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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old May 13th, 2006, 17:51 Thread Starter
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Its Official..........Velez is promoted

Velez-Podgrmec 5:1

With this win and the fact that both Rudar and Brotnjo lost, Velez is back in the Premier League,where we belong

1974-75 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Spartak Moscow 2:0 1:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Rapid Wien 1:0 1:1
3.RD Velez Mostar-Derby County 4:1 1:3

1987-88 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Sion 5:0 0:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Borussia Dortmund 2:1 0:2

1988-89 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-APOEL 1:0 5:2
2.RDVelez Mostar-Belenenses0:0 0:0(4:3 pk's)

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old May 13th, 2006, 18:00
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Yeah, was just going to post about it. Congrats! Things are finally back in order. Velez are in the place they should be now.
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Dobrodosli u Bijeli pakao!!

Sad pod Bijeli Brijed po porciju !!


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congratulations and welcome to the shit corrupt league we call the BiH PL

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dosli po porciju, a uzeli restoran

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neka im restorana, opstanak im je na prvom mjestu.


And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
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post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old May 15th, 2006, 18:14 Thread Starter
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Zbog čega volimo Velež?


Za Velež ne navijaju samo Mostarci već i ljudi diljem BiH koji su u Mostaru bili možda jednom ili nijednom


Teško bi bilo u Bosni i Hercegovini naći zaljubljenika u fudbalsku igru koji nije bio obradovan viješću da se mostarski Velež konačno vratio u Premijer ligu BiH.
Govorimo, naravno, o istinskim zaljubljenicima u najvažniju sporednu stvar na svijetu, a ne o onima koji svoje političke, nacionalne i svake druge frustracije pokušavaju liječiti na i oko sportskih terena.
Veležov povratak u elitno bh. fudbalsko takmičenje nekako se čini kao pobjeda pravde nad nepravdom s kojom "rođeni" žive već 14 godina. I zato za Velež svih ovih godina ne navijaju samo Mostarci već i ljudi diljem BiH koji su u Mostaru bili možda jednom ili nijednom.
Vratio se Velež u Premiker ligu, ali još čeka povratak na svoj stadion pod Bijelim brijegom. A tu su na sceni već spomenute frustracije.
Smiješno je obrazloženje koje je prije nekoliko dana u televizijskom prilogu izrekao jedan od čelnih ljudi Veležovog rivala Zrinjskog o tome zašto dva kluba ne mogu koristiti isti stadion. Najkraće rečeno, trava će se previše gaziti, pa će travnjak biti neuvjetan za igru! Ma, bogati!
Igraju Inter i Milan na istom stadionu, Sedorf i Gatuzo na jednoj utakmici pretrče više i više puta ukližu nego kompletni timovi koji su ikada igrali u Mostaru, pa travi ništa. A ako joj šta i bude, eto, brate, Neretve, pa nek' se travnjak zalijeva.
I slabije upućeni, naravno, znaju da u gradu opterećenim nacionalnim odnosima priča o travi nema nikakve veze s Veležovim povratkom na svoj stadion.
Osim povratka pod Bijeli brijeg, za potpunu zadovoljštinu svih koji vole Velež nedostaje još nešto. Glas onih koji su sada, uvjetno kazano, s "druge strane". Njihov glas za povratak Veleža pod Bijeli brijeg značio bi puno, možda i više nego sva politička sijela zajedno. Zato bi bilo lijepo da progovore. Zbog Veleža i Mostara.

Piše: Elvir HUREMOVIĆ
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Spahic posted the link, but I'll post the whole thing,Great article btw

1974-75 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Spartak Moscow 2:0 1:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Rapid Wien 1:0 1:1
3.RD Velez Mostar-Derby County 4:1 1:3

1987-88 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Sion 5:0 0:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Borussia Dortmund 2:1 0:2

1988-89 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-APOEL 1:0 5:2
2.RDVelez Mostar-Belenenses0:0 0:0(4:3 pk's)

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E dzaba progovoram vec 3 godine ovdje komsija.

Velez je za mnoge nas PRAVE Mostarce prestao postojati 1992. Da smo osnovali klub "Velez" kad smo obranili Mostar or agresije, budi siguran da biu oni "sa druge strane" napravili klub sa drugim imenom. A posto smo vratili Zrinjskog, sam nosite ime bivseg Mostarskog prvoligasa, a veze nemate s njim.


And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
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Sorry for off topic but...

What really happend with Velez when the war broke out and why did most of the BiH Croats decide to revive and support Zrinjski, I can understand that people were thinking in a different way during war but for me it seems that he BiH Croats just "gave" Velez to the Bosniak supporters?

Please try to be neutral so we can avoid flaming
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post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old May 15th, 2006, 23:31 Thread Starter
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@Ero: whatever man you are entitled to your own opinions about Velez just like Im entitled to my own about Zrinjski being a nationalistic club that was "shut down" for what 50yrs or something like that and have just recently celebrated a bogus 100 yr existance,but hey these are just opinions.NO SIKIRIKI

1974-75 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Spartak Moscow 2:0 1:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Rapid Wien 1:0 1:1
3.RD Velez Mostar-Derby County 4:1 1:3

1987-88 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Sion 5:0 0:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Borussia Dortmund 2:1 0:2

1988-89 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-APOEL 1:0 5:2
2.RDVelez Mostar-Belenenses0:0 0:0(4:3 pk's)

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this is a discussion about Velez's promotion and not an opportunity to dump on them

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Congrats guys!

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when you're wasted all the time.
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post #15 of 18 (permalink) Old May 16th, 2006, 09:16
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The article started by dumping on us, based on false information, and I know you all know me as the quiet one...

What happened was that Velez was dismantled in 1992 because it was a communist club all of whose members HAD to be in the partija in order to have a function. Players also.

When the aggression on BiH started, the HVO defended Mostar in the Lipanjske Zore successfully and by 1993 and Velez, as a symbol of the aggressor, was not reinstated, nobody had football on their mind understandably.

Zrinjski was soon reinstated as Mostar's oldest club, one without communist political affiliations formed in 1905 when the prefix HNK, or HSK was common place in 80% Croatian Mostar.

Soon after the Croatian-Muslim conflict, the idea to reinstate Velez in the eastern part of the city was born, and materialised soon after because muslims no longer identified themselves with Zrinjski.

We don't consider that club the same one as pre-1992.

That is our opinion, and the aforementioned are facts.


And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
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Ero...you quiet, like me saying I never insult people

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post #17 of 18 (permalink) Old May 16th, 2006, 15:20 Thread Starter
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Welll to you Velez might have been the symbol of aggression just like Zrinjski was/is the symbol of aggression to me, they have that sahovnica on their emblem,the same one that HVO soldiers were wearing when they kicked me and my family and other muslim and serb families throughout Mostar,and that is a fact

1974-75 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Spartak Moscow 2:0 1:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Rapid Wien 1:0 1:1
3.RD Velez Mostar-Derby County 4:1 1:3

1987-88 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-Sion 5:0 0:3
2.RD Velez Mostar-Borussia Dortmund 2:1 0:2

1988-89 UEFA CUP
1.RD Velez Mostar-APOEL 1:0 5:2
2.RDVelez Mostar-Belenenses0:0 0:0(4:3 pk's)

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i'm closing this down for a couple of days
the direction of this discussion needs to change

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