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post #1 of 53 (permalink) Old June 26th, 2004, 02:27 Thread Starter
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Uefa Cup 04/05

The draw is finally out, our 2 representatives were very lucky and got relatively easy opponents, hopefully they will capitalise on this rare luck of the draw and get through.

FK Sileks (MKD) v NK Maribor (SLO)
NK Primorje (SLO) v Marsaxlokk FC (MLT)*
NK Željeznicar (BHZ) v S.S. Pennarossa (SMR)*
KS Dinamo Tirana (ALB) v FC Otelul Galati (ROM)*
FK Modrica (BHZ) v FC Santa Coloma (AND)
AC Omonia (CYP) v FK Sloga Jugomagnat (MKD)
FK Partizani (ALB) v Birkirkara FC (MLT)
FC Illychivets Mariupil (UKR) v FC Banants (ARM)
FK Shamkir (AZE) v FC Tbilisi (GEO)*
FC BATE Borisov (BLR) v FC Dinamo Tbilisi (GEO)
FC Shirak (ARM) v FC Tiraspol (MOL)
FC Nistru Otaci (MOL) v FC Shakhtyor Soligorsk (BLR)
FC MIKA (ARM) v Budapest Honvéd FC (HUN)**
FK Dukla Banská Bystrica (SVK) v FK Karabakh (AZE)
FC Levadia Tallinn (EST) v Bohemian FC (IRL)***
Haverfordwest County AFC (WAL) v FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL)
Östers IF (SWE) v Total Network Solutions FC (WAL)
Portadown FC (NIR) v FK Žalgiris Vilnius (LIT)
B68 Toftir (FAR) v FK Ventspils (LAT)
FC Haka (FIN) v FC Etzella Ettelbrück (LUX)*
FK Ekranas (LIT) v F91 Dudelange (LUX)
FC Vaduz (LIE) v Longford Town FC (IRL)
B36 Tórshavn (FAR) v FHK Liepajas Metalurgs (LAT)
AC Allianssi (FIN) v Glentoran FC (NIR)
ÍA Akranes (ISL) v FC TVMK Tallinn (EST)

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I think those were the easiest posssible opponnents...

You'll be seeing some goals...around eight or ten I'd say
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I certainly hope so. Improve the goal difference in Europe i say!!!!

BiH clubs have been extremely lucky Modrica and Zeljo got 2 of the easiest possible teams in the pot and Siroki drew the second easiest in their draw, hopefully a good sign....

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Well, just don't be surprised if one of the matches has a "weird" result...a few years back Partizan played Santa Coloma and only won 1:0 away...and then destroyed them something like 9:1 in the return leg...I wondered how that happened...and then someone told me that the odds against a 1:0 victory offered by William Hill that day were very, very, high...
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same thing kind of happened to Hajduk Split. They played a club from Faroe Islands and they only won 2-0 at home but they ended up winning 9-0 away. All I remember Pletikosa scored 3 goals in thos two games! haha
Back to topic..I agree that the two teams lucked out on the draw because all you have to look at is the Macedonian sides, they got tough draws.
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same thing kind of happened to Hajduk Split. They played a club from Faroe Islands and they only won 2-0 at home but they ended up winning 9-0 away. All I remember Pletikosa scored 3 goals in thos two games! haha
Back to topic..I agree that the two teams lucked out on the draw because all you have to look at is the Macedonian sides, they got tough draws.
Hadjuk played against GÍ Gřta, not that it really matters.

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OSLOBODJENJE

Plisek zahtijeva agresivniju igru

Nogometaski Zeljeznicara zarsili su i drugu fazu priprema pred odlazak u San Marino. Plavi su u Fojnici odigrali tri meca u kojima su ubiljezili dvije pobjede (Buducnost i Modrica), te jedan remi protiv Pbede (3-3).

Strucni stab izuzetno je zadovoljan zalaganjem igraca, a prema rijecima pomocnika Ismeta Stilica, ono sto ih najvise raduje je cinjenica da nema trenutno povrijedjenih igraca, a napokon je zaigrao i Almir Gredic, koji je bio jedini igrac koji se ustvari zalio na bolove.
U toku priprema u Fojnici na probi su se pjavila dvojica novih igraca: Srdjan Markovic, pristigao iz Marsonije, te Hazim Djokovic, koji je nosio dres Pjacence, te Tuza.

