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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old September 11th, 2005, 01:11 Thread Starter
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3rd pot for Euro 2008 Qualification very possible

test Update: Thu Sep 8 2005
Rank Country Played Points Coef.
Host Switzerland 16 31 1.937
Host Austria 16 21 1.312

Pot 1
1. Greece 18 36 2.000 [automatically in pot 1 as reigning champions]
2. Netherlands 18 47 2.611
3. Czech Republic 18 46 2.555
4. France 16 40 2.500
5. England 16 39 2.437
6. Portugal 10 24 2.400
7. Sweden 16 38 2.375

Pot 2
8. Croatia 16 36 2.250
9. Germany 8 18 2.250
10. Poland 17 37 2.176
11. Italy 16 34 2.125
12. Turkey 19 39 2.052
13. Spain 16 31 1.937
14. Romania 19 36 1.894

Pot 3
15. Russia 18 33 1.833
16. Ukraine 19 34 1.789
17. Serbia-Montenegro 16 28 1.750
18. Bulgaria 16 28 1.750
19. Denmark 18 31 1.722
20. Belgium 16 27 1.687
21. Latvia 19 31 1.631

Pot 4
22. Bosnia-Herzegovina 16 26 1.625
23. Norway 16 26 1.625
24. Slovenia 16 26 1.625
25. Slovakia 18 29 1.611
26. Hungary 16 24 1.500
27. Ireland 16 24 1.500
28. Scotland 16 24 1.500

Pot 5
29. Finland 18 26 1.444
30. Israel 17 24 1.411
31. Estonia 18 22 1.222
32. Lithuania 16 19 1.187
33. Albania 18 20 1.111
34. Iceland 17 17 1.000
35. Wales 16 15 0.937

Pot 6
36. Georgia 18 16 0.888
37. Northern Ireland 16 12 0.750
38. Cyprus 16 12 0.750
39. FYR Macedonia 19 14 0.736
40. Moldova 16 11 0.687
41. Belarus 16 10 0.625
42. Armenia 19 11 0.578

Pot 7
43. Liechtenstein 19 9 0.473
44. Azerbaijan 17 7 0.411
45. Andorra 19 5 0.263
46. Malta 17 3 0.176
47. Faroe Islands 17 2 0.117
48. Luxembourg 18 0 0.000
49. Kazakhstan 10 0 0.000

Pot 8
50. San Marino 16 0 0.000

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2 wins should do it..heh
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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old September 11th, 2005, 09:48
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god knows how they count these things, i tried to learn FIFA ranking system but no way, it's too complicated
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post #3 of 36 (permalink) Old September 11th, 2005, 10:03
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So Group1 would be like this

Greece
Croatia
Russia
BiH
Finland
Georgia
Liechtenstein
San Marino

????????
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post #4 of 36 (permalink) Old September 11th, 2005, 10:25
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So Group1 would be like this

Greece
Croatia
Russia
BiH
Finland
Georgia
Liechtenstein
San Marino

????????
If we move to 3rd pot before the draws then we could get "easier" group

BiH in stead of Russia for example:

Greece
Croatia
BiH
Ireland
Finland
Georgia
Liechtenstein
San Marino
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post #5 of 36 (permalink) Old September 14th, 2005, 22:20
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Latvia is last in pot 3 and I believe they have one game left at Portugal which they should lose. So that loss an our wins vs San Marino and Serbia should put us in pot 3. By the way our new fifa ranking is 67, which is 11 places bettr than our last ranking.

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Do they count frendlies in aswell when they are making that list?
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I think they do, but friendlies give you les points.


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friendlies are counted in the FIFA rankings but not in world cup seeding

what a jump in the FIFA rankings ey? pitty i hate those bsaterds and don't like their ranking system

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post #9 of 36 (permalink) Old September 15th, 2005, 14:32
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Oh ok, since NT will probebly play a friendly after the qualifiers aswell


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post #10 of 36 (permalink) Old September 15th, 2005, 17:17
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I think that this list is calculated using a combination of the FIFA rankings (which include all official matches, including friendlies) and a country's results over the last 2 qualifying cycles, with the latter having a far greater impact on the coefficient than the FIFA ranking.
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No, the FIFA rankings are not involved.

