lack of competion, low pays, etc etc) our hopes are, if not primarily then surely for a big part focused on the diaspora and all those young fellows who have had their football education in other countries. Ibisevic, Pjanic, Muslimovic, Ibrahimovic, Jakupovic, Tahirovic, Misimovic, Medunjanin, the list is endless... They have already proven themselves more than some guy playing for a low table Romanian club will ever do. That's why we get so delirious every time a new name pops up, and at the same time very afraid his new homeland will snatch them from us forever. And it is in this process that we lose our heads and become too enthusiastic.
Salihamidzic, Barbarez, Papac, Bajramovic, Dzeko and Muslimovic are the guys who did it all by themselves with the help of nothing but their sheer quality, something that cannot be said about the Bosnian contingent in the leagues such as the Russian one.
The bad standard of the BIH league is for many many reasons, but it will always be below what we feel it should be since there is no money there. (like you mentioned)
We take the standard of the BIHPL a bit personally because its our country but the fact remains that we have countries that are world powers in fudbal and they dont have a great league.(Czech Rep. Portugal is not great, Croatia etc etc) What does that tell you? Money plays the main role in having a good league. We dont produce any players from BIHPL because all the good players have no interest in playing at that low level.
The main key to being a good soccer country is good youth development, you'll see that with Czech Rep, Portugal, and Croatia.
The real advantage England, Spain, Italy, have, by having a good league, is that they dont have to do much scouting. All their players are at a central place. And if its your league, run mostly by coaches of that nationality, you will get most of your players, ones with any potential, in there. So it provides opportunity and it allows all your players to stay at a central place so watching their development and improving them becomes easier.
So in many ways, I do agree. However I do have to disagree that Bosnian players don't have a chance if they go to Litex or some of these other clubs. I mean you have to prove yourself there, stand out, to go better. And I do believe places like Austria, Turkey, Belgium, do bring those chances.
Unfortunatley our problem is not just a crappy league, our youth teams suck. I mean if our U21 team was strong, if we had major recognition as Serbia lets say in that area, it be a lot easier to sell a lot of those guys to solid clubs. So the bad youth teams is a lot bigger problem then the crappy league at this point. Because nobody will have a great league except the richest of the bunch.
However, I'll say again. I think if the talent is there, the players do still have a good shot of making it at a good league, no matter if the BIH league is crappy.