"Zadovoljan sam kavalitetom kojeg su pokazali Markovic i Djokovic i oni ce ostati i dalje na Grbavici. Racunam na njih", kazao je Plisek, koji, za razliku od prije nekoliko dana, sada vec odlicno razgovara na bosanskom jeziku.

"U Fojnici smo imali izvanredne uslove za rad. Svi igraci su na treninzima i utakmicama dali sto posto. Istina, igraci su malo umorni, jer je rad bio dosta intenzivan, ali su svi pruzili svoj maksimum", kazao je Plisek, koji je u toku priprema promijenio formaciju u kojoj je Zeljeznicar nastupao proteklih sezona. Naime, umjseto dosadasje 4-4-2, Plisek vise preferira 4-2-3-1.

"Od igraca Zeljeznicara trazim agresivniji pristup igri,. Fudbalska filozofija Zeljeznicara je brz i dobar nogomet, a da bi se sto vise priblizili Evropi moramo igrati agresivnije i brze. Zeljeznicar posjeduje takav igracki kadar da moze tako igrati i igraci su odlicno prihvatili novi sistem igre", rijeci su Pliseka koji na pitanje da li vec zna ekipu koja ce se suprotstaviti Penarosi kaze:

"Do tog susreta ima jos sedam dana. Kostur ekipe je vec poznat".

Plisek protiv Penarose ne racuna na Admira Kajtaza koji se nalazi u Rusiji...

"Kajtaz se ne nalazi u Sarajevu i trenutno ne razmisljam o njemu. Interesuju me igraci koji se nalaze na treniznima i skojima cemo nastupiti protiv Penarose", rekao nam je Plisek, koji je pogledao kasetu momcadi iz San Marina.


Kajtaz u Kuban Krasnodaru

Admir Kajtaz, saznali smo, trenutno se nalazi na dogovorima u Rusiji oko prelaska u prvoligaski klub Kuban Krasnorad.
Prema rijecima menadjera Rase Bebica konkretna situacija oko prelaska lijevog bocnog igraca Zeljeznicara u ovaj ruski klub trebala bi biti poznata u narednih nekoliko dana.
Kuban se trenutno nalazi na posljednjem mjestu u ruskom prventsvu.

Poceli radovi na juznoj tribini

U FK Zeljeznicar ne prestaju sa radovima na obanvljanju Grbavice ni nakon dobijanja licence za takmicenje u Evropi. Trenutno se na Grbavici izvode radovi na juznoj tribini gdje se postavlja novi beton, na kojeg ce pak doci stolice.
Takodjer, sa Grbavice su najavili da se pripremaju za izgradnju istocne tribine stadiona Grbavice, dok su radovi na osposobljavanju reflektora vec odavno u toku.

Preko Splita i Ankone do San Marina

Nogometasi Zeljeznicara u utorak ce krenuti autobusom za Split, gdje ce presjesti na brzi trajekt do Ankone, odakle ce putovati za San Marino. Utakmica protiv Penarose, podsjetimo, igra se 15.jula.

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ŽELJEZNIČAR BEZ KALKULACIJA U SAN MARINU

Češki stručnjak na klupi tima sa "Grbavice" najavljuje kako njegov tim neće kalkulisati u San Marinu, u prvoj utakmici pretkola Kupa UEFA protiv Penarose.

"Gledali smo kasete našeg protivnika, izanalizirali smo njihovu igru i mislim da ne bismo trebali imati problema oko plasmana u dalji tok takmičenja. Nastojaćemo da posao završimo u prvoj utakmici u San Marinu, i nadam se da ćemo se u Sarajevo vratiti uzdignute glave", ističe Plišek.
I fudbaleri Željezničara svjesni su činjenice favorita, ali isto tako ističu da bi ta uloga mogla biti otežavajuća okolnost.

Željezničar je generalnu probu pred polazak u San Marino imao na "Grbavici", gdje je pred 2.000 gledalaca minimalnim rezultatom (1:0) savladao Travnik. Tako su "plavi" u četiri kontrolne utakmice ostvarili i treću pobjedu identičnim rezultatom, a podsjetimo da su remizirali samo sa makedonskom Pobedom (3:3).

"Zadovoljan sam pripremnim periodom. Ostvarili smo tri pobjede u kojima nismo primili pogodak, tako da je uočljiv napredak nakon remija protiv Pobede. Visoke temperature veliki su problem fudbalerima koji zbog toga ne mogu pokazati vrijednosti. Ipak, gledajući u globalu svi fudbaleri su dali maksimum i spremni će dočekati predstojeća iskušenja", kaže Jirži Plišek, trener FK Željezničar.