Seeded teams

The qualifying groups will be formed with seeded teams by the UEFA administration. The reigning European champions will always be seeded. The other associations will be classified on the basis of results achieved in the qualifying competition of the 2006 FIFA World Cup, as well as their results in the qualifying competition of the 2002/04 UEFA European Football Championship.

Rankings

The total number of points obtained in the qualifying competitions of both of the aforementioned competitions will then be divided by the number of matches played. The resulting quotient is used to determine the rankings. In the case of an association that qualified automatically for the final tournaments of the competitions in question, the coefficient is calculated on the basis of its results in its most recent qualifying competition.

Group composition
The composition of the groups will be decided by means of a draw after completion of the current World Cup qualifying competition.
If two or more associations have the same coefficient, the following criteria will be applied:
a) coefficient from the matches played in its most recent qualifying competition,
b) average goal difference,
c) average number of goals scored,
d) average number of away goals scored,
e) drawing of lots.

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I think we are in 3rd pot now with the same points as Norweigans, could someone check it up?
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Yes

15 Russia 1,895
16 Switzerland 1,882
17 Serbia-Montenegro 1,824
18 Bulgaria 1,824
19 Denmark 1,789
20 Ukraine 1,750
21 Bosnia-Herzegovina 1,706

Pot 4:
22 Norway 1,706
23 Slovakia 1,684
24 Latvia 1,632
25 Republic of Ireland 1,588
26 Belgium 1,588
27 Slovenia 1,529
28 Israel 1,500
29 Hungary 1,412

http://europeancups.altervista.org/r...nts%202006.htm

Norway play Belarus away. That can be tricky, but they may win. We have to win either way.
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oh shit, even more reasosns to win
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Another guy found this....

UEFA change Euro 2008 qualification

Standings after October 8th:

Pot 1:

Greece (TH) 1,894736842
Netherlands 2,631578947
England 2,470588235
Portugal 2,454545455
Czech Republic 2,421052632
France 2,411764706
Croatia 2,294117647

Pot 2:

Germany 2,25
Sweden 2,235294118
Poland 2,176470588
Italy 2,176470588
Turkey 2,052631579
Spain 2
Romania 1,95

Pot 3:

Russia 1,894736842
Serbia&Montenegro 1,823529412
Bulgaria 1,823529412
Denmark 1,789473684
Ukraine 1,75
Bosnia Herzegovina 1,705882353
Norway 1,705882353

Pot 4:

Slovakia 1,684210526
Latvia 1,631578947
Ireland 1,588235294
Belgium 1,588235294
Slovenia 1,529411765
Israel 1,5
Hungary 1,411764706

Pot 5:

Scotland 1,411764706
Finland 1,368421053
Estonia 1,157894737
Lithuania 1,117647059
Albania 1,105263158
Wales 1,058823529
Iceland 1

Pot 6:

Georgia 0,894736842
Belarus 0,764705882
Macedonia 0,736842105
Northern Ireland 0,705882353
Cyprus 0,705882353
Moldova 0,647058824
Armenia 0,578947368

Pot 7:

Liechtenstein 0,45
Azerbaijan 0,411764706
Andorra 0,263157895
Malta 0,176470588
Faroe Islands 0,111111111
Kazakhstan 0,090909091
Luxembourg 0
San Marino 0
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so we're already in the 3rd pot fot the European Qualifiers
this is the group i want

Greece (clearly the crappiest in pot 1, highly overrated)
Poland (we need at least 1 decent opponent)
BiH
Belgium (revenge)
Albania (nice and close)
Macedonia (nice and close and a cake walk)
San Marino (we owe them about 10 goals need to set the record straight)

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so Macedonia (nice and close and a cake walk)
We'd love to beat you again.
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post #20 of 36 (permalink) Old October 11th, 2005, 19:09
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Macedonia (nice and close and a cake walk)
hehe very funny
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