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post #1 of 1241 (permalink) Old September 19th, 2007, 02:06 Thread Starter
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Nogometni/Fudbalski Savez BiH(NFSBIH)

I have been thinking about this for a while now. I have come to the conclusion that our Football Association deserves it's own thread.
Here we can discuss the Comics of our Football.
Great names such as:
Milan Jelic
Iljo Dominkovic
Sulejman Colakovic
Munib Usanovic
Ahmed Pasalic

Or

Ivica Osim
Vahid Halilhodzic
Dusan Bajevic
Safet Susic
Mehmed Bazdarevic
Meho Kodro
Sergej Barbarez?

Let's get it rolling

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Od Drine do Une

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post #2 of 1241 (permalink) Old September 19th, 2007, 02:07 Thread Starter
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I actually wrote two emails today, directed at UEFA/FIFA and tried to make them aware of the politics within our football.

SAVE OUR FOOTBALL

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Quote:
Milan Jelic
Iljo Dominkovic
Sulejman Colakovic
Munib Usanovic
Ahmed Pasalic
This scum dont deserve a thread.

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1.RD Velez Mostar-Spartak Moscow 2:0 1:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Rapid Wien 1:0 1:1
3.RD Velez Mostar-Derby County 4:1 1:3

1987-88 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Sion 5:0 0:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Borussia Dortmund 2:1 0:2

1988-89 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-APOEL 1:0 5:2
2.RDVelez Mostar-Belenenses0:0 0:0(4:3 pk's)

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The reason i added them is because if UEFA and FIFA do a web search they will find this destination and realize what kind of scum they are :P(TOTALLY BSED THAT)

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Od Drine do Une

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Barba for President,Kodro Bazdarevic,Osim or Vaha for selektor,then and only then will we qualify for a major tournament.It will never happen though

1974-75 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Spartak Moscow 2:0 1:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Rapid Wien 1:0 1:1
3.RD Velez Mostar-Derby County 4:1 1:3

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2.RD Velez Mostar-Borussia Dortmund 2:1 0:2

1988-89 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-APOEL 1:0 5:2
2.RDVelez Mostar-Belenenses0:0 0:0(4:3 pk's)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQfa5fuTWpM

Interesting Video I didn't see before. Titled: NFSBiH: Birokrati vazniji od fudbalera!

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post #7 of 1241 (permalink) Old September 19th, 2007, 05:28
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poserem ti se u ovaj thread
i'm going to boycott it

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post #8 of 1241 (permalink) Old September 19th, 2007, 10:21
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Milan Jelic
This is the sadest part of this so called "Savez". It's just respectless, not only to those who follow Bosnian NT, but also to the country.

Anyway, good idea for a thread, since there is alot of discussion about it, and it's definitly the number one reason our NT is in such a chaos. I'll write more on this issue, but have to write some school thingy about some famous viking
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Optužnica protiv Pašalića, Ušanovića i Kureša
Tužilaštvo BiH, nakon gotovo dvogodišnje istrage, uskoro će podići optužnicu protiv nekolicine čelnika Nogometnog/Fudbalskog saveza BiH, osumnjičenih za kriminal i korupciju, saznaju Nezavisne novine.
Glavnoosumnjičeni su direktor svih reprezentativnih selekcija Ahmet Pašalić, generalni sekretar Saveza Munib Ušanović, sekretar za finansije Miodrag Kureš i nekolicina saradnika, a Tužilaštvo BiH ih tereti da su od početka 2001. do kraja 2006. godine utajili oko 2,3 miliona KM po raznim osnovama za poreze i doprinose, te u istom periodu pronevjerili oko 430.000 KM!

Banjalučki list saznaje da je finansijski vještak, kojeg je Tužilaštvo angažovalo nakon višemjesečne provjere, utvrdio velike propuste u poslovanju i milionski manjak u kasi Saveza, a u gotovo svim finansijskim transakcijama pominju se Ušanović i Kureš. Da su čelnici Saveza na sve načine nastojali da prikriju kriminal, potvrđuje i podatak da je vještak u prethodnom periodu čak tri puta tražio dokumente koje mu iz Saveza nisu htjeli dati, nakon čega je intervenisala Državna agencija za istrage i zaštitu (SIPA), čiji su pripadnici izuzeli većinu dokumentacije o poslovanju Saveza i predali je Tužilaštvu BiH.