"Nekada je bolje biti autsajder, jer svaki povoljan rezultat javnost prihvati sa odluševljenjem. Ovako, činjenicu da smo favoriti moramo dokazati na terenu. Penarosu ne smijemo potcijeniti, jer bi nam se u tom slučaju moglo "obiti o glavu". Da se utakmice igraju na papiru, mi bismo sada već bili u drugom pretkolu. U ime saigraču mogu obećati da ćemo na terenu dati sve od sebe i nadamo se povoljnom rezultatu. Nezahvalno je prognozirati ishod meča. Lopta je okrugla i svašta se može desiti", kaže Edis Mulalić, pouzdani stoper tima sa "Grbavice", koji je odbio konkretnu ponudu iz Turske, jer kako kaže, ne želi klub ostaviti na cjedilu.
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Zeljeznicar se sprema za mec sa Penarosom

Jirzi Plisek zadovoljan pobjedama, ali ne i igrom

Zeljeznicar u pripremnom periodu odigrao cetiri prijateljska susreta u kojima je ubiljezio tri pobjede (sva tri puta 1-0), te jedan remi (3-3)

Zeljeznicar je prijateljskom utakmicom protiv Travnika zaokruzio seriju pripremnih utakmica prije duela protiv Penarose u okviru prvog pretkola Kupa UEFA. Podsjetimo, duel sa ekipom iz San Marina je na programu 15.jula, a mec ce se igrati u 20.45.

Zeljeznicar ce u San Marino krenuti vec sutra ujutro, a dolazak u ovaj grad-drzavu se ocekuje u vecernjim satima.

Plavi u susretu protiv Travnika, kojeg su dobili golom Senada Zerica iz seste minute, nisu ostavili dojam ekipe koja je pronasla formu, sto je i razumljivo obzirom da su igraci umorni od priprema. Novi trener Jirzi Plisek u nekoliko ranijih razgovora najavio je da ce Zeljeznicar mijenjati sistem igre, a da je to ucinio nije se vidjelo protiv Travnicana. Naprotiv, tim sa Grbavice igrao je ponovo u formaciji 4-4-2. Napadacki red cinili su Zeric i Hadzic, dok su u vezi ordinirali Karic, novajlija Djokovic, Gredic i Muharemovic, koji je, stekao se dojam, bio previse udaljen od gola protivnika.

"Jos uvijek uigravamo razlicite varijante. Imamo dvije opcije: igru po sistemu 4-4-2 i po novom gdje bi u fazi napada imali cak petoricu igraca, a isto toliko i u fazi odbrane", kaze Plisek, koji na pitanje da li je zadovoljan igrom njegovih igraca u susretu protiv Travnika odgovara:

"Zadovoljan sam pobjedom i cinjenicom da vec trecu utakmicu nismo primili pogodak. To me izuzetno raduje, ali nisam zadovoljan nekim detaljima u igri i do utakmice protiv Penarose radit cemo na tome da te minimalne pogreske svedemo na minimum. Za psihu igraca je dobro da pobjedjujemo u kontinuitetu", rijeci su Pliseka, koji je tokom utakmice protiv Travnika nekoliko puta ustajao sa klupe zustro objasnjavajuci igracima sta zeli od njih.
Najvise puta do klupe Plisek je zvao Senada Zerica, te Hazima Djokovica, koji je, kao i Srdjan Markovic, ostavio solidan dojam.

Plisek je za susret protiv Travnicana skinuo 20 igraca a ipak tek ih je 16 dobilo priliku. Ono sto je upalo u oci je status najiskusnijeg u Zelji; Harisa Alihodzica, koji je zajedno sa Vuksanovicem, Juricem i Mulaosmanovicem poslat na zagrijavanje, ali nije usao u igru(!?).

"Istina, skinuo sam 20 igraca, a to koga cu uvesti zavisilo je od situacije na terenu. Nisam zelio da se neko povrijedi", kazao je Plisek, koji je ipak morao mijenjati Alena Kurta upravo zbog povrede. Umjesto njega usao je Senad Sarajkic i ukoliko se Kurt ne oporavi ovaj mladi nogometas vjerovatno ce dobiti priliku u San Marinu, obzirom da je on stao jedina opcija na lijevom boku, nakon odlaska Kajtaza u Rusiju, za kojeg ljudi iz Zeljeznicara jos nisu dobili povratnu informaciju.


