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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old June 3rd, 2003, 22:30 Thread Starter
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Hamdija Abdic, President NK Jedinstvo believes...

that there was fixing of games by certain teams, etc. Here are his comments on some of the questions asked:



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Hamdija Abdic - Tigar predsjednik NK Jedinstvo i clan izvrsnog odbora NS BiH, nezadovoljan je raspletom u Premier ligi BiH. Jedinstvo je ispalo iz Premier lige i Abdic najavljuje radikalne poteze:
"Trazit cemo vandrednu skupstinu, a potom prosirenje lige. I ljudi iz Kozare podrzat ce nas prijedlog".
> Zasto?
"Zato sto je liga neregularna. To svi znaju samo niko nece da prizna".
> Koja je utakmica neregularna?
"Da je jedna pa nikom nista. Zepce nije zasluzio da ostane u ligi ali su ostali. Imaju Sulju Colakovica koji je predsjednik Takmicarske komisije. Evo, vidite primjer Glasinca i Brotnja. Svi znaju da je ta utakmica namjestena, i niko nista ne poduzima".
> Valjda sto nema dokaza?
Kakvi dokazi. Pa, svi znaju da se stotine hiljada maraka ili eura vrti u bh.nogometu. Toliko su vrijedili bodovi u zavrsnici. Evo i drugi primjer: Brotnjo optuzi igrace Celika. Ljudi iz Brotnja kazu da su dali Brkicu i Sabicu novac, a nikome nista. Pa onda Brotnjo nije zasluzio niti taj jedan bod. Colakovic je i rukama i nogama gurao Zepce. Vidjeli ste sta se njima "sviralo" protiv Slobode. Orasje se spasilo jer su imali jak lobi koji predvodi Iljo Dominikovic i Blaz Zivkovic. Hrvati su sacuvali svoje klubove. Sada na pedeset kilometara u Hercegovini imate cetiri premierligasa, Brotnjo, Zrinjski, Siroki i Posusje. Svi skupa neka se ne uvrijede nemaju vise gledatelja nego Jedinstvo. A, mi ispadamo.
> Mnogima kao da je dosadilo igrati u Bihacu?
Godinama slusam price da je tesko igrati u Bihacu. Skoro nemoguce pobijediti. Vidite, malo ko je sve odnosio bodove pa cete shvatiti da su kod nas gosti igrali kao na svom terenu. Bovode su odnosili ko je htio. Sudije su stitile gosta, a ne nas.
> Zamjera Vam se da ste "prodali" utakmicu Leotaru?
Ma to su najvece gluposti. Ne znam ko to tvrdi. pa mi smo ispali zbog tog poraza. Kako bi smo pustili kada su nama trebali bodovi. Jedinstavno, mi smo izgubili jer je Leotar imao bolju logostiku, kao i neki klubovi koji su se spasili, a nemaju ni tradiciju, ni navijace, nista bolje od Jedinstva.> Da li Vam je neko otvoreno nudio ili trazi novac?
Jeste.
> Ko, klub, sudija, delegat?
Znam imena i prezimena pojedinaca iz sudijske organizacije, znam delegate koji rade za pojedine klubove. Zasad, o tome necu nista javno, dok ne prodje moj prijedlog. Svi ce se prepoznati. NS BiH je naredu, da imaju imalo morala neke bi se utakmic ponavljale a Jedinstvo ostalo.


Sta kazete na ovo?

I cant say that this never crossed my mind, because it did. Truthfully I thought the Serbian teams might help each other out in certain cases so they finish at the top since it is the 1st season for all of them. Its possible it could be happening all around, or obviously it may not be happening at all.


What do you think ?
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old June 4th, 2003, 02:49
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The sad bitching of a loser.

The games are irregular, and surely there has been corruption on a grand scale. But if Jedinstvo had stayed in the league, Mr. Abdic would not say a word, guaranteed.

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Sada na pedeset kilometara u Hercegovini imate cetiri premierligasa, Brotnjo, Zrinjski, Siroki i Posusje. Svi skupa neka se ne uvrijede nemaju vise gledatelja nego Jedinstvo. A, mi ispadamo.
A blatant lie, and how dare he?


Here's the attendances for the past season.

