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The News - Macedonian National Teams
Written by Igor Naumovski

Friday, 21 December 2007

Srecko Katanec has decided to accept the offer and continue coaching the Macedonian national team. Katanec will lead Macedonia in World Cup 2010 qualifications.
Srecko Katanec continued in his style and told his decision to the Macedonian Football Federation president Haralampie Hadzi-Risteski by phone, in the last hours of the 3 week ultimatum given to think about the offer.
Besides the other offers he had in the last few weeks including the one from his home country Slovenia, Katanec accepted the offer from Macedonia. Obviously the main reason is the same contract from the last qualifications where he had big freedom and the chance to stay at home in Slovenia and come to Macedonia only on couple of days before the matches.

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I'm not very happy by this turn of events, i wanted Jonuz to get a shot. Katanec had his and did nothing. I pray that the next 2 years will be better under him.

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post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old December 21st, 2007, 20:00
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Does this mean that Nedzipi will not be give chance again?

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exactly that does it mean.

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that also means that Nedzipi will accept the offer from Albania
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post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old December 22nd, 2007, 01:29
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that also means that Nedzipi will accept the offer from Albania
he can't play for albania, he is to old to switch ->FIFA rules.

he only could play for kosovo if they get an own country, because this would be a new country, for this there are other rights.
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I want nedzipi to play
he obviously has the class to play against better players than the macedonian league as we all saw what he did to bolton

a midfield that looks like this
................sumalikoski................
....tasevski......................nedzipi.......
...................pandev...................

would be nice



anyways im happy with srecko staying
gives our team some stability and we will have the same style of play instead of having to change every year because of new coaches

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he can't play for albania, he is to old to switch ->FIFA rules.

he only could play for kosovo if they get an own country, because this would be a new country, for this there are other rights.
to switch? oh no, he wont be switchin bcoz he hasnt played for Macedonia.
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Katanec dosent like players playing in the domestic league and i heard nedzipi might go to Belgium and if he does he might as well get picked for the NT which i hope he does
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I'm glad he stayed, some stability something we never have, it's not like we really had a shot at qualifying for Euro's anyway, we got a bit more of a chance this time around though.
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I'm starting an initiative named "Give Nedzipi a chance!"

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to switch? oh no, he wont be switchin bcoz he hasnt played for Macedonia.
sure he played for macedonia, for example he played last year in the u21-qualifications->official match.

he is now older than 20 years, it's over for him for albania. his only hope for a switch is when kosovo gets a national team, otherwise he must play for macedonia.

what do you think about a bet if you don't believe me?

if nedzipi plays for albania, i will give you 100, if i am right and he doesn't play for albania of today(because it's not possible, i have the official fifa-statutes in english and german) you will give me 25.

it seems clear that nedzipi won't play under katanec because they had to much trouble, so if he really could switch to albania, he would sure do it.
so it would sure happen at the latest in 2008. if he doesn't switch in 2008(if you like i would give you also 2009) you lose, ok?

but i know for sure what will happen:
he will try to switch to albania, FIFA will say no, and in the macedonian media nedzipi will tell that he only wants to play for macedonia
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ne se kladam batka.

tuku Albanija nemase voopsto da praka luge da go gledaat kako igra dokolku nemase pravo da igra za niv.

ama aj ke vidime so ke ispadne, se nadevam deka Katanec ke go pivika.

i potpisi se vo peticijata!!
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ne se kladam batka.

tuku Albanija nemase voopsto da praka luge da go gledaat kako igra dokolku nemase pravo da igra za niv.

ama aj ke vidime so ke ispadne, se nadevam deka Katanec ke go pivika.

i potpisi se vo peticijata!!
vo albanskiot sojus rabotat uste pogolemi amateri nego vo nasiot, tije skoro sekoj mlad albanec koj sivee vo diasporata i ima mnogu talent go gubat, nemosat skoro nieden dobar da go dobijat.

sa faton toski(20, eintracht frankfurt) na primer tek sega isgleda ce pocnat borba, deka albanci koj siveat vo germanija i dosnaa sa sakonot poradi mnogute takvi slucaji vo germanija vo proslo vreme(gi nabrojav gore nekolku od igracite koi se "saebaa" deka sega se preslabi sa da igraat sa germanija a nesmeat vise sa druga drsava da igraat) pravat pritisok vrs albanskiot sojuz da sboruvaat so toski i toj da pobara transfer kaj FIFA pred 17.02.2008(na toj den faton toski ce napolni 21 godina).

toski ima igrano sa germanska u19 pred nekolku godini, meguvremeno imase teski povredi i tek sega pak fati ritmus, bese standarden kaj frankfurt vo proslite 3 utakmice i eden od najdobrite vo tije igri.

snaci kaj nego ce se vidi dali ce napravi transfer ili dali ce se odluci da igra ponatamu samo sa germanija.