Djokovic potpisao na dvije godine

Hazim Djokovic, novi je nogometas Zeljeznicara. Ovaj igrac jucer, kao sto je i najavljeno, potpisao dvogodisnji ugovor sa plavima.
Prije njega to je ucinio i Srdjan Markovic, koji je prije dvije godine vec bio na probi u Zeljeznicaru, ali tada nije zadovoljio ukuse Amara Osima.
Oba pomenuta igraca ce vec danas biti prijavljena za Kup UEFA i u utorak ujutro putovat ce sa ostatkom ekipe u San Marino. Markovic je do dolaska u Zeljeznicar igrao u Marsoniji, dok Djokovic dolazi iz Tuza.
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BTW Jiri Plisek is of course the Czech trainer we got..I really think that was a great move, this guy could really improve Zeljo and our whole football.

The first leg is Thursday.

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Getting Plisek in was a good move, in the sense that it puts a completely outside perspective on the club, he is not a manager that will be personally enclined to pick certain players because of their connections but on their merrit. However i don't think it he is so brilliant that warrants us saying he will improve our 'whole' football. He is very young and inexperienced to be praised as much but non the less he has lots of potential. Good luck to him, i hope he does miracles for Zeljo, after all that's the only thing that counts.
Like i said hopefully he will be able to assert a positive way of thinking on Zeljo's players as well as those in charge who up until recently have only been thinking about their future and their dental plans.

I predict a 4:0 score away and 5:0 at home.

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FT SS Pennarossa [1 - 5] Zeljeznicar Sarajevo
1' [0 - 1] Gredic
5' [0 - 2] Rascic
10' [0 - 3] Rascic
32' [0 - 4] Karic
79' [0 - 5] Vrsajevic
85' [1 - 5]

The game just ended. Overall pretty much what we expected. The 5 goals away gurantee that Zeljo will move on to the next round. Abit dissapointed we did give up a goal late, hopefully it was a huge fluke, we cant afford to make major mistakes against better opposition.

FT Santa Coloma [0 - 1] FK Modrica
54' [0 - 1] Vasic

Congrats to Modrica too on the away win. It looks like they will move on to the next round as well.
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Ooh i was close, at least i got the margin right.

I have to say that i think Modrica's result is a bit dissapointing but non the less a win is a win and when it's away it's even sweeter.

Zeljo will score (at least) another 5 at home, i guarantee!

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Thursday, 15 July 2004

By Paolo Menicucci at the Stadio Olimpico


Denis Karic was on target this evening

Bosnia-Herzegovnian side NK Željeznicar moved to within touching distance of the UEFA Cup second qualifying round after a comfortable victory in Serravalle against tournament debutants S.S. Pennarossa.

Early goal
Željeznicar dominated the champions of San Marino from the start and were three up in ten minutes. They took the lead after just a few seconds when right winger Almir Gredic converted a low cross by left-back Alen Kurt with a precise left-foot shot.

Lead increases
After five minutes Željeznicar staged a carbon-copy of the first goal. Inspirational attacking midfield player Dželaludin Muharemovic dribbled past Pennarossa right-back Matteo Zavoli on the left flank and found Admir Rašcic, who doubled the lead.

Scoring continues
Rašcic scored again for the visitors on the ten-minute mark with a superb shot from just outside the penalty box after a nice combination between Muharemovic and Emir Hadžic. Pennarossa were looking to attack, but Željeznicar kept control of the game and added the fourth goal in the 31st minute when Denis Karic shot in from the edge of the box.

Vrsajevic adds fifth
Having scored twice, Rašcic was withdrawn at the break and Pennarossa had some relief. Home goalkeeper Gabriele Frisoni did well to save on the hour when a low cross by substitute Avdija Vrsajevic was deflected towards his own goal by Marco Tomassoni. But, nine minutes from the end, Vrsajevic did claim a goal, turning in a cross from the always-dangerous Muharemovic.

Late consolation
Moroccan striker Mohammed Zaboul pulled one back two minutes from time, but his side need an extraordinary result in Sarajevo on 29 July to turn the tie.
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Thursday, 15 July 2004

By Lucy Turner at the Estadi Comunal


Modrica were celebrating tonight

Bosnia-Herzegovnian cup holders FK Modrica left Andorra with a precious lead after the first leg of their UEFA Cup first qualifying round tie with FC Santa Coloma.