Vještak je nakon višemjesečne provjere utvrdio da manjak gotovine u NS BiH u periodu od 1. januara do kraja 2005. godine iznosi čak 430.000 KM. Prema istim nalazima, NS BiH je od 1. januara 2001. do 31. decembra 2005. godine manje obračunao, prijavio i uplatio oko 360.000 KM poreza na promet proizvoda i usluga. U istom periodu, čelnici NS BiH su utajili oko 97.000 KM poreza na plate, te čak oko 900.000 KM poreza na dodatna primanja!

U obimnoj dokumentaciji finansijski vještak Tužilaštvo BiH upozorava i na izbjegavanje plaćanja doprinosa državi po raznim osnovama. Tako je utvrdio da najodgovorniji ljudi u Savezu od početka 2001. do kraja 2006. godine nisu uplatili oko 600.000 KM doprinosa za PIO, a u istom periodu i oko 300.000 KM doprinosa za zdravstvo. Takođe, od januara 2001. do oktobra 2006. godine NS BiH je državi izbjegao platiti i oko 80.000 KM doprinosa za nezaposlene.

Praveći finansijski izvještaj za potrebe istrage Tužilaštva BiH, vještak je utvrdio da je za sve godine knjigovodstvena dokumentacija u Savezu vođena neuredno, te da je neažurna i nepotpuna. Takođe je utvrdio da Ušanović i društvo nadležnoj poreskoj upravi nisu dostavljali potrebne obrasce, iako su to bili dužni činiti.

Na koje su sve načine čelni ljudi Saveza trošili ogroman novac, potvrđuje i dio izvještaja u kojem je navedeno da su tokom 2005. godine iz kase Saveza isplaćivana i sredstva za konzumaciju jela i pića, kao i za razne namjene! Vještak je utvrdio da se ostale isplate u 2005. godini odnose na nagrade i premije, pomoć uposlenicima i saradnicima, naknade Upravnom odboru i komisijama, te akontacije za službeni put.

Vještak je i u ovoj kao i za prethodne godine naveo niz primjera o finansijskim malverzacijama Pašalića, Ušanovića, Kureša i saradnika. Tako je zabilježio da je u februaru 2005. godine u kasi evidentiran polog pazara od 61.000 KM, koji je odobrio Ušanović, a novac je primio Kureš. U dnevniku blagajne evidentiran je polog pazara, kao ulaz gotovine, ali je u dnevniku blagajne storniran ulaz oko 95.000 KM, te po tom osnovu umanjen iznos gotovine u kasi! Vještak je utvrdio da je Ušanović nepravilno stornirao ulaz oko 28.000 KM gotovine, te da je za taj iznos umanjeno stanje u blagajni.

Navodeći primjer iz maja 2005. godine, vještak je utvrdio da je u dnevniku blagajne evidentirana isplata 5.000 KM "kao naknada po ugovoru za maj Blažu Sliškoviću" (bivšem selektoru Nogometne reprezentacije BiH), koju je odobrio Ušanović, a kontrolisao Kureš. Međutim, vještak nije našao nikakav dokaz da je Slišković taj novac i dobio.

Nezavisne su u oktobru prošle godine objavile serijal tekstova o nalazima vještaka o kriminalu u Nogometnom savezu BiH od 2001. do kraja 2004. godine, te desetine primjera o finansijskim malverzacijama. Na listi osoba koje su dizale akontacije iz kase Saveza (od kojih većina nikada nije vraćena), su i sportski radnici, sudije, selektori i treneri, administrativni radnici NS BiH, te pojedini sportski novinari i ljudi bliski Savezu. Gotovo sve finansijske transakcije kojima vještak (ogromnoj većini) nije mogao ući u trag odobravao je Ušanović, a isplaćivao Kureš, u većini slučajeva nečitkim potpisima.

Kako je novac nestajao

Kako su čelnici NS BiH dijelili novac iz blagajne, potvrđuje niz primjera vještaka iz nekoliko prethodnih godina. Tako je utvrđeno da je u maju 2001. godine evidentiran izlaz iz blagajne oko 40.000 KM namijenjenih za nagrade fudbalerima. Međutim, taj izvještaj niko nije potpisao, niti je vještak našao dokaze da su fudbaleri dobili taj novac! U novembru iste godine iz kase je podignuto oko 30.000 KM, takođe za nagrade fudbalerima, isplatu je nečitkim potpisom odobrio Ušanović, a Kureš je podigao novac. Vještak opet nije našao dokaze da su reprezentativci dobili taj novac.