sa nedzipi:
toa so albanija povise i e rabota od novinite koi se slabo informirani. i vo germanija do pred nekolku meseci mnogu novini ne go snae toj sako od FIFA iako postoi vise od 2004 godina pa mnogu pati gresuvaa.
meguvremeno recisi ste novini go snaat toj sakon bas poradi slucajot "ashkan dejagah":
on pred 2 meseci imase problemi so germanskiot sojus deka otkasa utakmica sa u21 od germanija protiv israel deka kako roden iranec mosi da dobije problemi ako igra protiv israel(se snae deka go ima embargoto).
no on prvin toa go kasa na los nacin pa svucese mnogu rasisticki i pocnaa ogromni karanici vo germanija, duri najvisoki politicari i sojusot na evreite vo germanija se smesaa vo toj slucaj.

ashkan dejagah togas vo novina kasa deka kako sto isgleda ce napravi transfer sa da igra sa iran a ne vise sa germanija, no tuka bese problemot:
on na 05.07.1986 napolni 21 godina i vise ne smeese da napravi transfer deka imase igrano sa germanskata u21 a bese vise postar od 20 godini.

vo germanija komedija ispadna, site novini pisuvaa kakov idiot e deka sam se saeba, kasa oficijalno deka ce igra sa iran nesnaejki deka ne sme vise da igra sa iran.

na kraj si ja prisna greskata i licno se isvini i se samole da smee i ponatamu da igra sa germanija i posle toa mu oprostija, iako mnogu kritiki sa toa dobi germanskiot sojus.

od togas recisi sekoj noviinar vo germanija go snae toj sakon.

smao stavi go "ashkan dejagah" i "iran" vo google, ce vidis dosta informacii sa toj slucaj. ako imas nekoj sto snae germanski neka ti prevedi:smileani:
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Still I think it's a good decision. In last years there was a lack of coaching continuity in Macedonian NT. The coaches were changed to quickly (Kantlarovski, Santrac, Babunski), so the style and system of playing was changing rapidly. TOO RAPIDLY for building a real team. Now Katanec will have chance to use the experience from ECQ 2008 qualifications.

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I am happy he is staying. It will bring stability to the national team to have the same coach, who is familiar with his players.
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The law to switch national sides is in great depth and Nexhipi can if he wishes to change the national team because he has not reresented Macedonia in the A level. He is 22 now so that makes it more difficult but he can do this by writing a letter to FIFA. I dont know what kind of rules you are looking at but read carefuly. I dont know what you said about Toski but he has turned his paperwork in to the Albanian FA and the procedures are following he has no problem of representing Albania as you will read the Fifa guidelines on the bottom a player who is under 21 and has not represented in the "A" level has the right to excersise is decision to play for another team if he is eligible to play for that country meaning a citizen of that country. I didnt understand it either at first so instead of listening to every1 else i just checked out fifa and found out for myself. Nexhipi will not play for Albania.

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"1. Any person holding the nationality of a country is eligible to play for the representative teams of the Association of his country. The Executive Committee shall decide on the conditions of eligibility for any Player whose nationality entitles him to represent more than one Association.

"2. As a general rule, any Player who has already represented one Association (either in full or in part) in an official competition of any category may not play an international match with another Association team.

"3. If a Player has more than one nationality, or if a Player acquires a new nationality, or if the Player is eligible to play for several Association teams due to his nationality, the following exceptions apply:

"(a) Up to his 21st birthday, a player may only once request changing the Association for which he is eligible to play international matches. A Player may exercise this right to change Associations only if he has not played at “A” international level for his current Association and if, at the time of his first full or partial appearance in an international match in an official competition of any other category, he already had such nationalities. Changing Associations is not permitted during the preliminary competition of a FIFA competition, continental championship or Olympic Tournaments if a player has already been fielded in a match of one of these competitions.

"(b) Any Player who has already acquired eligibility to play for one Association but has another nationality imposed upon him by a government authority, is also entitled to change associations. This provision is not subject to any age limits.

"4. Any Player who wishes to exercise this right to change Associations shall submit a written and substantiated request to the FIFA general secretariat. After submitting the request, the player is no longer qualified to play for his current Association’s team. The Players’ Status Committee shall decide on the request. The committee’s decision may be brought before the Appeal Committee. The Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players contain more detailed provisions.
"5. Any Players who have already had their 21st birthday at the time of implementation of these provisions and who fulfil the requirements in par. 3 (a) are also entitled to submit such a request to change Associations. This entitlement will expire definitively twelve months after implementation of this provision."


It goes in so much detail you dont want to read the whole thing. I followed Valon Behramis whole shananagans and thats where i understand most of the rules. If a player wants to switch a national team has to follow strict guidelines. I hope i have helped people out by understanding at least a little bit of this.

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