Early caution
Andorran champions, and the reigning domestic cup and Super Cup holders, Santa Coloma began in cautious fashion despite their usual attacking reputation. Modrica had few chances in the first half but in the last ten minutes before the break gave Santa Coloma goalkeeper Ricardo Fernández a few tests.

Railic goes close
Aleksandar Railic tried an opportunist shot from near the centre circle on 42 minutes to to the delight of the small band of travelling supporters but the ball went just over. Zoran Novakovic then forced Fernández to save as the period ended.

Vasic goal
Buoyed by this late surge, Modrica came out for the second half full of confidence. Gvozden Zelincevic headed on to the bar from a corner and Dario Puric shot over as the pressure increased, and on 55 minutes, Dorde Savic's cross deflected into the path of Sreten Vasic, who made no mistake.

Late chance
With a goal in the bag for the return in Bosnia-Herzegovina on 29 July, Modrica were happy to defend their lead. In the final minutes Santa Coloma had a chance to level when Antonio Sivera sent a free-kick on to the crossbar, but the Andorran champions will have to pull back the deficit in a fortnight's time.
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Not 100% sure, but I believe these are the opponents Zeljo could draw for the next round:

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Seeded teams coef.
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Dinamo Zagreb Cro 25.734
Gençlerbirligi Tur 23.656
Partizan Belgrade Srb 18.654
Steaua Bucuresti Rom 17.880
NK Maribor * Slo 7.024
Bnei Sakhnin Isr 7.012
Maccabi Petah-Tikva Isr 7.012
NK Rijeka Cro 6.734
Really tough..unless we draw Rijeka, who we have a shot against, the rest are really difficult.
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I don't think that all these teams are astronomically better than us, i think we have a chance against all of them but i would definately prefer one of the 2 israely teams...

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FT Zeljeznicar Sarajevo [4 - 0] SS Pennarossa
22' [1 - 0] Kajtez
33' [2 - 0] Muharemovic
41' [3 - 0] Rasic
58' [4 - 0] Rasic

Zeljo win 9-1 on aggregate. The real work starts in the 2nd round. Congrats to them on the 1st round victory!

FT FK Modrica [3 - 0] Santa Coloma
36' [1 - 0] Ljubicic
66' [2 - 0] Novakovic
89' [3 - 0] Pavic

Congrats to Modrica. They win 4-0 on aggregate and are going to Round 2 as well.
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The draw is over, our clubs drew:

ZELJEZNICAR (BIH) vs LITEX (BUL)

LEVSKI (BUL) vs MODRICA (BIH)

When it comes to Zeljo. We could have gotten a better draw, but we could have also got much worse. This is basically a middle team in terms of difficulty. We have a pretty good chance of getting through. (like we did against Lillestrom)

Modrica got a very tough draw, and it would be extremley surprising if they got through.

If we get past this round, we are then officially in the Uefa Cup!

Here is more info about Zeljo's opponent:


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Pretkolo:

FC Lovech (Bul) - Zimbru Chisinau (Mol): 0-0 0-2


Sezona 2002/2003


Kup UEFA

Pretkolo:

FC Lovech (Bul) - Atlantas Klaipeda (Lit): 5-0 3-1

1. kolo:

FC Lovech (Bul) - Panathinaikos (Gre): 0-1 1-2



Sezona 2001/2002


Kup UEFA

Pretkolo:

Longford Town (Irl) - FC Lovech (Bul): 1-1 0-2

1. kolo:

Inter Bratislava (Svk) - FC Lovech (Bul): 1-0 0-3

2. kolo:

Union Berlin (Ger) - FC Lovech (Bul): 0-2 0-0

3. kolo:

AEK Athens (Gre) - FC Lovech (Bul): 3-2 1-1



Sezona 2000/2001

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Sezona 1999/2000


Liga prvaka

1. pretkolo:

FC Lovech Bul Glentoran Nir 3-0 3-0

2. pretkolo:

FC Lovech (Bul) - Widzew Lódz (Pol): 4-1 1-4 , Pen. 2 - 3
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post #20 of 53 (permalink) Old July 31st, 2004, 12:43 Thread Starter
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I think Zeljo was lucky, the draw could have been much worse. It is quite possible to pass these guys, i am so glad we didn't get Partizan or Dinamo.... It's too early for us to go out, i wouldn't mind playing them in the next round though..

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