Jedan od niza primjera finansijskih malverzacija je iz 2003. godine, kada je iz kase NS BiH za troškove utakmica Rumunija - BiH i Luksemburg - BiH u dva navrata isplaćeno oko 40.000 KM, ali vještak ponovo nije našao tragove gdje je novac završio. Na sličan način je iz blagajne Saveza u oktobru 2003. godine nestalo oko 50.000, a u decembru čak 96.000 KM!

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Maybe the end is near for these two?

Getting rid of Pasalic would be pretty huge since he is the Director. Thats a very important position. I mean he takes care of all the selections and he is the one that should be constantly talking with the A representatives. You get a respected player in the position, the players would always be in better moral.

Usanovic..he's just a secretary. The only problem for him is that he doesn't have big boobs.
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HAJMO IH RUSIT!

Legende BH Fudbala:

Sergej Barbarez, Meho Kodro, Elvir Bolic, Emir Spahic, Zlatan Bajramovic, Sasa Papac, Muhamed Konjic, Mirsad Hibic, Zvjezdan Misimovic.
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Is Elvir Bolic a candidate, I mean he has the most goals and all, and hes old I wonder if he could be some sort of coach for the team.

And is Nedim Halilovic one of the players boycotting the NT.

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Vjeran svetom domu svome,
Vjeran slavi svojih djeda
I narodu Bosanskome!

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Think Bolic is working as a agent now and Halilovic isnt boycotting
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I always thought Halilovic was a good player, Do you think he woul dmake a good addition to our squad?

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I narodu Bosanskome!

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Izgleda da je onaj parapsiholog bio u pravu. Predvidio je da ce do kraja ove ili pocetkom sljedece godine biti sve rijeseno u savezu i da ce sve krenuti kako treba.

Kaa-ko se tresu tribine sada....!! 11/10/03 (41:35 min)

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No, I dont think so BDS. He's playing for a pretty bad team in Swedish league and he doesn't score to many goals. We also have many forwards...
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Oh ok then.It wold be great if there was a complete change in the savez, Bolic is a agent, I think he would be a great coach or sme sort of helper for the NT, he is our top goalscorer and has the most caps.

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There is a procedure in place for people getting elected into the higher savez positions. I don't know the exact details but i know you have to work your way up. I think you have to represent a kanton or something like that. You have to be a member of the savez before your colleagues can nominate you and then a vote is held. you cannot just squeeze the likes of Osim, Kodro and so on in beacuse of their name unless the rules governing election change. You also have to take into account taht even though we don't like it, the charter dictates that there is a certain percentage of all 3 peoples in those positions. And this is usually at the expense of quality, experience or good intentions.

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Good post Bosanac.

All we can hope is to have football people in football positions. Therefore, the Director of Football is a major position (and that is why getting rid of Pasalic is huge) A good person there can affect a wide range of things we constantly complain about. They can help find BIH talents all over the globe, they can create good relationships with the players and create a good moral in the NT..and they will have a word in selection of the manager. You get a good guy there all of the sudden the Presidents don't have much power..they will not only want to relegate football matters to them but will feel the need to have to because people will get on them if they don't.
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Iljo, Suljo i Milan uzvraćaju udarac

Danas je u Modriči održana sjednica Predsjedništva N/FS BiH na kojoj...
je Predsjedništvo N/FS BiH odlučilo da se krene u borbu protiv novinara koji prema njihovu mišljenju pišu (ne)istinu o lopovluku u Fudbalskom savezu BiH.

Na sjednici Predsjedništva jednoglasno je zauzet stav da se pokrene odgovarajući postupak protiv novinara koji su u proteklom periodu neprimjereno optuživali članove Predsjedništva zbog rezultatskog neuspjeha A reprezentacije, te protiv svih fudbalskih radnika koji su putem medija komentarisali vođenje takmičenja u Premier ligi, prejudicirajući odluke takmičarskih organa.

Također, zazuzet je stav da se putem advokata Saveza pokrene postupak protiv novinara Nezavisnih novina i ostalih medija koji su iznijeli netačne informacije o navodnim kriminalnim radnjama pojedinih uposlenika Saveza.

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1987-88 UEFA CUP
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2.RD Velez Mostar-Borussia Dortmund 2:1 0:2

1988-89 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-APOEL 1:0 5:2
2.RDVelez Mostar-Belenenses0:0 0:0(4:3 pk's)

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