1 Celik 105.500 5.552 po utakmici
2 Zeljeznicar 90.500 4.763
3 Sarajevo 71.000 3.736
4 Leotar 52.700 2.773
5 Sloboda 47.000 2.473
6 Zepce 42.700 2.247
7 ZRINJSKI 40.100 2.227
8 Siroki Brijeg 38.500 2.094
9 Borac 37.700 2.026
10 Jedinstvo 34.500 1.815
11 Buducnost 33.600 1.768
12 Orasje 31.800 1.673
13 Rudar 25.400 1.336
14 Kozara 23.300 1.226
15 Velez 21.950 1.155
16 Posusje 18.300 1.076
17 Brotnjo 17.900 942
18 Glasinac 17.400 915
19 Bosna 15.200 800
20 Mladost 7.250 381

Brotnjo+Zrinjski+Siroki+Posusje =6,294 people per game
compared to jedinstvo's 1,815 peple per game. So they triple that of Jedinstvo

To add, both Zrinjski and Siroki had higher attendences ALONE than NK Jedinstvo, stop you bitching you liar.

Using blatant lies in an argument gets you nowhere, this man is an idiot.


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Hrvati su sacuvali svoje klubove.
The man is also a racist. Do you really think its in Croatian interests to keep 4 teams from Hercegovina in instead of making 2 strong ones to compete for the title? This man is an idiot. Period.

All in all, corruption certainly played a part, but Hamdija's version is distorted, full of lies and sick. I hope Jedinstvo enjoys their stay in the 1st League, they'll face forces like Gabela and Dzerzelez.

The rantings of a sore loser, degrading himself in a shameless manner. Get over it Hamdija

FORZA ZRINJSKI MOSTAR !!


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In terms of % of population of a given city when compared to attendence

1.Zovko Žepče 9.83%
2.Široki 7.92%
3.Posušje 6.68%
...
5.Brotnjo 6.40%
....
7.Orašje 5.93%
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9.ZRINJSKI 4.14%
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12.Jedinstvo 2.56%

And Bihac has 71,000 people. They were whipped in terms of attendence by Široki Brijeg 26.500, Žepče 23.000, Posusje 16.500, Citluk 15.000.


Hamdija, hajde bola ne seri svega ti


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When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
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I agree with you here, if they weren't relegated nothing would have been brought up, and I also agree he does make some racist comments that are not really fair because the same thing can be said about the Bosniak teams related to having more teams just for the sake of having more representation.
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it just pisses me off when someone goes public with dumb unsubstantiated claims.


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As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
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Prvenstvo nije regularno i svi prodaju i kupuju utakmice ali noko nista ne govori. Uvijek se bune na kraju oni koji su najlosije poslovali.

Zasto gospodin Tigar ne navede napokon imena i klubove. Kad ce neko to napokon uradit i pohapsit tu gamad sto nam unistise ligu.
Ne navodi ih zato sto i sam zna da su svi umijesani i da nema ljudi koji bi se suprostavili tim neregularnostima.
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Prvenstvo nije regularno i svi prodaju i kupuju utakmice ali noko nista ne govori. Uvijek se bune na kraju oni koji su najlosije poslovali.

Zasto gospodin Tigar ne navede napokon imena i klubove. Kad ce neko to napokon uradit i pohapsit tu gamad sto nam unistise ligu.
Ne navodi ih zato sto i sam zna da su svi umijesani i da nema ljudi koji bi se suprostavili tim neregularnostima.
Ma znam, pa Polufinale kupa je bila cista namjestaljka, delegat NSBIH je ipak izvlacio iako su se javili i ostali dobrovoljci da izvuku loptice. Ma ne, i eto ispade ono sto smo svi znali, Leo-Zrinjski, Zovko-Zeljo.

A prventsvo je placeno, specijalno u zadja 3-4 kola. Nije svaka ekipa kriva, ali ima krivih.


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BiH league is definitely full of corruption, but, boy, it is very interesting to follow...
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is there corruption in the league ? --- Yes

is it a real interesting league to follow? --- Yes

is it a shame to see Jedinstvo out? --- Yes

is what Hamdija is saying justified? --- NO No No

He needs to get over it, i personally like Jedinstvo and am sad to see them relegated but hey grow up, cop it on the cheek and try your best to come back next season. If others are taking part in illegal dealings then if you arn't gonna name them, shut the hll up about it and make sure your team doesn't get cought doing anything of that sort!!! If West Ham in the English premier league was to make accusations such as this, evryone would laugh, but here at the Balkans everything is possible. People blame politics, religion and ethnicity for evreything. GET OVER IT GET A LIFE, that's what happens in sport you win some you lose some, if you're a true sportsman you accept defeat and try your best to eventually redeam yourself so lets agree not to give Hamdija or that dude from Kozara any more mention regarding this matter.

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well said


And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
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